Discord Mafia - ne70-chat

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-22 12:00 a.m.

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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-06-22 12:00 a.m.

it starts!

hi

2:00 p.m.

hihi! at work for another hr but will be more checked in a bit o7

okay!

Hello chat

Haii will be busy most of tn

2:14 p.m.

Hanging with friends

got it!

Hi guys

2:19 p.m.

well

To get this game going, let's start off by claiming roles to spot inconsistencies. I am town citizen.

3:17 p.m.

It is an easily claimable role and has no functions other than voting. There are five citizens in this game (2 additional town)

3:18 p.m.

I feel the game will solve itself faster if we know who the 5 citizens are

3:20 p.m.

If we get more than 5 citizen claims, there will be a mafia among us. If not, both mafia s would be in the remaining 4

3:26 p.m.

I am looking forward to the claims. Ping me when claiming so that I can compile that info.

Zenith

I am looking forward to the claims. Ping me when claiming so that I can compile that info.

I am also a town citizen

3:37 p.m.

Thanks for claiming Let's wait for the other 3 too

kk ^_^

3:39 p.m.

Also yw :>

Zenith

To get this game going, let's start off by claiming roles to spot inconsistencies. I am town citizen.

twinsies!!

3:41 p.m.

... is that how you even spell it

Yea lol

Alright noted Thanks for claiming Ace

also Kangel!!! Bless!

Yess

im also a town citizen

Noted. Thanks star.

3:53 p.m.

So we got 4 claims till now

3:53 p.m.

We may end up with more than 5 claims but then we will know where to look into

3 cases 1. Both mafias as citizens 2. Both mafias as "special" town (non-citizen) 3. One on both sides.

Or someone has a pr and is lying about being citizen for the sake of survival and being usful

I encourage not to

3:55 p.m.

It's easy to narrow down the search

3:56 p.m.

Just don't reveal your exact role for the time being

ace! ★

Or someone has a pr and is lying about being citizen for the sake of survival and being usful

I am so not talking about my self rn!!

Yeah it is a real possibility

Zenith

Just don't reveal your exact role for the time being

I'm sure websill be able to track down mafia eithereay.

well

Let's see I am waiting for more activity

3:57 p.m.

We have ample time

we cant really check if we are regular citizens?

We can

3:57 p.m.

It is revealed in private channel

oh

3:57 p.m.

noo

3:57 p.m.

like check others

If someones tracker they can track down of the of the misc ones or one of the odd ones out

sorry i worded that wrong

Yep

im only worth a vote froggiesip

Skill issue

star

im only worth a vote froggiesip

Same here but let's make the most out of it

Imagine not being dv/J. ((Im worth one too.))

Yeah

3:59 p.m.

Let's see what happens from here

welp

I hope both mafias claim citizens. It would be easier to weed them out that way

4:15 p.m.

Prs need not claim.

4:16 p.m.

I want one citizen to not claim too

4:17 p.m.

So we should have 4 votes (which we have) Anyone who wants to counter claim can do so. Doing that won't automatically put you under town's scrutiny.

oh

As for how a person will know they are the only citizens to not claim

4:26 p.m.

I guess there's no way around that A flaw in logic

4:26 p.m.

All citizens should claim

yeah

Zenith

I encourage not to

reading up, never smart to claim pr if u have that role

5:12 p.m.

scum increases their odds of winning exponentially if they murder prs

5:12 p.m.

giving them that info when scum can j easily fake claim town here isnt smart

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

reading up, never smart to claim pr if u have that role

Certainly not. I want covert claims.

5:14 p.m.

None yet but let's see

5:15 p.m.

The ones which can't be searched up

im town citizen btw but legit everyone is gonna be claiming that so it doesnt rly glean us any info

who hasnt claimed?

4 others

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

im town citizen btw but legit everyone is gonna be claiming that so it doesnt rly glean us any info

what im saying

5:16 p.m.

how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen

i think its amatter of fcfs

5:16 p.m.

/j.

we just talk here and try to get reads on ppl thru like talking a lot

5:17 p.m.

and alternatively if someone is avoiding talking we should probs put sme pressure on them

Well I guess let's think on this strategy when we have better reads

yea i j think rn we need to follow along w chat and keep live discussion going

like how do We know ur not mafia trying to scout out who to kill.

Let's consider that as an ice breaker for the time being

ace! ★

like how do We know ur not mafia trying to scout out who to kill.

Certainly possible

5:19 p.m.

Especially since I claimed citizen not a pr

ya but us as town NOT TALKING is even worse for us winning like we cant form reads if convos dont happen LOL

Yep. I want people to talk too.

5:20 p.m.

A few already gave reasons for not being active here.

5:20 p.m.

Doesn't really help their case

so far reading over this chat most things said seem good faith so far but there is rly nothing to go off of currently </3

Yep too early to say anything

5:21 p.m.

Atleast the chat is flowing now

what-

5:22 p.m.

oh wait chat glitched

Zenith

So we should have 4 votes (which we have) Anyone who wants to counter claim can do so. Doing that won't automatically put you under town's scrutiny.

what do u mean by this tho

5:22 p.m.

LOL

That was just poor logic there

Zenith

As for how a person will know they are the only citizens to not claim

I didn't account for this

5:23 p.m.

Also typo

5:23 p.m.

Not votes claims

5:23 p.m.

Not exactly a typo...

5:23 p.m.

I just used the wrong word lol

Oh no

Zenith

To get this game going, let's start off by claiming roles to spot inconsistencies. I am town citizen.

I don't think a bucket claim is a best idea

5:56 p.m.

Some might even call it wolfy

5:59 p.m.

Here's why a massclaim doesn't work: The wolves/Mafia just claim VT/civilian and escape suspicion

6:00 p.m.

Like

6:00 p.m.

Mafia can & will claim VT

yuh legit everyone j claims vt here LOL like its a fruitless endeavor

haii

7:21 p.m.

am home now

NOT Aeroyi

Here's why a massclaim doesn't work: The wolves/Mafia just claim VT/civilian and escape suspicion

Yeah singling out the PRs seems like a bad strategy.

well I mean if we want to do the wolves work for them we can

Maybe we can try this with one mafia down

7:26 p.m.

and better reads

i think we also have to vote someone off tonight

7:31 p.m.

today

yeah

7:31 p.m.

but like

7:31 p.m.

idk sometimes poke voting is a thing that people do

what's poke votin

like

7:32 p.m.

voting random people

oh and just hope we hit maf?

no

7:33 p.m.

like

7:33 p.m.

vote someone who hasn't showed up

7:33 p.m.

not flashwagoning someone but just voting them

oh

7:33 p.m.

just to like

7:33 p.m.

get them

7:33 p.m.

to

7:33 p.m.

respond/claim?

7:33 p.m.

or

No that's wolfy

7:34 p.m.

like

um like that

lmao

8:06 p.m.

but hm

8:06 p.m.

that doesn't even ping somehow

yeah

wouldn't it be better to just

you just have a bunch of people voting

ping the person?

it helps articulate discussion

oh

8:07 p.m.

ic

anywasy I hope that more people show

hihi

10:30 p.m.

i mean ill just throw out a read, p sure zenith is town. i dont necessarily agree w some of their ideas/gameplan but their ideas seem to stem from lack of experience and the way they r pushing them j reads as pure town

10:31 p.m.

probs my only solid read i have so far based on minimal convo here

10:32 p.m.

the rest of yall i have read as null no offense i have nothing to go off of to read yall as town or scum currently

10:32 p.m.

im also p sure phases r 48 hrs but

10:32 p.m.

correct me if im wrong

10:33 p.m.

down to live discuss whatever if ppl r around rn tho ^_^

Im js lurking and waiting for smth I can respond to

10:51 p.m.

Srry if I’m not active I’m busy w. Owning a rp server-

Oh?

10:58 p.m.

NEXUZ

10:58 p.m.

IS IT DNAGANRONPS

Pixelad3

Srry if I’m not active I’m busy w. Owning a rp server-

I have to set things up to run a game soon

ace! ★

IS IT DNAGANRONPS

Yes :3

11:49 p.m.

The cast reveals gonna b soon

I love drrps

real ‼️‼️

huh

huh,

huh

heyy what's up

We need more poke voting tbh

Poke voting?

the days start at 2am for me so i won't be talking for the first 8-18 hours(ish) after a day starts im not sure

ace! ★

Poke voting?

Literally randomly voting anyone you feel like for whatever reason you feel like

Wouldn't that be insanely stupid

basically i'd talk more during 8/9pm for me

ace! ★

Wouldn't that be insanely stupid

No...? It's not like anyone's in any danger, and a bit of action gets the game going

anyways i just read chat

Yeah fair but

12:48 a.m.

If someones inscribe and thinks “oh were voting them?” and all of the sudden everyone jumps on them

12:48 a.m.

I will laugh

Yeah

main things that happened are claiming vil and poke voting? anything else i missed or no

But then you can tell that later if a wolf was one of those voters that the target is cleared, or determine how many wolves jumped on that wagon

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main things that happened are claiming vil and poke voting? anything else i missed or no

Yeah

12:50 a.m.

Idk poke voting is like a big thing on most of the sites I play on

umm is it to see how they would react to it?

12:50 a.m.

or see who would jump in

12:51 a.m.

no?

It's just to get early stuff

12:55 a.m.

Like reactions

12:55 a.m.

Or just to get someone playing

okay so i reread chat and

1:04 a.m.

yeah im confused meowdy

1:05 a.m.

so far i think we already have a lot of vil claims (probably 5 or 6)

1:06 a.m.

there's.. a lot of things to say on the plan?

1:06 a.m.

like there's too many possibilities and im bad at reading others

1:07 a.m.

zenith said we could at least deduce who's maf from the list

1:08 a.m.

but honestly its kind of just first come first serve to me since i think anyone who said it earlier is most likely town :/

1:08 a.m.

but timezoneeeeeee

I'd argue anyone who said it first was probably maf

ok but the poke voting --> wagon --> finding maf should be a good strat

ace! ★

I'd argue anyone who said it first was probably maf

weren't you one of the first few though

Yeah.

1:12 a.m.

But still

1:12 a.m.

i thinkthe chances is higher to me its zenith

1:12 a.m.

snd the other person

yeah id just subconsciously think that zenith is town catsit

ace! ★

i thinkthe chances is higher to me its zenith

Yeah I would rather have you read me than instantly clearing me as town.

1:23 a.m.

Even if the strategy was bad, I genuinely think the chances of having a mafia in the 5 claims pretty low.

1:24 a.m.

The mafia would have to decide what they come out as there

Zenith

I hope both mafias claim citizens. It would be easier to weed them out that way

Also this one was a complete bluff. It was the only situation that was hard to handle there.

Zenith

Even if the strategy was bad, I genuinely think the chances of having a mafia in the 5 claims pretty low.

its still a first come first serve

Yeah I was just trying to get it going

Zenith

The mafia would have to decide what they come out as there

~~honestly a no brainer though that everyone would claim~~

1:28 a.m.

im heading out soon so i'll check chat to see what happens after i get home catsit

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~~honestly a no brainer though that everyone would claim~~

yeah. like even prs

1:29 a.m.

bc

1:29 a.m.

prs are getting insta killed

Yeah right

hmm

ace! ★

prs are getting insta killed

The other game seems lost btw

1:30 a.m.

Atleast I can focus on this one now

does anyone know how the other 3 roles are set

hm?

ma-76

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

does anyone know how the other 3 roles are set

They pick an alphabet and a number at random

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

does anyone know how the other 3 roles are set

im a bit slow on this cuz its not a 3x3 chart catsit

then the roles are assigned based on that

1:31 a.m.

Eg. B and 2

1:32 a.m.

Then the roles would be Rolecop, Jailkeeper and Neighbour

ohhh okay

Zenith

Then the roles would be Rolecop, Jailkeeper and Neighbour

whres the chart? info?

i rly hope we have a cop or tracker Sip

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857208538763377/1253888370812391464

then it would be easy to find them (edited)

ace! ★

I'd argue anyone who said it first was probably maf

Yeah but not that extreme

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~~honestly a no brainer though that everyone would claim~~

Huh why?

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

i rly hope we have a cop or tracker Sip

These both roles can't be together btw

So they aren't sussed

Zenith

These both roles can't be together btw

Key word. or

Zenith

The other game seems lost btw

Please don't talk about ongoing games outside of the game chat for that specific game. Thanks!

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

does anyone know how the other 3 roles are set

How they work or what they do

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

Please don't talk about ongoing games outside of the game chat for that specific game. Thanks!

Alright

NOT Aeroyi

How they work or what they do

wdym

NOT Aeroyi

How they work or what they do

Tracker can track someone and find out if they visited a person ik that. Doctor can heal idk the others tho

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

wait why are we labeling the targets for them

https://discord-mafia-role-cards.fandom.com/wiki/NewD3 @NOT Aeroyi

NewD3

NewD3 is a Newcomer Setup taken from the forum site MafiaScum. It is their current Newcomer Setup and deemed the most balanced out of all of the ones that have been in use on their site to date...

No deleting mssgs

Any logical PR is A) not claiming PR and B) not outing immediately especially it they're confirmable

Unless thatw as staff

NOT Aeroyi

wait why are we labeling the targets for them

you asked (?) and i was just repeating what ppl previously said

ace! ★

No deleting mssgs

oh

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

https://discord-mafia-role-cards.fandom.com/wiki/NewD3 @NOT Aeroyi

I think I know how most of the roles work

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

you asked (?) and i was just repeating what ppl previously said

ah

1:37 a.m.

Imo

1:38 a.m.

There is this thing called role fishing

1:38 a.m.

It's when you try to catch a PR

ace! ★

No deleting mssgs

I'll just put it back here

It's a big wolf thing

NOT Aeroyi

It's a big wolf thing

(role fishing, not deleting messages)

NOT Aeroyi

Huh why?

previous msg (deleted) someone(camryn?) said its best if pr doesn't claim pr + you said maf would claim town (edited)

NOT Aeroyi

There is this thing called role fishing

wdym and how do we prevent that

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

wdym and how do we prevent that

We kill people who role fish

1:41 a.m.

like if I asked you what your role was

1:41 a.m.

That'd be very sus

huh

1:41 a.m.

what about asking to claim?

it's sus

1:41 a.m.

that's pretty much it

oh

1:48 a.m.

how does this chart even work?

At the time of deciding roles, they pick a random alphabet and a number

so it goes by row and column

1:50 a.m.

right now it seems that 1C and 2C is possible

1:51 a.m.

as for the rest, im not sure

Can't say

1:51 a.m.

That is only possible if we have an extra citizen

that's why i said

1:51 a.m.

wait let me fix that

1:51 a.m.

1C or 2C is possible

Yeah everything is possible rn

It's a total of 6 different setups

1:52 a.m.

Although this is like a really weird matrix setup since it's 3x2

i know

1:52 a.m.

im saying 1c or 2c based of my own role Pepeeat

I mean they have only 3 for mafia and 6 variations for town

1:53 a.m.

It works

Guys

1:53 a.m.

Uh

1:53 a.m.

It's

its

Generally not a good idea to claim your role until you absolutely need to

1:54 a.m.

Just putting that out there

Things will be a lot clearer after n1

im not anything useful

Since people are bound to perform actions

dont see why not (edited)

Yeah

Uh

1:54 a.m.

You out the more useful prs

1:54 a.m.

Like

nothing

If let's say there was a doctor in a random setup And 5 people claim civilian/no role And there are 7 towns

The mafia now know who the doctor is and the doctor didn't even willingly claim

1:55 a.m.

And also not to mention that claiming vanilla/no role is actually like pointless

oh

1:55 a.m.

welp

It doesn't do anything except for make people less hesitant to vote you out and make the mafia have to determine one less person's role

1:56 a.m.

idk hopefully a PR has claimed vt

1:56 a.m.

but yeah

Yeah don't worry about it too much

1:57 a.m.

but PRs should not be claiming

well ok

1:57 a.m.

nvm then

NOT Aeroyi

but PRs should not be claiming

Claiming that they are PR; claiming you have no role is perfectly acceptable

what is pr

Plower roel

Any role that has a function

1:59 a.m.

Like an ability

1:59 a.m.

Not civilian not goon

1:59 a.m.

Okay out of curiosity how much forum mafia/chat mafia experience do y'all have (everyone, not just people in thread)

erm

2 ongoing other than this

i have never played this specific type of mafia

2:01 a.m.

but ive played other types + one of the special games

2:01 a.m.

that ended already

@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] @star

It's against the rules to edit or delete messages in game chat. I have to go though the logs to check each time someone does it.

2:37 a.m.

oh sorry

2:37 a.m.

i had autocorrect

2:37 a.m.

so it autocorrected my message

To be fair both your edits and AFK's delete were innocent correction, but it can be used to mislead, so we it's not allowed

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but honestly its kind of just first come first serve to me since i think anyone who said it earlier is most likely town :/

reiterating that this doesnt mean anything at all- everyone in the game has full incentive to claim vanilla town

2:51 a.m.

if ur a pr role u wouldnt wanna out urself, if ur vanilla town then duh, and if ur maf ur gonna say ur vanilla town it means nothing

2:52 a.m.

oh read up more and aeoliae made the same point goat

NOT Aeroyi

Okay out of curiosity how much forum mafia/chat mafia experience do y'all have (everyone, not just people in thread)

ive played 3 forum mafia games

Hi guys

3:30 a.m.

Its midnight for me im abt to go to bed

3:30 a.m.

Whats goin on

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

reiterating that this doesnt mean anything at all- everyone in the game has full incentive to claim vanilla town

mhm mhm

6:27 a.m.

so pretty much everyone will be claiming cit until either they have useful info/can CC a weird claim somehow

NOT Aeroyi

Okay out of curiosity how much forum mafia/chat mafia experience do y'all have (everyone, not just people in thread)

oh and for this i don't really have much mafia experience but i've played a bit of other sdg like enemy on board, dread hunger and stuffs

6:29 a.m.

but most of of that stuff is all voice chat and focuses more on trying to get away with hidden actions over just reads based on text

6:30 a.m.

so am not really experienced at that

@Zen you're being voted. How do you feel?

uh

6:52 a.m.

doin alr ngl

6:52 a.m.

a bit tired cuz just woke

6:52 a.m.

but good

@Helvaria hey hru

7:39 a.m.

let's talk

?

What do you want to talk about

have you read chat

Yes

what are ur thoughts then

Noone really stands out to me as evil right now, but I have a few players that are probably town in mind

NOT Aeroyi

Okay out of curiosity how much forum mafia/chat mafia experience do y'all have (everyone, not just people in thread)

not much but recently im playing some games on a mafia bot

7:43 a.m.

its kind of a lot of wagoning

7:43 a.m.

and getting whoever's afk the most so idk that doesn't help much

Helvaria

Noone really stands out to me as evil right now, but I have a few players that are probably town in mind

hmm why didn't you talk more earlier

7:47 a.m.

(just what i was curious about cuz i only saw u reply once)

7:47 a.m.

also who do u hv in mind & what made you think that

Because nothing of note has occured

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also who do u hv in mind & what made you think that

I don't want anyone getting too comfortable, so I won't mention everyone I think is probably town. But since it has already been said, yes I also think Zenith is probably town for the attempted mass claim. That said, it's possible they were trying to find prs or had some plan for their team to claim.

hihi! will be working for 5 hrs so will be pretty spotty here today </3

Zen

oh and for this i don't really have much mafia experience but i've played a bit of other sdg like enemy on board, dread hunger and stuffs

That's fine!

oh

if anyone has reads on anyone both town or scum tbh post <3

2:18 p.m.

to add on i also lean towards aeoliae being town but im not super confident on it

2:19 p.m.

zenith is my only solid town read here

i don't really have anything

2:19 p.m.

i'd say i trust aeoliae

2:19 p.m.

but i think

2:19 p.m.

that's more so just cuz

2:19 p.m.

they've been teaching me stuff

2:19 p.m.

lmao

theyve been productive ya

2:19 p.m.

LOL

mhm

i dont rly like pixelads interactions here as well. they seem to j be posting a lot of fluff and not rly saying much to progress convo at all but granted its early

?

? in regards to what

2:22 p.m.

if its fluff it means posts with no game substance

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i dont rly like pixelads interactions here as well. they seem to j be posting a lot of fluff and not rly saying much to progress convo at all but granted its early

tbf it isss kinda early and we have a bunch of time

just like speaking to speak

and esp if they're from like the org community like me then i get it ngl

2:22 p.m.

cuz i had that habit too

im also from orgs omg

oop haii

2:22 p.m.

what type?

ya but they r barely active and when they r they j post like nothing ab the game

2:23 p.m.

LOL

2:23 p.m.

and survivor/bb orgs

well

2:23 p.m.

i dont have clue

2:23 p.m.

like i said im just a citizen

2:23 p.m.

i mean i wasnt talking ab u LOL

ok

but kinda a weird response from u

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

and survivor/bb orgs

oo

2:25 p.m.

i could never get into bb

2:25 p.m.

it takes too longggg

2:25 p.m.

2:25 p.m.

for me i was mostly doin survivor or battlegrounds

2:25 p.m.

they're pretty funs

2:26 p.m.

but i've mostly stopped playing in them now

2:26 p.m.

took up too much of my time

bb is wayyy more of a time commitment but im a better bb player than a survivor player

2:28 p.m.

its sm harder to get good reads in survivor too many variables

Zen

took up too much of my time

i agree they r a massive time sink sobs

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

its sm harder to get good reads in survivor too many variables

yesss but that's like what makes it so fun tho

2:31 p.m.

i think i thrive the best in those formats where u have 1on1s with people and hidden votes

voted star j to get some convo going and bc i rly did not like their response to me talking ab my read on aeoliae. i never accused them of anything and they felt the need to randomly reiterate they were town with no prompting or warning ^_^

you’re read on aeoliae?

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i dont rly like pixelads interactions here as well. they seem to j be posting a lot of fluff and not rly saying much to progress convo at all but granted its early

you said this

not aeoliae pixel my b

and i thought you were implying to everyone

implying what?

implying how everyone is not giving much info and just fluff

no i said that ab pixel

yeah

2:34 p.m.

and i didnt know that was another person

regardless i dont rly like the constant reinforcing that ur a citizen it seems put on to me. am open to changing my vote but keeping it here for now

ok then

2:36 p.m.

what else should i have said

2:36 p.m.

that im mafia?

2:36 p.m.

whatever you believe

2:36 p.m.

up to you

star star

2:37 p.m.

is less like

2:37 p.m.

they think u should have said something else

2:37 p.m.

and more just

it truly isnt that deep

im saying that weve established that claiming citizen ultimately means nothing. from my pov someone who feels the need to constantly claim that they r town is scumesque behavior bc it seems like ur TRYING to seem town rather than actually acting as town

felt like u popped out to defend urself for somehting not at u

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

it truly isnt that deep

im saying that weve established that claiming citizen ultimately means nothing. from my pov someone who feels the need to constantly claim that they r town is scumesque behavior bc it seems like ur TRYING to seem town rather than actually acting as town

ya ya this

ok

but ur probs fine star

2:38 p.m.

i mean you could check me if you dont believe me PEPEhmmsus

once i get more from everyone ill probs move my vote if i have a better read but its ultimately good to j put pressure on ppl to start convos

2:39 p.m.

bc no convos happening = no good reads forming from any of us

star

i mean you could check me if you dont believe me PEPEhmmsus

wdym by this

2:39 p.m.

check??

it's not for sure that we even can check u

2:40 p.m.

without like voting u off ofc

2:40 p.m.

but that's

well then lynch me off

a

2:40 p.m.

2:41 p.m.

it's not that deep

im just saying

LMFAO

2:54 p.m.

calm down its legit a single vote

Hi

hihi

star

im just saying

Votes are usually used for checking reactions and since it's not EOD, they can be changed anytime

Ok seriously whats going on

You got a prod

Yea ik that

Try to maintain some activity here btw

Ik

3:40 p.m.

What happened other than that-

It's just a single prod so shouldn't harm much

Pixelad3

What happened other than that-

Town ended up voting a few lads

3:40 p.m.

You should backread a bit on that

Zenith

Votes are usually used for checking reactions and since it's not EOD, they can be changed anytime

They can't be changed at EoD?

They can't be changed after 12am GMT

3:41 p.m.

The chat is locked

3:42 p.m.

Usually a lot of changes are expected just before EOD

3:42 p.m.

Because that's pretty much the final lynch

oh

it's hard to predict the results by current status of votes

Eod I normally refer to as the hour or two leading up to the actual dayend

And also because it's d1

Rollover is what I call the period of time between phases

NOT Aeroyi

Eod I normally refer to as the hour or two leading up to the actual dayend

Oh I see

3:44 p.m.

I don't know these terms too well to say anything for sure but that's how I used it in the last game. Correct me if I am wrong.

They differ between site tbh

Ok I got a few reads

4:18 p.m.

Warning all of these are from looking at messages and gut feelings

4:19 p.m.

Aeoliae - Town Maybe??? IDK they could have a PR Zenith - Also Town, but I feel slightly more sure abt it Zenew - No clue Helvaria - Also no clue (edited)

Pixelad3

Aeoliae - Town Maybe??? IDK they could have a PR Zenith - Also Town, but I feel slightly more sure abt it Zenew - No clue Helvaria - Also no clue (edited)

4:22 p.m.

best to not discuss who you think are prs

Oh fuck sorry

yo

9:41 p.m.

is anyone here like waves

9:42 p.m.

What

Zenith

Town ended up voting a few lads

wdym by town btw

9:43 p.m.

nothing im j bored and wanna make this chat active

9:43 p.m.

LOL

9:43 p.m.

aeoliae do u have any reads yet

9:46 p.m.

whats ur logic on the zen vote

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

Click to see attachment 🖼️

we fr need to get discussion going

9:47 p.m.

i still know nothing all my reads r based off of minimal interactions

I am literally so sorry that I haven't been talking

ur fine LOL i worked for like half of today

Zenith

Try to maintain some activity here btw

another question for u sorry. why do u feel the need to warn pixelad? im not asking bc i think its necessarily shady j curious to know ur rationale

Well most people try and keep their players active either eay

maybe so but im curious to know what zenith has to say about it

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

wdym by town btw

As a general term there. Can use chat instead.

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

nothing im j bored and wanna make this chat active

Lol

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

another question for u sorry. why do u feel the need to warn pixelad? im not asking bc i think its necessarily shady j curious to know ur rationale

Honestly it would be bad to lose players to prods rn especially since we still don't have enough reads on them. And no other way to get reads than having them actively chat here.

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

is anyone here like waves

Hii

10:59 p.m.

Again honestly no clue what to talk abt but im trying to be active when I can

so true camryn

ok so i feel more confident in this read now after the responses so im putting it here. this interaction SCREAMS that pixel/zenith are paired in some way in the game. the moment pixel comes in and asks a simple question zenith immediately warns him ab the prod which ig can be in good faith. but this is what bothers me ab the interaction

the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake.
zenith has never interacted with any other user like this other than pixelad. i read thru their posts and theyve never warned any other players of getting pushed. theyve only ever interacted and given advice/help to pixelad so far
“just a single prod so shouldnt harm much” reads as sooooo scummy to me like wdym it shouldnt harm much? if ur town, pushes r something that benefit the game, u want to talk about why people are getting pushed and what theyve said to solve them lastly and what encouraged me to make this post is the moment zenith responded and came online, pixelad suddenly appears literally a minute after them out of nowhere. everytime pixelad has appeared today its been right after zenith speaks in chat. this just screams paired interaction and im leaning towards it being scummy

oh that's

11:24 p.m.

why u were typing for so long

well yes

11:25 p.m.

okay

11:25 p.m.

well for the other points

11:25 p.m.

i'm not rly sure abt them

11:25 p.m.

but will say

11:25 p.m.

"the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake."

11:26 p.m.

this is like

11:26 p.m.

pretty normal i'd say

LOL ive never once seen that in the forum games ive played tbf

maybe is more a tos thingy?

11:26 p.m.

ig

11:26 p.m.

cuz ur like the town

11:26 p.m.

of salem

11:26 p.m.

idfk

so it set off alarm bells for me but regardless i still have this read without zenith saying that

but i've seen it used plenty

i j think pixelad only appearing everytime after zenith has spoken today is bizarre and kinda undeniable

u feel like

11:28 p.m.

they go maf chat, talk then come here and talk

11:28 p.m.

or just

11:28 p.m.

the fact they both come same time is weird

11:28 p.m.

?

ya thats mt main point

11:28 p.m.

their interactions seem coordinated

11:30 p.m.

and the way zenith interacts w pixel seems different than how hes interacted w anyone else in the game thus far from backreading his posts

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ok so i feel more confident in this read now after the responses so im putting it here. this interaction SCREAMS that pixel/zenith are paired in some way in the game. the moment pixel comes in and asks a simple question zenith immediately warns him ab the prod which ig can be in good faith. but this is what bothers me ab the interaction

the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake.
zenith has never interacted with any other user like this other than pixelad. i read thru their posts and theyve never warned any other players of getting pushed. theyve only ever interacted and given advice/help to pixelad so far
“just a single prod so shouldnt harm much” reads as sooooo scummy to me like wdym it shouldnt harm much? if ur town, pushes r something that benefit the game, u want to talk about why people are getting pushed and what theyve said to solve them lastly and what encouraged me to make this post is the moment zenith responded and came online, pixelad suddenly appears literally a minute after them out of nowhere. everytime pixelad has appeared today its been right after zenith speaks in chat. this just screams paired interaction and im leaning towards it being scummy

I dont even know them

11:31 p.m.

I mixed them up with zen a few times actually-

u might know them in ur scum chat idk >_<

The whole talking after each other thing is a coincidence

11:31 p.m.

Idek why they warned me abt prods

11:32 p.m.

I already knew by then

11:32 p.m.

Its just a stupid reminder

im not saying u have a relationship outside of this game or anything im saying the way uve interacted w them is bizarre and seems like within the game that ur paired

Pixelad3

Idek why they warned me abt prods

The host literally told me about it in my player chat

11:33 p.m.

And I saw that first

11:33 p.m.

And then I asked what was going on with the votes

11:33 p.m.

And they just started talking abt prods like

11:33 p.m.

I fucking know ok

im not saying that did or didnt happen thats not rly the point im making LOL the interaction j read as very strange and i wanted to point it out

Zen

"the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake."

Yea I just use the word town bc I play town of salem lol

u didnt say that zenith did

11:34 p.m.

ftr

Yea

11:34 p.m.

Because I dont know them ✨

11:34 p.m.

At all ✨

11:35 p.m.

And I think town is a pretty common term in things like these ✨

11:35 p.m.

Hope that helps

it didnt ✨

hjshjshj

11:36 p.m.

i love the sass

Pixelad3

I mixed them up with zen a few times actually-

kinda rude tho

11:36 p.m.

smh

yea

zen and zenith are so different names smhh

I mix ppl up a lot dw

maybe it'd help if you shortened zenith's name

11:37 p.m.

maybe zen

11:37 p.m.

so

11:37 p.m.

you have

11:37 p.m.

zen

11:37 p.m.

and zen

11:37 p.m.

11:37 p.m.

hope that helps

I mixed them up in my head

nws nws

11:37 p.m.

lmao

11:38 p.m.

i did act go to check the name zen in the search in case my name was said and i missed it

11:38 p.m.

and i saw zenith was called zen

11:38 p.m.

in another game they played

11:38 p.m.

i was so confused

11:38 p.m.

for a sec

having extremely similar names is so unfortunate LOL

Yea thankfully I didnt rlly mix up ur names lol

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

having extremely similar names is so unfortunate LOL

yeahhh

I just get confused at time xp

but it's kinda cute ngl

11:39 p.m.

uhhh

11:39 p.m.

okay

11:39 p.m.

is there anyone who hasn't like

11:39 p.m.

talked yet

Star I think

nah star was on for a bit before

Oh

they seem kinda a bit

11:40 p.m.

happy to die tho

11:40 p.m.

idk if that's too great

the rainbow pfp person hasnt rly talked

11:40 p.m.

besides like 3 messages ijbol

Yea

who

ider their name

11:40 p.m.

LOLLL

Last time I checked they had 7 messages in here

11:40 p.m.

Wait ik their name uhh

11:40 p.m.

Helvaria

@camryn (✿◠‿◠) @Zen @NOT Aeroyi @Ace! @star @Helvaria @[

] @Zenith @Pixelad3

11:40 p.m.

OH

11:40 p.m.

THTA PFINF

11:40 p.m.

SOBS

11:40 p.m.

NOOO

11:41 p.m.

i was tryna copy paste the players

11:41 p.m.

ams sorry

11:41 p.m.

okay

11:41 p.m.

but

11:41 p.m.

helvaria

11:41 p.m.

yeah

11:41 p.m.

i mean ig i pinged the right person at least

Yea lol-

they weren't showing as pings in the msg

xp

u got deceived and bamboozled

literally clowned on

Discord is being evil lol

sob

11:42 p.m.

alr welp

11:42 p.m.

also wow

11:42 p.m.

i forgot how little players there were tho

11:43 p.m.

for some reason i thought we were way more

11:43 p.m.

ig cuz when i think of mafia i think of bigger games

Real

like more 15-20+

11:44 p.m.

who is ace

11:44 p.m.

have they talked

Uhh

11:44 p.m.

Lemme check

Zen

who is ace

Yea they have

11:44 p.m.

41 messages

oh yes

11:44 p.m.

i also searched them up

11:44 p.m.

okay okay i know their pfp

11:44 p.m.

just

11:44 p.m.

forgor the name

Reall

do yall have any reads like pls share i look like a tweaker being the only one posting shit

I read aeoliae (i think thats how u spell their name?? Idk) as town earlier but im not that good at reads and it was sorta based on gut feeling-

sobs sorry i'm not used ot like text mafia and the like reads

11:47 p.m.

but ig

11:47 p.m.

off

11:47 p.m.

vibes so far

11:48 p.m.

camryn feels like they at least want an active game which is good for town

mhm

uhh aeolie i said sam earlier that i kinda trust but i think i might be biased cuz they were helping me earlier

11:48 p.m.

same*

11:49 p.m.

aside from that

Pixelad3

I read aeoliae (i think thats how u spell their name?? Idk) as town earlier but im not that good at reads and it was sorta based on gut feeling-

i think gut reading ppl isnt bad ftr bc ultimately ur getting good vibes from what they r posting

11:49 p.m.

i also said i town leaned aeolie triplets ig blurry_crying

tryna think

11:49 p.m.

but idt

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i think gut reading ppl isnt bad ftr bc ultimately ur getting good vibes from what they r posting

Yea

i have much else ngl

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i also said i town leaned aeolie triplets ig blurry_crying

AHAHHASHSHSHH

maybe i'll remember if i do and mention it

Yea same here I dont rlly have many reads

cheers to being clueless?

I think zenith might be town but I’m feeling a bit unsure of that now-

well not clueless clueless but

11:50 p.m.

u know

ftr zenith was my strongest town read before i like analyzed that interaction

11:50 p.m.

What interaction? /genq

oh the one i like posted an essay about LMFAO

OH

11:51 p.m.

Yea I was busy defending myself like I was in court srry-

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ftr zenith was my strongest town read before i like analyzed that interaction

OH WAIT

11:52 p.m.

i do remember

11:52 p.m.

so abt zenith

11:52 p.m.

idk how i feel abt them after

11:52 p.m.

but i remember

11:52 p.m.

feeling weird abt their first msgs

11:52 p.m.

cuz like

11:52 p.m.

i know a lot of people said it was like

Zen

feeling weird abt their first msgs

Now that I think abt it same

very towny

11:52 p.m.

but it felt like

11:52 p.m.

fake to me

11:52 p.m.

somehow

Honestly same

but am also not good at these games

11:52 p.m.

so i hushed

11:53 p.m.

oop hi ace

Pixelad3

Yea I was busy defending myself like I was in court srry-

sry if im doing too much im not trying to attack j trying to get somewhere w reads and it lowkey made chat active so yays

ace! ★

Honestly same

Hi ace

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

sry if im doing too much im not trying to attack j trying to get somewhere w reads and it lowkey made chat active so yays

Yaya

11:53 p.m.

I was trying to be more active anyway lol-

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

sry if im doing too much im not trying to attack j trying to get somewhere w reads and it lowkey made chat active so yays

drama makes the world go round ig

So its ok ^^

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ok so i feel more confident in this read now after the responses so im putting it here. this interaction SCREAMS that pixel/zenith are paired in some way in the game. the moment pixel comes in and asks a simple question zenith immediately warns him ab the prod which ig can be in good faith. but this is what bothers me ab the interaction

the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake.
zenith has never interacted with any other user like this other than pixelad. i read thru their posts and theyve never warned any other players of getting pushed. theyve only ever interacted and given advice/help to pixelad so far
“just a single prod so shouldnt harm much” reads as sooooo scummy to me like wdym it shouldnt harm much? if ur town, pushes r something that benefit the game, u want to talk about why people are getting pushed and what theyve said to solve them lastly and what encouraged me to make this post is the moment zenith responded and came online, pixelad suddenly appears literally a minute after them out of nowhere. everytime pixelad has appeared today its been right after zenith speaks in chat. this just screams paired interaction and im leaning towards it being scummy

That prod talk was a sort of test

5:23 a.m.

I have noticed that the prod rules are a bit lenient in the sense that mafia can get away with them 2 nights in a row

5:24 a.m.

Though I didn't have a strong reason to suspect pixel, I just tried to gauge his reaction on that caution

5:25 a.m.

It was actually because someone pointed out that maybe the mafia could have revealed their roles to appear towny

5:26 a.m.

And talking about prods might give some hints

5:27 a.m.

What I had in mind back then was to get reasons for absence than question the slight irrelevance of the question

5:27 a.m.

A mafia probably would have gone for the former

Zenith

It was actually because someone pointed out that maybe the mafia could have revealed their roles to appear towny

*revealed early

That being said that was a solid analysis.

responding to camryn asking us to post reads -- too lazy to scroll through and find the msg -yes i have some thoughts but most have been said and some i haven't thought of yet -idk how much i can add to it (probably very little) -if reiterating other's points is useless i'll just skip that next time but rn i'll just write out whatever

impressions/reads (?) idek if these are reads also these are just what i remember from yesterday nothing too much from today ig

helvaria

more afk than me lol what only had one msg when i came back home yesterday --> voted zen and asked how he felt or smth (that was the ONLY interaction i saw and no reasons were given other than smth similar to "found nothing to reply to") ofc other than me asking questions but i got nothing from their replies either, didn't add anything much to convo and i didn't want to just keep asking questions/had nothing else to say to them (idk im not an interrogator)

staururio

i think i had star as town yesterday (actually cuz they kinda kept talking about being a citizen) reading today's chat was weird they talked about town citizen 4 times yesterday and once today -IF we rly want to pick out some problems (actually nothing much here they just have less msges so its easier to read through and randomly pick out some msges that others may not have asked) "who hasnt claimed?" -- could just be asking cuz there was a list which was not filled in fully yet (town)/but also could be looking out for who else might be pr and not in the list (maf) "how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen" -- town asking genuinely/yeah how are normal citizens going to find out who's maf (maf) "i think we also have to vote someone off tonight" -- no one said a thing about this / thnx for the reminder? / who should we vote off tonight (town/maf)

zenith_orionis

-first to ask us to claim vil (+town points for me) -has played/is playing 2 other games (i think?) -smth about "we should not single out PRs" but if they have some experience playing chat mafia then why the claim list thing (-town) -haven't rly read today's interactions but most have been covered by camryn

pixelad3

-most afk here -just hellos and goodnights -said they had an rp server so they're inactive (still haven't talked much) not enough characters remaining

7:19 a.m.

still have zenew, camryn, ace, aeoliae

7:20 a.m.

im too lazy to type lol lemme take a break

oh yeah i remembered someone giving their reads on who pr may be and that is a lil dangerous

7:33 a.m.

i forgot who though

7:38 a.m.

guyssssss wake up

7:39 a.m.

this is why i don't like mafia games that takes days meowdy

7:39 a.m.

basically any games tho even chess cuz there's less interaction with others than in short games (does that make sense?)

Alright here

7:40 a.m.

Let me find that message

oh hi

7:41 a.m.

what message

NOT Aeroyi

(role fishing, not deleting messages)

Around this part

what

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

oh yeah i remembered someone giving their reads on who pr may be and that is a lil dangerous

Trying to find who you were talking about

oh okay

7:44 a.m.

do you have any reads though

7:44 a.m.

or sent any msges about ur reads

I haven't

7:45 a.m.

I have just tried a few tricks

do tell?

Zenith

That prod talk was a sort of test

One of them was this

7:46 a.m.

What do you think a town would have responded to when asked about getting a prod?

idk

7:47 a.m.

"sorry was busy i will try to talk more when im free"

7:47 a.m.

???

Probably yeah

but that's just normal convo

And what about a mafia?

that doesn't even relate to mafia or town

Zenith

And what about a mafia?

"oops i was too busy in mafia gc hehe my bad"

Lol I feel the mafia would be more inclined to defend themselves there

7:48 a.m.

Especially if it was an intentional inactivity

7:48 a.m.

Since like I said earlier, it's easy to get away with prods

7:48 a.m.

i ghost others a lot irl

Zenith

Since like I said earlier, it's easy to get away with prods

yes

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

i ghost others a lot irl

I find it difficult somehow

Zenith

I have just tried a few tricks

anything else?

7:49 a.m.

or just try something on me im bored

Well I tried to do something with my earlier stuff

7:49 a.m.

But it was just poor logic at the end

oh yeah kinda

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

impressions/reads (?) idek if these are reads also these are just what i remember from yesterday nothing too much from today ig

helvaria

more afk than me lol what only had one msg when i came back home yesterday --> voted zen and asked how he felt or smth (that was the ONLY interaction i saw and no reasons were given other than smth similar to "found nothing to reply to") ofc other than me asking questions but i got nothing from their replies either, didn't add anything much to convo and i didn't want to just keep asking questions/had nothing else to say to them (idk im not an interrogator)

staururio

i think i had star as town yesterday (actually cuz they kinda kept talking about being a citizen) reading today's chat was weird they talked about town citizen 4 times yesterday and once today -IF we rly want to pick out some problems (actually nothing much here they just have less msges so its easier to read through and randomly pick out some msges that others may not have asked) "who hasnt claimed?" -- could just be asking cuz there was a list which was not filled in fully yet (town)/but also could be looking out for who else might be pr and not in the list (maf) "how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen" -- town asking genuinely/yeah how are normal citizens going to find out who's maf (maf) "i think we also have to vote someone off tonight" -- no one said a thing about this / thnx for the reminder? / who should we vote off tonight (town/maf)

zenith_orionis

-first to ask us to claim vil (+town points for me) -has played/is playing 2 other games (i think?) -smth about "we should not single out PRs" but if they have some experience playing chat mafia then why the claim list thing (-town) -haven't rly read today's interactions but most have been covered by camryn

pixelad3

-most afk here -just hellos and goodnights -said they had an rp server so they're inactive (still haven't talked much) not enough characters remaining

btw thoughts on yours?

It's hard to find patterns now that I tried to read it

basically just the one thing about how you've played other games

Yeah I am playing 2 other games

7:50 a.m.

But one started after this one (sp-51)

7:50 a.m.

And it is the only other game that have prs

huh

So I am kind of inexperienced with these roles

there are games without prs?

Like I have not completed a game yet

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

there are games without prs?

Yep

no doctors no mayors at all?

All citizens

??????

Hydra games

how-

7:51 a.m.

anyways

ma76

7:51 a.m.

Eg.

Zenith

Yeah I am playing 2 other games

have you finished any chat mafia games

Your star read seems pretty well-explained

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

have you finished any chat mafia games

Not yet

7:54 a.m.

I have played Mafiabot before getting into these long games

Zenith

Your star read seems pretty well-explained

not rly just bored and typing whatever catsit

Zenith

I have played Mafiabot before getting into these long games

yesyes mafiabot

7:56 a.m.

those have prs too no?

Yep they do

7:56 a.m.

It's a hard comparison between these two games though

7:56 a.m.

Seemingly there are things you can risk doing in shorter games

Zenith

It's a hard comparison between these two games though

kinda (also not used to not finishing a game in under an hour kjdfhglakfg)

Same here

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

btw thoughts on yours?

-smth about "we should not single out PRs" but if they have some experience playing chat mafia then why the claim list thing (-town)

care to answer me on this?

Claim list thing

uh

7:59 a.m.

the one

Do you mean the first one?

you did at the beginning

Oh that

7:59 a.m.

Well I was trying to divide the town in two but I guess it wasn't that easy + it would have helped mafia

8:00 a.m.

Trying to reduce the number of people to check on

did you plan the claim list thing before the game started? Sip

Well it was like something that struck me

8:04 a.m.

I kind of rushed there without giving it much thought

8:04 a.m.

My logic was rather elementary too

Zenith

I kind of rushed there without giving it much thought

i can see that

I just thought that it can divide the town in two groups, one claiming to be citizens, other not

8:04 a.m.

And since there can be only 5 (at max 6), we can probably find an anomaly

yeah i read that

But then I didn't account for the threat prs will have to face

8:06 a.m.

If anything, it probably broke the ice

8:06 a.m.

Still unsure how to properly start off these games

hmmm ok

Zenith

Still unsure how to properly start off these games

i don't need to hehe Sip

(thanks to timezone)

Lucky

alright imma go study then do the remaining reads

8:09 a.m.

good luck to me meowdy

Good luck

Hello town

9:53 a.m.

End of day is coming soon

9:54 a.m.

Unfortunately, I will not be there

9:54 a.m.

As such, I will say what I think of our current situation

9:54 a.m.

Right now

9:55 a.m.

I don't think we should vote Zenith, AFK, or Camryn. They've been the only ones contributing reads so far. No point killing them off now.

9:55 a.m.

I don't think star is evil. They seem more inexperienced, and unfamiliar with how to play without night abilities.

9:56 a.m.

They also display a complete inability to read the 2x3 matrix, by ignoring the 5x citizen.

9:57 a.m.

It's possible for an evil to do this, but I would expect an evil to be more familiar with how the matrix works.

9:58 a.m.

Remaining are Zen/Aeoliae/Ace/pixel

9:58 a.m.

I am voting @NOT Aeroyi

reasons?

10:04 a.m.

@Helvaria

Helvaria

Unfortunately, I will not be there

1. why not

Helvaria

I don't think we should vote Zenith, AFK, or Camryn. They've been the only ones contributing reads so far. No point killing them off now.

you could also contribute some reads

10:06 a.m.

but didn't

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

1. why not

Timezone

Helvaria

I don't think star is evil. They seem more inexperienced, and unfamiliar with how to play without night abilities.

reasons to not vote zenith/afk/camryn/star

️ reasons to vote aeoliae ❌

Helvaria

Timezone

were u busy all day?

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

reasons?

They're clearly capable at mafia.

why are you talking so little

But if you look at their messages, they haven't contributed much

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

why are you talking so little

I don't think talking a lot is a necessity for a mafia game.

???

did you not read rules?

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

were u busy all day?

Timezone is the reason I can't be there at day end.

10:09 a.m.

Because I'm not awake

Helvaria

Hello town

these are only 11 msges

Helvaria

Timezone is the reason I can't be there at day end.

what about the rest of the time

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

did you not read rules?

I did.

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

what about the rest of the time

I was busy, or just didn't feel like saying anything.

ok, good luck then

10:10 a.m.

wanna give reads?

10:11 a.m.

like

10:11 a.m.

why should i not vote you

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

wanna give reads?

Na, not now, probably not today

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

why should i not vote you

Because I'm town.

lol

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

and alternatively if someone is avoiding talking we should probs put sme pressure on them

dude @Helvaria

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ya but us as town NOT TALKING is even worse for us winning like we cant form reads if convos dont happen LOL

^^this

zenew

so far seems to be more observant/more convos (since its d1 but at least they talk)/nothing much from zen until asked for reads --- gave reads -- mentioned inexperience in these kind games in msges

cabbate

-mvp lol -checks in from time to time (active) -gives a lot of info/gets the game going/kind of gives us a direction as to how to play and what not to do etc -gives reads whenever she can & encourages others to do so as well -all her reads have reasons supporting it and not just short/half-assed reasons --points-->conclusion

Ace!

seems new -- also townish -- just from the way they talk -- also they haven't spoken much today either

aeoliae

was just leaning for town until helvaria said smth -gives info about game/tells us what to avoid/mentioned poke voting strategy/explaining a bunch of stuff/also said to not out prs -poke voted zen but did not say anything -kind of just did that to accompany the poke voting mention in chat (?) -said they had to set things up to run a game soon (maybe that's why they're not talking now?) -asked about other's experience but never replied/talked about their experience ace! - 3 msges aeoliae - 9 msges is it normal for many players to be prodded or is it this game only??

I am

10:58 a.m.

Not new

oh

Well as new as some are

my bad

This is like my 6th? 7th?

10:59 a.m.

8th.

11:00 a.m.

So I have 4msgs totall

11:00 a.m.

47*

its pretty normal to have more people prodded because we have less people

11:01 a.m.

9 isnt as much as 20

hihi

11:01 a.m.

sry i drank last night LOL

Yeah.

11:01 a.m.

Its all good

extra reads on helvaria since they finally talked --i don't like how they don't bother to talk -isn't talking for most of the day and pops in for a bit (probably less than an hour) -doesn't add anything too much unless asked (eg. reasons for voting aeoliae) -seemed out of the blue to me before they gave a reason (gave a couple names, then said they're voting aeoliae & what about the others?) -but they could probably want aeoliae out because they're capable at mafia (maf wouldn't want someone capable to be in their way and prefer to vote them out first?/or maybe it would help later on so they won't seem to suddenly be sussing on aeoliae)/(if town then they know each other and aeoliae is usually actively helping as town but idk their relationship) -"i don't think we should vote...contributing reads..." may be an attempt to sound town and cuz town would be less likely to kill those who contribute reads especially when in contrast to those who don't show up much - but zen ace pixel (i think, iirc) have also given some reads -"no point killing them off now" kill? not vote? -star no evil - noted -"unfamiliar with how to play without night abilities" - how do you know they don't have night abilities? -why would evil be more familiar with the matrix -only reason they gave for being inactive is busy/don't feel like saying anything -reason for inactivity in EoD is timezone -i won't be active during EoD either cuz of timezone, but i still talk more ???

ace! ★

8th.

ohhh that's a lot

Okay. Would we vote them? Or pray we have lieka. Tracker or something

what

11:03 a.m.

who

im probs switching off of my star vote btw

11:03 a.m.

their reaction after i voted them was giving angry new town

11:03 a.m.

LOL

lmao

idt u tweak like that if ur maf even if ur new

11:03 a.m.

LMFAO

vote me vote me Sip

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

who

Hel?

i wanna talk with u

11:04 a.m.

ok ill stop tweaking then

ace! ★

Hel?

i haven't changed my vote on them (wasn't bothered to but for now i don't have anyone else to vote for)

ace has posted nothing but fluffposts which is worth talking about btw

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ace has posted nothing but fluffposts which is worth talking about btw

11:06 a.m.

yeah shortest one out of my reads

well now that i know how the matrix works

11:07 a.m.

star

well now that i know how the matrix works

yeah?

11:07 a.m.

what's next

the mafias would lean more towards the two goons

idt im following

11:08 a.m.

were you the one talking about 1c or 2c

yeah

oh

if there are 5 villages

11:08 a.m.

and many are citizens

11:08 a.m.

then that means the roll could have been 1C or 2C

but we don't know how many are actually citizens

lmao @Ngekop ping me in a game im not in

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

lmao @Ngekop ping me in a game im not in

THIS WAS THE MOST EXCITING GAME EVER

11:09 a.m.

i watched every minute of it

@/Lagavulin

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

THIS WAS THE MOST EXCITING GAME EVER

which

woops

i also have zenew hesitantly town read currently, i feel like even if she didnt provide too much of her own reads a lot of her engagements in convo were to progress game solving not distract from it

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but we don't know how many are actually citizens

im saying it based off my own awkward

OMFG

11:10 a.m.

sorry

lmao

wrong chat?

nge pinged me in sp51 by mistake

11:10 a.m.

instead of ma76

11:10 a.m.

then i also pinged him in the wrong chat to tell him

11:10 a.m.

anyway carry on

11:11 a.m.

you have less than 3 hours lol

anyways

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

you have less than 3 hours lol

the others are not showing up

did that make sense though?

no?

11:11 a.m.

ok so

11:11 a.m.

it's either 5 + 2 or 6 + 1 ?

Yeah

how do you know you're one of the 5 citizens

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

the others are not showing up

well, you could ping @ alivelineNE -- it would get everyone alive in this game pinged

or that you're the extra citizen

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

well, you could ping @ alivelineNE -- it would get everyone alive in this game pinged

omg yes

11:12 a.m.

can i

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i also have zenew hesitantly town read currently, i feel like even if she didnt provide too much of her own reads a lot of her engagements in convo were to progress game solving not distract from it

i think i could be biased tho bc shes interacted w me like everytime ive posted LOL so ive seen a lot of her active

ohh

11:12 a.m.

i don't remember too much about zenew

regardless i think shes not a great day 1 vote bc shes active and contributing

i kinda want to vote helvaria out just for not being active (kind of biased) catsit

What do you think about pixel? I really don't understand what to make out of the chats

pixel is not contributing much

11:14 a.m.

but

11:14 a.m.

i don't think i read much about her posts today

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impressions/reads (?) idek if these are reads also these are just what i remember from yesterday nothing too much from today ig

helvaria

more afk than me lol what only had one msg when i came back home yesterday --> voted zen and asked how he felt or smth (that was the ONLY interaction i saw and no reasons were given other than smth similar to "found nothing to reply to") ofc other than me asking questions but i got nothing from their replies either, didn't add anything much to convo and i didn't want to just keep asking questions/had nothing else to say to them (idk im not an interrogator)

staururio

i think i had star as town yesterday (actually cuz they kinda kept talking about being a citizen) reading today's chat was weird they talked about town citizen 4 times yesterday and once today -IF we rly want to pick out some problems (actually nothing much here they just have less msges so its easier to read through and randomly pick out some msges that others may not have asked) "who hasnt claimed?" -- could just be asking cuz there was a list which was not filled in fully yet (town)/but also could be looking out for who else might be pr and not in the list (maf) "how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen" -- town asking genuinely/yeah how are normal citizens going to find out who's maf (maf) "i think we also have to vote someone off tonight" -- no one said a thing about this / thnx for the reminder? / who should we vote off tonight (town/maf)

zenith_orionis

-first to ask us to claim vil (+town points for me) -has played/is playing 2 other games (i think?) -smth about "we should not single out PRs" but if they have some experience playing chat mafia then why the claim list thing (-town) -haven't rly read today's interactions but most have been covered by camryn

pixelad3

-most afk here -just hellos and goodnights -said they had an rp server so they're inactive (still haven't talked much) not enough characters remaining

also in regards to the zenith thing he at first said he did want PRs to claim

one question

LOL

11:15 a.m.

and i said that rhats bad practice

so my thoughts on pixel is still yesterdays

and he moved off of it

Yeah I can see your point

Helvaria

I am voting @NOT Aeroyi

h uh

It was a half-cooked strat

should mafia be more active or less active

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

and he moved off of it

ye im just saying if he has played mafia he should know not to isolate prs (probably)

star

should mafia be more active or less active

Can be both

ohhhhhhh my b

Zenith

Can be both

so then still would go back to step 1

star

should mafia be more active or less active

i hope they're active so i can get more reads Sip

NOT Aeroyi

h uh

hiiiii you're back

star

so then still would go back to step 1

It depends on the playstyle actually Some mafias are just more active

if the mafia isnt active, then how would they know who to use their action on

11:16 a.m.

if the mafia understands the prod, they would try to be more active to not be kicked

huh

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zenew

so far seems to be more observant/more convos (since its d1 but at least they talk)/nothing much from zen until asked for reads --- gave reads -- mentioned inexperience in these kind games in msges

cabbate

-mvp lol -checks in from time to time (active) -gives a lot of info/gets the game going/kind of gives us a direction as to how to play and what not to do etc -gives reads whenever she can & encourages others to do so as well -all her reads have reasons supporting it and not just short/half-assed reasons --points-->conclusion

Ace!

seems new -- also townish -- just from the way they talk -- also they haven't spoken much today either

aeoliae

was just leaning for town until helvaria said smth -gives info about game/tells us what to avoid/mentioned poke voting strategy/explaining a bunch of stuff/also said to not out prs -poke voted zen but did not say anything -kind of just did that to accompany the poke voting mention in chat (?) -said they had to set things up to run a game soon (maybe that's why they're not talking now?) -asked about other's experience but never replied/talked about their experience ace! - 3 msges aeoliae - 9 msges is it normal for many players to be prodded or is it this game only??

My online mafia experience spans over 5 different websites and over 50 different games ~~the majority of which are losses~~ across the last 10 months I suppose I did forget to mention that

or they could simply be someone who talks enough to meet the prod message minimum

11:17 a.m.

then spend the rest of the time reading messages

Yeah can be Some can get prodded on purpose to make it seem that they are genuinely not available

If the mafia aren't active they can enjoy the wrath of the inactivity filter

11:18 a.m.

Imo

star

if the mafia isnt active, then how would they know who to use their action on

they can just lurk

thats what im saying

11:18 a.m.

they would just talk enough to meet the requirements to not get prodded

star

if the mafia understands the prod, they would try to be more active to not be kicked

i don't think helvaria even cares about the prod i don't get ittt

11:18 a.m.

oh

11:18 a.m.

they're typing

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

i don't think helvaria even cares about the prod i don't get ittt

there’s another type where mafia doesnt care about the prod until last moment

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

they can just lurk

Super easy to catch a "Dingo" mafia though

@NOT Aeroyi good to see you're here. Could you say something about the game that doesn't concern setup or general gameplay features?

zenith ig i have a question, why did u think it was smart to encourage pr claims here

Perhaps name a few people, while at it.

if uve played maf before

NOT Aeroyi

My online mafia experience spans over 5 different websites and over 50 different games ~~the majority of which are losses~~ across the last 10 months I suppose I did forget to mention that

ig you have the most experience playing mafia here then?

Helvaria

Perhaps name a few people, while at it.

you too

11:20 a.m.

thnx

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

ig you have the most experience playing mafia here then?

Yes

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

zenith ig i have a question, why did u think it was smart to encourage pr claims here

Real!!

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

zenith ig i have a question, why did u think it was smart to encourage pr claims here

It was my first game with prs in it so I wanted to divide the group in two to narrow down on possible false claims

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

zenith ig i have a question, why did u think it was smart to encourage pr claims here

did they say that

ta

11:21 a.m.

ya

Helvaria

@NOT Aeroyi good to see you're here. Could you say something about the game that doesn't concern setup or general gameplay features?

Um nothing's coming to mind rn

day 1

First group of people claiming citizens The other not claiming anything or pr

they said pr should claim

Zenith

It was my first game with prs in it so I wanted to divide the group in two to narrow down on possible false claims

wouldnt you expect mafias to claim that too?

It'd be pretty hard to claim prs

Zenith

It was my first game with prs in it so I wanted to divide the group in two to narrow down on possible false claims

but you've played with mafia bot which is filled with prs (?) -or maybe cuz its short games and they often ask ppl to claim

Yep it's shorter

11:21 a.m.

Can take such risks

NOT Aeroyi

Um nothing's coming to mind rn

11:22 a.m.

have you caught up with chat?

with the mafia bots?

star

wouldnt you expect mafias to claim that too?

I mean that was the point since they will have to claim either

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

have you caught up with chat?

Most of the time

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

extra reads on helvaria since they finally talked --i don't like how they don't bother to talk -isn't talking for most of the day and pops in for a bit (probably less than an hour) -doesn't add anything too much unless asked (eg. reasons for voting aeoliae) -seemed out of the blue to me before they gave a reason (gave a couple names, then said they're voting aeoliae & what about the others?) -but they could probably want aeoliae out because they're capable at mafia (maf wouldn't want someone capable to be in their way and prefer to vote them out first?/or maybe it would help later on so they won't seem to suddenly be sussing on aeoliae)/(if town then they know each other and aeoliae is usually actively helping as town but idk their relationship) -"i don't think we should vote...contributing reads..." may be an attempt to sound town and cuz town would be less likely to kill those who contribute reads especially when in contrast to those who don't show up much - but zen ace pixel (i think, iirc) have also given some reads -"no point killing them off now" kill? not vote? -star no evil - noted -"unfamiliar with how to play without night abilities" - how do you know they don't have night abilities? -why would evil be more familiar with the matrix -only reason they gave for being inactive is busy/don't feel like saying anything -reason for inactivity in EoD is timezone -i won't be active during EoD either cuz of timezone, but i still talk more ???

You have a lot of words about me. I'll reply to the following points: Star unfamiliar with night actions -> if you've been reading, star mentions that they don't understand how to find mafia without night actions, only as a citizen. Evil more familiar with matrix -> evils are able to discern which column of the matrix the game is. This is speculative, but I think that they would also have already looked through that column's setups. To do this, you would need knowledge of the matrix.

NOT Aeroyi

Most of the time

why's nothing coming to mind then catsit

Also when is eod

@NOT Aeroyi we are waiting on you.

In 2.5 hours

Shit

ace! ★

Also when is eod

these couple hours ig?

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why's nothing coming to mind then catsit

I've already commented on everything I've seen that I felt like commenting on

Y'all we need to figure out who to vote instead of running in circles

11:24 a.m.

I won't be here for 1030-1045

sharing reads would be helpful aeoliae bc u havent rly given any

I am leaning on people who are active but no real contributions

NOT Aeroyi

I've already commented on everything I've seen that I felt like commenting on

anything on other players?

Helvaria

You have a lot of words about me. I'll reply to the following points: Star unfamiliar with night actions -> if you've been reading, star mentions that they don't understand how to find mafia without night actions, only as a citizen. Evil more familiar with matrix -> evils are able to discern which column of the matrix the game is. This is speculative, but I think that they would also have already looked through that column's setups. To do this, you would need knowledge of the matrix.

what they are saying is kind of true Pepeeat

11:25 a.m.

but why are you continuously making a claim on me

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

anything on other players?

I think you and Star are town

Aeoliae, then who do you think we should vote?

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

sharing reads would be helpful aeoliae bc u havent rly given any

Kinda how I operate tbh

im unfamiliar with night actions because this is my first game with a lot of citizens

Helvaria

Aeoliae, then who do you think we should vote?

The only person I'd say I want to still vote on is Zen although Zenith might be just as good

Reason?

star

im unfamiliar with night actions because this is my first game with a lot of citizens

If you're unfamiliar with how to use them, contact the host/your mentor (if you have one)

i know how they work, but i was talking about citizens

Helvaria

Reason?

Probably just a playstyle difference

I sincerely regret not asking for a mentor ngl

hihi am here now

11:28 a.m.

didn't realise today was ending so soon

ace! ★

I sincerely regret not asking for a mentor ngl

i think they still are open for that

uhh lemme read up ig

i just meant, how are town citizens able to find out mafias

11:28 a.m.

since they cant do much besides use their way of talking to figure out

Helvaria

You have a lot of words about me. I'll reply to the following points: Star unfamiliar with night actions -> if you've been reading, star mentions that they don't understand how to find mafia without night actions, only as a citizen. Evil more familiar with matrix -> evils are able to discern which column of the matrix the game is. This is speculative, but I think that they would also have already looked through that column's setups. To do this, you would need knowledge of the matrix.

thanks for ignoring every other points point one - i have read that, but anyone could say that they are unfamiliar with this game, many ppl have said that they are citizen, do you trust all of them? i do not understand your second point, can you elaborate on that or put it in more simpler terms?

one more thing

ace! ★

Y'all we need to figure out who to vote instead of running in circles

fr im about to go to bed too

why does she keep claiming on me

11:29 a.m.

Zenith

I am leaning on people who are active but no real contributions

name some

star

why does she keep claiming on me

11:30 a.m.

they especially made a point for you too

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name some

Pixel for now

i saw

not much mention about others either lmao

Though they aren't too active but I am having trouble linking their messages with town

NOT Aeroyi

I think you and Star are town

lol why

am i that easy to make a claim on concerned

star

since they cant do much besides use their way of talking to figure out

yeah i think mafia is supposed to be a social deducting (?) game and prs (to me) are just additional roles to make it more fun and probably a more balanced game?

star

am i that easy to make a claim on concerned

lemme claim you Catongue

Zenith

Though they aren't too active but I am having trouble linking their messages with town

wdym by that?

ace! ★

I sincerely regret not asking for a mentor ngl

what can you do with a mentor?

11:34 a.m.

why is chat dead again ;-;

Just help with confirming thoughts

ooo they can do that?

11:34 a.m.

that would be nice

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

wdym by that?

Just a gut feeling but since I am not getting that same feeling from anyone else, I will keep that vote for now

Like if they agree that seems right not objective truth

Him being active now would have helped

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

what can you do with a mentor?

have them talk about how tired they are and how they haven't read on thread

11:38 a.m.

Helvaria seems to only be interested in interacting with aeoliae ngl meowdy

11:38 a.m.

just smth i noticed

Wait now that you mentioned it

11:39 a.m.

It makes sense

NOT Aeroyi

Kinda how I operate tbh

no giving reads then? pls? catsit

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yeah i think mafia is supposed to be a social deducting (?) game and prs (to me) are just additional roles to make it more fun and probably a more balanced game?

oh, but i change my playstyle every game catto_ohmy

not just who you think is town/not town but with reasons and stuff

Was there any reason specified for this switch?

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

lemme claim you Catongue

ofc!

Zenith

Was there any reason specified for this switch?

seems like a poke vote to me but idk

star

ofc!

omggg

Zenith

Was there any reason specified for this switch?

oh yeah helvaria said aeoliae was good at mafia game but did not contribute much

11:42 a.m.

just remembered

11:43 a.m.

how do they know

Maybe then it might be a coincidence

star

oh, but i change my playstyle every game catto_ohmy

what's your playstyle this time

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

what's your playstyle this time

straight up claiming FLUFFcry

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

Helvaria seems to only be interested in interacting with aeoliae ngl meowdy

help lmao

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

oh yeah helvaria said aeoliae was good at mafia game but did not contribute much

They aren't wrong. I am holding back.

star

straight up claiming FLUFFcry

lmaooo nice

why does that make them look like they're kinda infatuated with them

NOT Aeroyi

They aren't wrong. I am holding back.

why though

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

Helvaria seems to only be interested in interacting with aeoliae ngl meowdy

The third one is consistent with helvaria's reason for voting

but why would she vote aeoliae off

Zenith

The third one is consistent with helvaria's reason for voting

my point: helvaria didn't bother to talk earlier helvaria is interested to talk in chat now that aeoliae is in chat

I will have to iso helvaria

star

but why would she vote aeoliae off

one vote wouldn't make a big difference ig meowdy

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

why though

i assume bc half the lobby has never played which is more of a reason tk give more to me

ace! ★

i assume bc half the lobby has never played which is more of a reason tk give more to me

wdym by "which is more of a reason tk give more to me"

11:45 a.m.

15 mins till midnight

11:45 a.m.

gtg soon

sry catching a train rn LOL so ive been spotty

no worries

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

wdym by "which is more of a reason tk give more to me"

to make up for those who cant give too much? or lead more

Both votes by helvaria seems to be poke votes

Zenith

Both votes by helvaria seems to be poke votes

first one is def a poke vote

But a poke vote in the beginning seems a bit odd

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

why though

I want to see everyone else's gameplay unfettered

NOT Aeroyi

I want to see everyone else's gameplay unfettered

You must have some reads atleast

11:47 a.m.

Since you're observing

Zenith

But a poke vote in the beginning seems a bit odd

that's why i poke voted back

poke votes i think r p normal on day 1

NOT Aeroyi

I want to see everyone else's gameplay unfettered

when will you play fr

Zenith

You must have some reads atleast

They're mostly likely incorrect or just weak

Still any contributions are welcome

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

when will you play fr

After I get my first aid certification

11:48 a.m.

~2 days

Since we are all a bit unsure

i mean i shared a schizo esque conspiracy theory i feel like its never a bad thing to share reads

we love schizo posts

NOT Aeroyi

They're mostly likely incorrect or just weak

none of us know which reads could be right/wrong

11:49 a.m.

we could just discuss

11:49 a.m.

or have a topic to go on maybe

i still stand by my theory tho that was a paired interaction idc!

like, having different views would be nice

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i still stand by my theory tho that was a paired interaction idc!

did i miss smth

oh lemme

11:50 a.m.

link

NOT Aeroyi

~2 days

so.. day 2?

11:50 a.m.

oh the zenith and pixel one

11:50 a.m.

?

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ok so i feel more confident in this read now after the responses so im putting it here. this interaction SCREAMS that pixel/zenith are paired in some way in the game. the moment pixel comes in and asks a simple question zenith immediately warns him ab the prod which ig can be in good faith. but this is what bothers me ab the interaction

the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake.
zenith has never interacted with any other user like this other than pixelad. i read thru their posts and theyve never warned any other players of getting pushed. theyve only ever interacted and given advice/help to pixelad so far
“just a single prod so shouldnt harm much” reads as sooooo scummy to me like wdym it shouldnt harm much? if ur town, pushes r something that benefit the game, u want to talk about why people are getting pushed and what theyve said to solve them lastly and what encouraged me to make this post is the moment zenith responded and came online, pixelad suddenly appears literally a minute after them out of nowhere. everytime pixelad has appeared today its been right after zenith speaks in chat. this just screams paired interaction and im leaning towards it being scummy

this

mhm

oop now that u remind me of that

11:51 a.m.

zenith's been trying to distance themselves from pixel lol

I really don't see much in it but some of your points are valid

yupp

11:51 a.m.

and pixel did the same

11:51 a.m.

when i first posted it

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

and pixel did the same

did they

also wait afk

oh

11:51 a.m.

yes

Zen

also wait afk

?

did you like talk much at all yday?

yesterday?

11:51 a.m.

uhh lemme check

11:51 a.m.

i did talk

i don't remeber aanything u said but today you've been like blasting so much info

Did you read my clarification on that btw?

11:52 a.m.

im pretty sure i sent at least 20msges to not get prodded

shjshj

11:52 a.m.

oops

Zenith

Did you read my clarification on that btw?

yes but remind me?

It was actually a test

Zen

i don't remeber aanything u said but today you've been like blasting so much info

ok mainly cuz there's more in chat

11:53 a.m.

and i've been replying to chat everytime i get online

11:53 a.m.

like

11:53 a.m.

i try to read chat and find msges i can reply to

To see his reaction to getting prodded after a few players suggested that the mafia can claim citizens early to look towny

just so happens that today there's more stuff that i can say

Zenith

To see his reaction to getting prodded after a few players suggested that the mafia can claim citizens early to look towny

oh yeah we had that convo earlier kinda

yeah we did

i don't get the reaction to prodded thing though

what bothers me tho is

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

just so happens that today there's more stuff that i can say

fairs

doesn't seem to give much info

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

i don't get the reaction to prodded thing though

to be more active

when i initially asked u why u did thay zenith

11:54 a.m.

u had diff reasoning

I did?

yep lemme get it

Sure

Oh yeah

11:55 a.m.

It was because he was there

"trying to be active when i can" -- pls be active more

I didn't want to let him know that I suspected him at first

11:55 a.m.

I wanted a more natural reaction

Zenith

I didn't want to let him know that I suspected him at first

they can always read chat

11:56 a.m.

anyways gn all

Yeah but I kind of lean them already

oh

Good Night

can't talk anymore tmr since its night time

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

i don't get the reaction to prodded thing though

i admit that im talking just to meet the minimum for prods because last game i didn’t know it existed and also got outted (was mafia) kittyshy2

what exacrly were u

11:56 a.m.

trying to test for that

star

i admit that im talking just to meet the minimum for prods because last game i didn’t know it existed and also got outted (was mafia) kittyshy2

almost got outted*

star

i admit that im talking just to meet the minimum for prods because last game i didn’t know it existed and also got outted (was mafia) kittyshy2

oop- i just think that since i signed up for this game i shouldn't be too inactive yk

I wanted to see if the prod was intentional or not

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

trying to test for that

fr

Like I said earlier

Zenith

I wanted to see if the prod was intentional or not

what if it was

11:57 a.m.

doesn't rly prove much

Some mafias can use prods to look genuinely inactive

you have no issues with helvariah

Well two points

11:57 a.m.

First it was an early claim

11:58 a.m.

I wanted to test that theory

11:58 a.m.

And then the prod

11:58 a.m.

I mean he was active enough to post 20 messages if he wanted to

idk if you're just new or have a lot of theories that don't rly prove anything

11:59 a.m.

maybe i just don't get your point

The reaction was indifference to that prod

ok if thats the case, why interact w the person prodded and not the person (me) who prodded in the first place

11:59 a.m.

bc it seems like ud be trying to test me more than pixel if that ur logic no

11:59 a.m.

thats*

I don't really understand you there

12:00 p.m.

You prodded him?

Zenith

I wanted to see if the prod was intentional or not

i was the one who prodded them no

12:00 p.m.

yes

???

I didn't pay attention to that tbh

im confused

Are you a mod?

wait wdym by prod like i threw

12:00 p.m.

sus on pixel

huh

first

isn't prod the warning

thats what im talking ab

for inactivity

LMFAO NVM

Prod means that warning for inactivity

IM DUMB

12:00 p.m.

Lol it's alright

i was mad confused

You really got me wandering there

WHAT DID UOU TBK M JR WAA

lmfao

12:01 p.m.

anyways gn cya'll d2

Good night afk

ace coming in to contribute nothing again yay :D

12:01 p.m.

gngn

ace! ★

WHAT DID UOU TBK M JR WAA

speak human

Sorry jesus

12:02 p.m.

I will (hopefully ) be more of use tmr tho. Bc I am going to be busy at 10.

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

speak human

Oh u were asking me to translate. “what did you think it was"

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ace coming in to contribute nothing again yay :D

real tho-- sorry i was rlly busy w ma76

12:04 p.m.

guys

12:04 p.m.

we need really need to get an actuall agreement here

12:04 p.m.

what are yalls top 2? or 3? mafia

There might be some recency bias involved but ace your game is matching your last one where were mafia

uh huh

Which, in fact, just ended

sureee dude

12:08 p.m.

im not acting confused and seness and following blind reads for no reason

12:08 p.m.

senseless**

Well you weren't there either (d1)

i litterlay was??

You weren't

12:09 p.m.

It's hard to sort it now but I am pretty sure

Zenith

Well you weren't there either (d1)

*weren't following blind reads

also

12:10 p.m.

i had finals

12:10 p.m.

ehich i explained

Well I don't suspect you enough time to vote for you

12:10 p.m.

I was just putting it there

if you get me voted out i will bully you in soec chat

Lol

12:11 p.m.

Sure if you turn out town and I become the reason for your lynching

worse. imagine im a pr

A pr wouldn't make that statement

yeah but i was also very loosly joking

My sense of sarcasm is betraying me then lol

12:13 p.m.

Nw you're still null for me

ace! ★

what are yalls top 2? or 3? mafia

still i need top 2 or 3

I haven't looked much into it to form a top 3

too 2 at least?

I have a top 2 but that depends on the result of n1

b/c if there is tracker it might help who they track

12:14 p.m.

depending on what people say

Yeah that can help

what does neighbor do?

I need to check

bc if we have tracker then we have them--- also mason

Can be doctor

yeah but ik what they do

12:16 p.m.

uh doctor and tracker is

ace! ★

WHAT DID UOU TBK M JR WAA

very clear and in depth msg on our situation

honestly smth k dont want

12:16 p.m.

bc if tracker tracks doc itll eb messy

12:16 p.m.

+ maf could lie

I am curious how visiting town roles will act out in long games

12:17 p.m.

Since even honest claims can get overshadowed

are we just going over what set ups we hope it is? wut

12:17 p.m.

sorry am also busy in another org where a lot is going on tn

12:17 p.m.

so i'm kinda having to jump in and out

It's alright Zen Good luck with that

also if its tracker its not double goon

Zenith

It's alright Zen Good luck with that

tyyy tyy

Zen

are we just going over what set ups we hope it is? wut

im going to go over setups.

12:23 p.m.

in genral

12:23 p.m.

but i have a very strong feeling tracker is here

12:23 p.m.

jusy gut ig?

ooo?

12:24 p.m.

tracker

12:24 p.m.

so

12:24 p.m.

that's

12:24 p.m.

A or B only right

12:25 p.m.

if there is a tracker like u feel

12:25 p.m.

but also

12:25 p.m.

i don't

12:25 p.m.

really get ur feeling

12:25 p.m.

but maybe that's just me

this js what it would be

Zen

really get ur feeling

just liek how on a test you feel it might be C and it is; just gut feeling

oh fairs

12:27 p.m.

hm well

12:27 p.m.

we only have

12:27 p.m.

1 and a half hour right

12:27 p.m.

so we

12:27 p.m.

probs

12:27 p.m.

should

12:28 p.m.

do something abt finding a vote

yeah

12:29 p.m.

me personally i find Hel/Zenith suspisous

12:29 p.m.

not team tho bc idk yet

…. Guys

12:41 p.m.

1 hour as 15 minuete left

12:41 p.m.

Can we please gets vote

There are no clear reads yet

ace! ★

me personally i find Hel/Zenith suspisous

You should vote for people you find suspicious Make sure to drop an explanation for later reference

Zenith

There are no clear reads yet

There needs to be soon

Zenith

You should vote for people you find suspicious Make sure to drop an explanation for later reference

For hel the image afk sent earlier For you the whole “prs claim” thing

12:44 p.m.

And just wantingclaims this early seems weird

A random lynching from current suspects is still better than completely random lynching

ace! ★

And just wantingclaims this early seems weird

Yeah it was a weird call

12:44 p.m.

A logical error from my end which I explained twice already

bleh

12:46 p.m.

i feel like

12:46 p.m.

hel

12:46 p.m.

could be a goody

12:46 p.m.

but they have like

12:46 p.m.

such an

12:46 p.m.

unproductive town mindset if so

I feel the same

12:47 p.m.

But it has been pretty consistent tbh

12:48 p.m.

Words are matching actions but definitely nothing that can't be faked by a masterful mafia

12:48 p.m.

I wonder if masterful is even the right word to use there

I think any good mafia cna he consist

12:49 p.m.

Ent

12:49 p.m.

Or any mafia

Well since the town is probably lynching him anyway, we will know

This doesn't feel right but.. Who knows?

I can't defend or push hel rn

12:51 p.m.

And I am not confident in my vote either

i wont vote just yet

With the random lynching rule, might as well use your vote

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

so.. day 2?

Yes

Don't feel pressured if a vote ends up in a mislynch rn

Its d1 if we hit maf that's wild

Yep that would be great

12:54 p.m.

There's a likelihood of it being in our current votes must be

12:54 p.m.

No "must be" there

Hi im awake

1:01 p.m.

wsg

Day ends in 1 hour

also damn zenith really did get paired with pixel

1:09 p.m.

then voted them

1:10 p.m.

uhh

1:10 p.m.

but we don't have time huh

Yeah well I kind of get why they paired me with him

uhuh

1:10 p.m.

but why the vote

I was testing him and I feel I don't feel I can vote anyone else

1:11 p.m.

If anything, that would be him

Zenith

I was testing him and I feel I don't feel I can vote anyone else

What is this sentence lol

1:11 p.m.

I feel I don't feel

1:11 p.m.

Probably sums up my confusion

1:12 p.m.

It's still pretty much taking shots in the dark

1:12 p.m.

For some reason this game has not progressed as much as the hydra game d1

1:12 p.m.

Which is a surprise since that was an all citizen game

Zenith

For some reason this game has not progressed as much as the hydra game d1

probs cuz this is newcomer que

1:14 p.m.

and people here are newer

1:14 p.m.

well

1:14 p.m.

except

1:14 p.m.

the people

Oh yeah right

who aren't

1:14 p.m.

sobs

1:14 p.m.

lmao

That could be it

1:14 p.m.

I totally forgot it's a newcomer game lol

yeahhhh

1:15 p.m.

hmm

1:15 p.m.

i act have no clue who i wanna vote tho

1:15 p.m.

like hel coudl just have

1:15 p.m.

bad mentality

It won't be too bad for the town with hel out in that case

zenith is a bit off to me in some things the say (no offense) but a lot of people read them as town lead so maybe am just weird

1:16 p.m.

and like

1:16 p.m.

ace is

1:16 p.m.

something

Nah it's alright to think that tbh

1:16 p.m.

I have played a risky game till now

pat pat

1:16 p.m.

hmm

1:19 p.m.

and pixel gives me good vibes

1:19 p.m.

but that might just be

1:19 p.m.

cuz

1:19 p.m.

i find them funny

Could be

1:20 p.m.

I am like 55-45 mafia leaning them but that's the highest figure for me personally

1:20 p.m.

I really don't know what to read those reactions as

1:21 p.m.

That prod felt intentional

1:22 p.m.

yea i think i'm just gonna settle on voting zenith for now

1:22 p.m.

idk i think maybe hel is more logical tho

1:22 p.m.

but ur just

1:22 p.m.

off

1:22 p.m.

to meee

Yeah I am definitely off lol

sobs don't agree with me

1:23 p.m.

now i feel bad hjsh

1:23 p.m.

lmao

Nah that's just I can see your point despite knowing lol

1:23 p.m.

Also I should probably change my name...

lmaoo

1:23 p.m.

we are kinda samey

1:23 p.m.

but it's fine

People can confuse us

1:24 p.m.

I mean I can use Orion too

i mean do you use any other names?

1:24 p.m.

oh funky

That is like part of my username

i mean tbh idt it should be too big of an issue

I just hope it's not against the rules to change usernames midgame

but fair faiirs

Since I changed my pfp recently

1:25 p.m.

I will probably think about it later

1:25 p.m.

Don't want people to confuse me for someone else entirely

validd

1:25 p.m.

only 30 mins left

1:25 p.m.

and we're still missing votes too

Yeah

@star and @Pixelad3 (sry)

Pixel was here Should have voted

well is easy to forget ngl

Yeah

1:26 p.m.

Probably forgot it's eod

mhm

1:27 p.m.

yeah no

1:27 p.m.

when i first checked discord today

1:27 p.m.

i saw

1:27 p.m.

3 hours left

1:27 p.m.

and was shooketh

1:27 p.m.

lmao

1:27 p.m.

then i was busy with my org and work calls for most of the time

1:27 p.m.

so rip

laga

Org

star

laga

wut

the announcement

huh

1:29 p.m.

am so llost

1:29 p.m.

lol

the 5 way tie

ohh

1:31 p.m.

yea

Like

1:38 p.m.

22 min

star

laga

I could always vote zenith and make it a 6 way

It would be two way then

1:49 p.m.

Nah

1:49 p.m.

I will be lynched

No??

1:52 p.m.

Ur not zenew right

nono i'm zenew

1:53 p.m.

also wait woah

1:53 p.m.

@Pixelad3

1:53 p.m.

?

1:53 p.m.

silent vote

.. Never mind then;

Zen

@Pixelad3

hi

I was going to vote zenny boy anyway

I didnt know who else to vote rlly

ace! ★

I was going to vote zenny boy anyway

In case you end up lynching me Here's my top 2

lmao

I'm exited to see how gets murdered

Pixel aeoliae

1:54 p.m.

Another game Another mislynch

1:54 p.m.

Good luck town

damn

1:55 p.m.

now i feel bad

Imagine he flips scum lol

ig worst case

1:57 p.m.

we're at least probs not voting a pr off?

Nah not a pr

since they didn't like use that

1:57 p.m.

oof

1:58 p.m.

zenith

1:58 p.m.

from one zen to another

I already dropped my top sls for now

pat pat

Thanks

1:58 p.m.

Good luck with this game Ze n

Zenith

I already dropped my top sls for now

Im trying not to talk after you bc it made me look weird last time

Zenith

Good luck with this game Ze n

tyy and am sorri

Which is dumb bc those were all coincidences

Yeah sure valid btw

Zen

tyy and am sorri

It's alright

1:59 p.m.

As long as the town wins

EOD

SOD 2

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-06-25 12:54 a.m.

Morning everyone!

Spicy

hoiii

Does anyone know what the message for doctor visiting would be?

2:03 p.m.

Cuz I was visited

2:03 p.m.

Just god knows who.!

hi im so sorry i was out in nyc and missed the last like hour LOL

Its all good

ace! ★

Cuz I was visited

cap

2:11 p.m.

u dont get messages if u were visited, just confirmed with mods

I was tho!

2:11 p.m.

I tracked hel

why r u claiming that

Bc

2:11 p.m.

It didn't say if they were neighbor /town

2:11 p.m.

So

2:11 p.m.

They are either doc

2:12 p.m.

Or a rolecop who'd dinr kill me

2:12 p.m.

Bc if I was jailkeeper it wouldn't work

2:12 p.m.

Same w roleblocker

2:12 p.m.

So there's a huge chance I'm dying tonight either way

2:13 p.m.

If I don't claim they might be role cop

2:13 p.m.

And I dktn want to take that chance

2:14 p.m.

+ I said that I suspect them so why would they EVER heal me

ace! ★

If I don't claim they might be role cop

now since i did killing me would only make them and their team look worse. if i die it clears hel, and the person thst i cant think of off the top of my head people think is their partner.

2:18 p.m.

... does that ramble make any sense

couldnt have hel also j been the mafia that tried to kill u and u got docced by someone else

that cpuld also be it

2:20 p.m.

So they cluld be Maf; and someone doctored me. or they could be Rc who investigated but didnt killz or ; neigbor

2:22 p.m.

also if its the second i dont see a reason to not proetect me so i can track another person before deathz

2:22 p.m.

but since it worked --- like i said; we Deffinatly have a rolecop

2:25 p.m.

woudl hel be put best bote for now

2:25 p.m.

considering this

hold up what

huh

OK HI HELLO

3:00 p.m.

Uhhh for the record I voted venith bc what camryn and zen were saying were making me heavily doubt my town read for him

ace! ★

considering this

Whag

hi

hello

hii

Well this is depressing

6:49 p.m.

@ace! ★ have you ever wondered why there were no kills last night?

6:50 p.m.

Yep, it's me, the doctor, congratulations, you found me!

ace! ★

+ I said that I suspect them so why would they EVER heal me

Because your softing was just soooo obvious. At the start of day, you immediately said something about checking people. Then, started setup speculating, saying that you were pretty sure tracker is here.

6:53 p.m.

Anyways, since you've already outed yourself, I suppose there's no harm in saying this anymore.

6:53 p.m.

I was quite determined that star was not evil yesterday because star setup speculation made 0 sense, and we now know that it's completely wrong.

6:53 p.m.

I knew this yesterday, I'm sure you did too.

ftr i forgot to change my vote bc i was traveling to nyc but i did intend to

Sorry but who healed who what's going on with the lurcher

I healed ace

7:29 p.m.

And in repayment, my role was revealed and they think I'm mafia

NOT Aeroyi

Sorry but who healed who what's going on with the lurcher

What's the lurcher

Helvaria

What's the lurcher

Remove the lurcher hype strats???

???

Helvaria

And in repayment, my role was revealed and they think I'm mafia

in so sorry <\3 B out in my defense—- I already thought you were maf

Helvaria

I was quite determined that star was not evil yesterday because star setup speculation made 0 sense, and we now know that it's completely wrong.

oopies

8:57 p.m.

that means we are at 1 goon and 1 roleblocker

9:01 p.m.

i had the wrong idea so i had to ask laga

9:01 p.m.

star

that means we are at 1 goon and 1 roleblocker

i meant rolecop not blocker

Anyways, while I wasn't awake yesterday, you guys went and voted zenith, who I specifically said not to vote.

9:05 p.m.

This is very disappointing.

9:05 p.m.

I think I should make myself clearer,

9:06 p.m.

Out of 3 - Aeoliae, zenew, and pixel (ace is not here anymore for obvious reasons), I am certain that at least 1, likely 2, are evil. We should lynch one of these 3 today.

9:07 p.m.

So, I have a task for you 3, @NOT Aeroyi @Zen @Pixelad3 , tell me which of the other 2 members pinged you think is the best vote today.

9:07 p.m.

Detailed reasons are recommended

9:08 p.m.

I look forward to your responses.

Helvaria

Out of 3 - Aeoliae, zenew, and pixel (ace is not here anymore for obvious reasons), I am certain that at least 1, likely 2, are evil. We should lynch one of these 3 today.

Explain how you have determined this conclusion and then maybe I'll play your game

Sure

9:11 p.m.

Everyone else is town

9:11 p.m.

We have 2 confirmed pr - me, ace

Helvaria

Everyone else is town

huh?

9:13 p.m.

there are 8 players

Helvaria

We have 2 confirmed pr - me, ace

How are you two confirmed

2 of the most townie individuals - Camryn, afk, why would an evil try to revive a dead chat?

Bc I tracked hel

9:13 p.m.

And hell doctored me

And 1 person who has no clue what's going on - star

elaborate

9:13 p.m.

but

I am certain, in you 3, at least one is evil, probably 2.

Helvaria

And 1 person who has no clue what's going on - star

I don't do purity but they do genuinely seem to be upset when they do something wrong generally

Helvaria

I am certain, in you 3, at least one is evil, probably 2.

What if I feel that all three of us are town and that there's a decent chance that the PRs are fake?

Is there anyone counter claiming?

9:16 p.m.

Or are you attempting to?

pl + 1

?

I'm going to consider what's going on first

I think I was pretty clear alld ay I had some sort of pr

Helvaria

So, I have a task for you 3, @NOT Aeroyi @Zen @Pixelad3 , tell me which of the other 2 members pinged you think is the best vote today.

Hm

9:18 p.m.

Zen I guess??

9:18 p.m.

Idk

Reasons are recommended.

Idk theyre js the one I trust the least but thats just by like. 1%

why zen

idk my head hurts

9:23 p.m.

dehydrrated

also one more thing i do wanna note

9:23 p.m.

before zenith got lynched

9:23 p.m.

he suspected that pixel and aeoliae was his top 2

why is everyone suspecting me-

9:26 p.m.

oh one more thing

9:27 p.m.

you noted that aeoliae might be a pr

Pixelad3

Aeoliae - Town Maybe??? IDK they could have a PR Zenith - Also Town, but I feel slightly more sure abt it Zenew - No clue Helvaria - Also no clue (edited)

over here

9:29 p.m.

one more funny thing

9:30 p.m.

you claimed that zenith might also be town, but you voted him for lynch yesterday

9:31 p.m.

plus zen voted too

Yea

star

you claimed that zenith might also be town, but you voted him for lynch yesterday

Again what zen and camryn were saying were starting to make me doubt my town read for him

1:09 a.m.

And I honestly had no clue who else to vote

its 10 pm I need to sleep

but it makes me concerned because camryn did not vote zenith

Pixelad3

its 10 pm I need to sleep

good night

1:10 a.m.

sleep well

nitr

1:10 a.m.

nite

1:10 a.m.

I’ll talk more tmrw

5:40 a.m.

im literally just speechless

Helvaria

Because your softing was just soooo obvious. At the start of day, you immediately said something about checking people. Then, started setup speculating, saying that you were pretty sure tracker is here.

its not even softing anymore

Good to see you're here afk.

6:05 a.m.

Yeah it was so funny to watch

ace! ★

but i have a very strong feeling tracker is here

Just a strong feeling

Helvaria

So, I have a task for you 3, @NOT Aeroyi @Zen @Pixelad3 , tell me which of the other 2 members pinged you think is the best vote today.

@Zen it would be nice if you responded to this.

NOT Aeroyi

I'm going to consider what's going on first

It's been nearly 10 hours. Are you done considering?

main posts by Pixelad3 (ignore me i just want to skip all the fluff posts)

7:32 a.m.

what camryn said on zenith: -zenith/pixelad3 interaction (pixel has no reason to vote on zenith for this) -encouraging pr claims

7:34 a.m.

zen: -agreed on zenith/pixelad3 (?) -"zenith is a bit off to me in some things"

7:40 a.m.

pixel showed up 1 hour before d1 ended and the only other ppl who were in chat in that hour were ace zen zenith and star star did not vote - only showed up to say there's a 5 way tie then disappeared zenith had their vote on pixel for some time since then zen voted zenith first followed by pixel - "silent vote" then ace

7:41 a.m.

7:47 a.m.

i don't find anything important or worth noting from zen other than they seem to only have zenith as a suspect ig? their comments on others seem to not have mentioned suspecting anyone other than zenith, idk

7:51 a.m.

camryn said she was busy - no time to vote or smth along the lines camryn voted on star around 24 hours before d1 ended (if im not wrong) camryn's read on zenith/pixel was 9 hours after voting star that leaves.. 13 hours to change votes?

7:51 a.m.

idk if my maths was correct

7:51 a.m.

but that's still plenty of time

7:52 a.m.

and cabbate had the time to ask zenith about their initial response

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ftr i forgot to change my vote bc i was traveling to nyc but i did intend to

okok just saw this

7:58 a.m.

nothing much to say on camryn rn other than some small stuff like how they interacted with ace

7:59 a.m.

just waiting on aeoliae to throw their reads in since its d2

I also think @camryn (✿◠‿◠) should contribute their reads, or other relevant insights. (Or conspiracy theories)

hihi

9:47 a.m.

i mean i

9:47 a.m.

drank the night before

9:47 a.m.

and then i went to nyc w a friend the day after

9:47 a.m.

im not lying ab being busy irl thats lame

9:47 a.m.

9:48 a.m.

and why would i push so hard for something i knew was wrong if i was scum i legit believed what i was saying

yeye dw about it don't cryyy

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

im not lying ab being busy irl thats lame

i did see ur msges about drinking and going to nyc but idk when u meant by "last night" cuz of timezones so i kind of just ignored that; for the nyc part its like ur busy irl so its pretty easy to forget to switch votes

uhhh from like 12 am est - 3 am est i drank

10:21 a.m.

woke up at 11 am got on train at 12 pm got in nyc at 1 pm

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

yeye dw about it don't cryyy

IM CRYING IM SOBBING

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

IM CRYING IM SOBBING

noooo

idk i j genuinely had the wrong read there but i wanted to push something bc no one was saying anything at the time and from the info i had the interaction between zenith and pixel looked suspicious

10:25 a.m.

but ig zenith j typed strangely

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

woke up at 11 am got on train at 12 pm got in nyc at 1 pm

what time is EOD/SOD for you?

2 pm

10:25 a.m.

est

ohh

10:25 a.m.

okok that makes it easier for me to convert time

i j was unfortunately rly busy during that eod

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

camryn said she was busy - no time to vote or smth along the lines camryn voted on star around 24 hours before d1 ended (if im not wrong) camryn's read on zenith/pixel was 9 hours after voting star that leaves.. 13 hours to change votes?

ight so updates on this is --> after reading zenith/pixel --> sleep --> woke up near eod --> was busy --> no votes

ya i like fully intended to change my vote i said it in the chat but deadass forgot

10:30 a.m.

i mean i probs woulda voted zenith which was wrong anyways

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

idk i j genuinely had the wrong read there but i wanted to push something bc no one was saying anything at the time and from the info i had the interaction between zenith and pixel looked suspicious

yeah, kind of hard to make a lot of reads especially d1 plus maf probably laid low (maybe jumped on zenith's wagon at eod if they were present?)

10:32 a.m.

just a random thought

10:35 a.m.

@NOT Aeroyi

@Zen @NOT Aeroyi Stalling does not help your case.

i have no life catsit

11:35 a.m.

don't think we got much progress today

11:35 a.m.

gonna go sleep soon

1:02 p.m.

i said i didnt vote because i had no suspicions yet

bam

1:26 p.m.

been busyy all day

1:26 p.m.

lemme read up asap

1:27 p.m.

we still have another 24hrs right?

1:27 p.m.

@Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

1:32 p.m.

tyty

1:32 p.m.

okay

1:32 p.m.

but

1:32 p.m.

so

1:32 p.m.

ace claimed tracker

1:32 p.m.

kinda

1:33 p.m.

and then saw hel visit them?

1:35 p.m.

okay wait but i'm still confused how hel is confirmed

1:36 p.m.

oh well no matter what we never vote hel here cuz of circumstances

Helvaria

So, I have a task for you 3, @NOT Aeroyi @Zen @Pixelad3 , tell me which of the other 2 members pinged you think is the best vote today.

for this tho i do see ur logic hel cuz everyone else does seem safe so even if ur evil there is probs 1 evil between us 3?

1:40 p.m.

bleh idk which one tho

1:41 p.m.

if you didnt see

1:41 p.m.

she claimed doc

i did

1:41 p.m.

but

1:42 p.m.

wouldn't the mafia killing also get tracked back to ace?

1:42 p.m.

and if they aren't doc then real doc wouldn't wanna claim either

1:42 p.m.

cuz

1:42 p.m.

u know

1:42 p.m.

then they're outed

1:43 p.m.

cuz then hel trades 2f1 instead of 1f1

1:43 p.m.

but either way tho

1:43 p.m.

idt we'd ever vote hel cuz of the chance they are doc

1:43 p.m.

right?

1:44 p.m.

better to be safe abt ti

1:45 p.m.

oh right i got distracted

1:45 p.m.

but

1:45 p.m.

the the

1:46 p.m.

of pixel or aeoliae

1:47 p.m.

i don't really have much reason to suspect one over the other

1:47 p.m.

but pixel to me

1:47 p.m.

seems

1:47 p.m.

like an awkward but real town

1:48 p.m.

so yeah less reason to vote against aeo and more just i don't think pixel is the right vote at least

1:48 p.m.

anyways

1:48 p.m.

that's enough talking to myself

1:48 p.m.

sorry for the bits of inactivity y'all

hi hi hi

Zen

sorry for the bits of inactivity y'all

Same here

ok

I got a server to run and VA work to do

2:31 p.m.

I am trying to be active when I can tho

I'm going to get prodded

2:49 p.m.

ugh

welp

ugh

2:55 p.m.

okayy

2:55 p.m.

time to tryhard

i was peacefully sleeping yesterday

2:55 p.m.

been at work ftr!

NOT Aeroyi

time to tryhard

yupp

Let's start from the start

3:17 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254135948699107338 does follow up later: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254182005722316841

Zenith

To get this game going, let's start off by claiming roles to spot inconsistencies. I am town citizen.

Unfortunate that this slot was town

Pixelad3

I am also a town citizen

lack of hesitance to claim is probably >rand wolf (more likely wolf)

ace! ★

twinsies!!

Probably not w/w but this is more likely someone copying someone else's actions because they are unsure how to act/are without guidance. >Rand town

star

im also a town citizen

I'm not going to continue reading into the vanilla (citizen) claims

ok

ace! ★

Or someone has a pr and is lying about being citizen for the sake of survival and being usful

yes that is a possibility and

ace! ★

I am so not talking about my self rn!!

This is a blatant PR soft

star

we cant really check if we are regular citizens?

??? Off-putting

Zenith

It is revealed in private channel

Oh

3:20 p.m.

Star wolfslipped

3:20 p.m.

Okay that's 1/2 caught

NOT Aeroyi

lack of hesitance to claim is probably >rand wolf (more likely wolf)

No I’m just gullible

Fairly certain Star wolf

ugh

oop ok

How do I vote again

ill vite every star in the sky so ik ill be right

are they putting it on me to get my lynched

3:21 p.m.

then kill doc and tracker

ace! ★

If someones tracker they can track down of the of the misc ones or one of the odd ones out

Why would they do that though

then mafia wins

3:21 p.m.

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Yes, you really did

/ vote player:[username]

3:21 p.m.

Thats how

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um

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Um

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Uummmm

um

3:22 p.m.

yeah

I’ll vote star too

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(because it's a flawed srategy)

well ok

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thank u

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Yes

i think mafia on their move now

3:22 p.m.

uh huh

NOT Aeroyi

How do I vote again

/ vote player:[username]

in #ne70-vote

they getting accused so now they are voting me off

3:23 p.m.

because im the most sus apparently

star

they getting accused so now they are voting me off

I'm getting to you

3:23 p.m.

but I think you perspective slipped on d1

well ok

star

they getting accused so now they are voting me off

Whos getting accused?

good play

3:24 p.m.

please do lynch me

I'll get to more evidence later

3:25 p.m.

trying not to confbias though

why do you want to be lynched so bad

because im lazy to read to make assumptions

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

im town citizen btw but legit everyone is gonna be claiming that so it doesnt rly glean us any info

Wait whattttt???????

Youve asked us to lynch you on several occasions

3:25 p.m.

(iirc)

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

im town citizen btw but legit everyone is gonna be claiming that so it doesnt rly glean us any info

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254182005722316841 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254182160525430914 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254183186687197287 Continuity error spotted

star

because im lazy to read to make assumptions

Same but at least I try somewhat

star

how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen

this is worded weirdly as well

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

yea i j think rn we need to follow along w chat and keep live discussion going

I like the pushing for + activity that's going on here

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ya but us as town NOT TALKING is even worse for us winning like we cant form reads if convos dont happen LOL

THANK YOU

NOT Aeroyi

this is worded weirdly as well

i mean how do we get evidence if we are plain town citizens

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

yuh legit everyone j claims vt here LOL like its a fruitless endeavor

Makes sense tbh

someone said to guess

Zenith

Maybe we can try this with one mafia down

How does that... even remotely work

star

i think we also have to vote someone off tonight

Yes, that's how the game works

more reasons to suspect aeoliae

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i mean ill just throw out a read, p sure zenith is town. i dont necessarily agree w some of their ideas/gameplan but their ideas seem to stem from lack of experience and the way they r pushing them j reads as pure town

tbh I'm feeling this now unfortunately

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

the days start at 2am for me so i won't be talking for the first 8-18 hours(ish) after a day starts im not sure

Oh

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I want to say this is +wolf

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I wouldn't since you said it but okay

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

They aren't living very long that's for sure

jesus cheist i opened my phome to 8 pings

3:29 p.m.

lol

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uh derpclear attempt?

NOT Aeroyi

I wouldn't since you said it but okay

yeah; i know tyoicallg if im mafia i want to be the first to claim.

3:29 p.m.

not second

3:29 p.m.

or 3rd

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

jesus cheist i opened my phome to 8 pings

aeoliae is back reading after getting suspected

bc peole tend to expect last most if maf

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yeah it is kinda confusing but I think it's just standard matrix semi-open

NOT Aeroyi

uh derpclear attempt?

ya this is weird LOL

healing is protecting right

3:30 p.m.

it's like stopping kills and all that

yes

shouldnt you know?

3:30 p.m.

you’re a pro anyways?

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idk why I brought this up because it just seems so... blatant to be that way

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Huh? TMI?

what even is 1c or 2c

3:31 p.m.

ph no

Yeah no the mafia is just star and probably the other person that starts with an H

not at sll

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this seems fake

lol

NOT Aeroyi

Yeah no the mafia is just star and probably the other person that starts with an H

didnt hel claim doc

i already said

3:31 p.m.

lynch if wanted

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254314647528411146 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254183219142725732 This looks like a continuity error

but when i get lynched and my rolecard is in place

3:32 p.m.

youll know whose lying

ace! ★

didnt hel claim doc

i mesn they coudlve lied and someoen esle be doc or be role cop

star

shouldnt you know?

I play on different sites. Healers/protection roles are refered to as doctors/healers/lurchers depending on where you go

ace! ★

i mesn they coudlve lied and someoen esle be doc or be role cop

I wouldn't put it past them. They seem quite skilled and I have a huge respect for their play regardless of their alignment

ace! ★

i mesn they coudlve lied and someoen esle be doc or be role cop

bc i didnr get a neighbor note. so either they are doc, maf , ans soemoen else healed , or rc

star

but when i get lynched and my rolecard is in place

If you like getting lynched so much just vote urself lmao

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makes sense tbh

Pixelad3

If you like getting lynched so much just vote urself lmao

why

3:35 p.m.

you’re scared they might not believe im mafia?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254400393673183232 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254400721970008117 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254400818656968806 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254401031916490794 reads as not paired but also not a difference check

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strange conclusion

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They have, although I feel that they partially are just starved for interactions

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what's the org community

ace! ★

bc i didnr get a neighbor note. so either they are doc, maf , ans soemoen else healed , or rc

if i die tonight its probably hel. or someone trying to make it look liek them. bc if they were rc ans investigated me foudn orh im tracker and plan to kill me tonight. + if i was mafia id kill the doctor firsts o all my kills go thru

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This is a very strange reaction and we do see more of that today

3:37 p.m.

Zenith Town Camryn Townlock Ace Townlock AFK Townlean Zenew

what does town lock mean

ok

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this is locktown btw

btw

3:39 p.m.

zenith already got lynched

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reads frustrated town

3:40 p.m.

Pixelad3, Star and Zen probably contains 2 wolves

ok

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yeah townlock

NOT Aeroyi

reads frustrated town

corct

3:41 p.m.

I was in fact frsutrated

3:41 p.m.

evil keyboard

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254797041599778896 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1255328530791927868

star

zenith already got lynched

zenew and zenith are different players

i know

Zen/Star or Zen/Pixelad or Star/Helvaria

3:43 p.m.

Game solved

LOL

3:44 p.m.

thats so funny

3:44 p.m.

you included pixelad

NOT Aeroyi

Oh

sobs why are none of these replies working

4:01 p.m.

i can't see what ur replying to

4:01 p.m.

is there a way to fix it

4:01 p.m.

or

4:01 p.m.

no

not sure

NOT Aeroyi

what's the org community

uhh is people who play like survivor or BB or whatever online via discord? is not really relevant to this game was just a fun convo

right

also damn

4:05 p.m.

aeo went crazy

they think me and you are mafia

4:05 p.m.

lol

4:05 p.m.

how? idk

funky funky

4:06 p.m.

i mean u might be

4:06 p.m.

but

they also said you and pixelad too

yeah

ya i saws dw

I mean what's your solve again

4:06 p.m.

just to remind us

4:06 p.m.

where's your solve?

if it were me

4:06 p.m.

i would say aeoliae is mafia

and who's my partner

and they are doing this to skip the vote

4:07 p.m.

because this way one town is launched

4:07 p.m.

and they could kill another one tonight

NOT Aeroyi

and who's my partner

not sure

I mean your solve is incomplete

ok

it does not hinge on factual evidence

4:07 p.m.

so it is not supported, and therefore is bad

funny how you started backreading after getting prodded along with pixelad

4:08 p.m.

yeah then dont read it

i already said, im the most suspicious out of all right now

4:08 p.m.

thats why the mafia could convince town to lynch me

4:09 p.m.

but youll know im not lying when 24 hours is over

4:09 p.m.

star

i already said, im the most suspicious out of all right now

If you are town it would really help if you did not flop like a fish and pout about being voted

i never pouted

If you are mafia it's probably just guilty conscious driving your actions

it might sound like it

4:09 p.m.

okay then vote me off

4:09 p.m.

smh

star

i never pouted

you did tbh you were kind of melodramatic that's what I mean

4:10 p.m.

like

4:10 p.m.

if you are town, you should try to defend yourself

oh btw i said that because she got the wrong idea

4:10 p.m.

LOL

4:10 p.m.

defend myself

4:10 p.m.

you know what

if you are town, you are helping achieve your wincon by not dying because you know you are town

4:10 p.m.

right

i should get out of this game too

4:10 p.m.

thanks for letting me know froggieheart

star

i should get out of this game too

?

4:11 p.m.

you're self voting

4:11 p.m.

smh

you said it yourself

sigh

I used to be a self voter

4:11 p.m.

it's literally pointless

yeah but apparently im suspicious and ‘not’ of use here

When did I say that?

NOT Aeroyi

if you are town, you should try to defend yourself

this

4:12 p.m.

but anyways froggiesip

4:12 p.m.

im not even pouting which is funny

4:12 p.m.

also i self vote because i want to

star

this

I am trying to encourage you to help the town if you are town by trying to avoid your own death. That is not telling you that you are useless or are less valuable than other players

star you are kinda being

4:13 p.m.

like

4:13 p.m.

jester?

4:13 p.m.

not that helpful

yeah so thats why i wanna be lynched

but i know it's probs just cuz frustrated town

4:14 p.m.

which is why i'd rather vote aeo

4:14 p.m.

who might just be smart af maf

Zen

which is why i'd rather vote aeo

huh what?

whenever i do give evidence, yall believe im mafia

4:14 p.m.

and whenever i get the wrong idea i get more sussed

4:14 p.m.

plus im not an info role

4:14 p.m.

and i dont know how yall play

4:14 p.m.

NOT Aeroyi

huh what?

idk i'm bad at the game and i know you're like way better than me

4:14 p.m.

but i feel like

4:14 p.m.

when even i can tell

4:14 p.m.

star is just

4:14 p.m.

frustrated towny

4:15 p.m.

over maf

4:15 p.m.

and ur still pushing them

Zen

but i know it's probs just cuz frustrated town

I do somewhat agree but if they are unwilling to even try to defend themselves I will have no problems voting them out It's something that's basically "If you see unacceptable behavior that you do not want to see again, punish it"

it just looks more like

yeah because apparently ive been doubted since day 1

ur doing it to make this an easy vote

also one more thing i wanna point out

self voting is not only pitiful but also it makes other people not care about defending you. What's the point of defending a slot that doesn't even want to defend themselves

i got ignored the other day so i didnt get voted out

NOT Aeroyi

I do somewhat agree but if they are unwilling to even try to defend themselves I will have no problems voting them out It's something that's basically "If you see unacceptable behavior that you do not want to see again, punish it"

ig but to ruin our game chances more by throw voting the thrower

4:15 p.m.

is kinda

4:15 p.m.

just bad no?

now they are pushing it on me

4:16 p.m.

star

i got ignored the other day so i didnt get voted out

Elaborate?

because apparently i got ‘town-leaned’ and everything

4:16 p.m.

i dont know how zenith got voted off

4:16 p.m.

because i didnt plan on voting

can you provide message links

I am trying to understand your perspective

all im assuming is that mafia went with whoever

4:17 p.m.

not me

4:17 p.m.

because if i got lynched day 1

4:17 p.m.

they wouldnt have a back up for day w

4:17 p.m.

2

Explain more?

4:18 p.m.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say here

no further explanation needed

I don't understand that "If I got lynched day 1 then wouldn't have a backup for day [2]" argument?

well someone elsemiht

4:19 p.m.

moght

4:19 p.m.

might

Could you repeat what you are trying to say again more clearly

4:19 p.m.

that's literally all I'm asking you to do

since day 1 ive been under suspension, but somehow zenith got voted off

4:20 p.m.

starting day 2 ive still been under suspension

4:20 p.m.

wait

4:20 p.m.

being sussed

Nice that this chat has some activity now. I will get back to you guys in approximately 12 hours.

7:36 p.m.

However I do have some stuff to say first.

7:38 p.m.

@NOT Aeroyi I'm surprised why you still think I'm not the doctor. If I really wasn't, then someone should have a pretty strong agenda against me.

You're the doctor lol

7:39 p.m.

makes sense

Yes. Then why would you put me as possible evil?

Helvaria

Yes. Then why would you put me as possible evil?

Because I didn't see/remember that you claimed doctor?

NOT Aeroyi

I wouldn't put it past them. They seem quite skilled and I have a huge respect for their play regardless of their alignment

At this point, you knew.

NOT Aeroyi

Zen/Star or Zen/Pixelad or Star/Helvaria

But you still placed me here?

i thought you did claim doctor?

10 minute difference. Memory wiped.

but they all said you didnt

8:02 p.m.

@Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 does the day end in 10ish hours?

8:02 p.m.

or 20 something

18ish and you can see a continually updated time in this post https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857208538763377/1255220983770386454

oh

8:04 p.m.

tysm

8:04 p.m.

sorry, i didnt see that was there

its cool

so we still have 18 hours tt_clapCat_OwO

Helvaria

At this point, you knew.

How would you know if I knew?

8:55 p.m.

You can't say that "you already knew"

Helvaria

But you still placed me here?

Yes

8:56 p.m.

I don't think I have particularily concerned myself with mechanics yet

8:58 p.m.

At a baseline, I would find your play scummy

8:58 p.m.

regardless of if you had claimed

well one more thing

9:01 p.m.

i went to look at the matrix

9:02 p.m.

if we are heading for the “tracker+doctor”

9:02 p.m.

it would mean we have a goon and rolecop

9:02 p.m.

the rolecop would have the ability to see someone’s role

9:02 p.m.

which means they could claim pr or town while blaming it on another player

9:02 p.m.

as they know their role

star

which means they could claim pr or town while blaming it on another player

Explain? If you're saying the rolecop can claim what their results are to eliminate a PR, then what happens when the PR counterclaims? It's suboptimal play at best and that's not even happening

9:24 p.m.

or they could just kill them off tonight

NOT Aeroyi

Explain? If you're saying the rolecop can claim what their results are to eliminate a PR, then what happens when the PR counterclaims? It's suboptimal play at best and that's not even happening

thats why they try to find ones that talk less or others

9:25 p.m.

they dont have to claim what the results say

NOT Aeroyi

How would you know if I knew?

But you clearly replied to a post saying that I claimed doctor?

9:32 p.m.

Nothing significant in terms of claims have changed since the start of today.

weym?

9:42 p.m.

wdym

Aeoliae replied to ace saying I claimed doctor

9:42 p.m.

Meaning that they know I claimed doctor

also im pretty confused

But right after they put me in possible evil list

aeoliae was quiet over the first day

9:43 p.m.

now they are replying to everything

And when I asked about it, Aeoliae is saying they didn't know I was doctor when writing that list

9:44 p.m.

This means for some reason they had a sudden change of heart about my status between writing that list and when I questioned it

NOT Aeroyi

makes sense

Because now, me being the doctor "makes sense"

Helvaria

But right after they put me in possible evil list

oh

9:45 p.m.

must have saw someone’s message

?

but also adding on to your claim

9:46 p.m.

remember before zenith got launched?

Yes

9:49 p.m.

The votes were decided at the last minute by pixel, zen and ace

for that vote tho

9:53 p.m.

i kinda just wanted to express my opinion with a vote

9:54 p.m.

and then people kindaa just jumped on it

9:54 p.m.

was funky

Helvaria

But right after they put me in possible evil list

they might just think u can be evil fake claiming doc no?

But they are suddenly very sure now?

9:56 p.m.

Also, at that point, either almost everyone or everyone had spoken. If I'm not the doctor, the real doctor should have counter-claimed already, or have a "subtle" strong agenda against me.

Helvaria

The votes were decided at the last minute by pixel, zen and ace

and zenith said his top two where aeoliae and pixel

10:06 p.m.

were

Helvaria

Also, at that point, either almost everyone or everyone had spoken. If I'm not the doctor, the real doctor should have counter-claimed already, or have a "subtle" strong agenda against me.

i mean idt doc should claim if you aren't doc no?

10:06 p.m.

cuz then ur mafia who traded 2 for 1 with both PR

Zen

they might just think u can be evil fake claiming doc no?

right

instead of you being outed while they can be safe

and aeoliae and pixel started talking more after zenith got launched

10:07 p.m.

dont know if its because of the prod though

no clue

thats why im confused

10:08 p.m.

whats the reasoning behind all that

10:10 p.m.

also did mafia attack last night

10:10 p.m.

or was rolecop on the move

Zen

i mean idt doc should claim if you aren't doc no?

They shouldn't claim, but they should at least question my authenticity.

10:12 p.m.

They would at least subtly push for me to go out, as I am, in their eyes, a "confirmed evil".

10:12 p.m.

No such thing has happened.

Helvaria

No such thing has happened.

~~isn't that literally what is happening tho~~

star

also did mafia attack last night

Mafia was smart enough to pickup on ace's softing. I did as well. We both targeted ace. Hence no kill occured.

how could ace only said one visited

10:14 p.m.

how come*

Zen

~~isn't that literally what is happening tho~~

yet aeoliae is voting star and not me?

oh

They should commit better to the act, in my opinion.

the reason for that is easy

Helvaria

yet aeoliae is voting star and not me?

wouldn't that be too obvious?

10:15 p.m.

the same as outing no?

The rolecop dosen't matter. At this point, they are just a goon.

im the easiest person to blame as of now

10:15 p.m.

if at least 1 town citizen gets voted out

10:16 p.m.

mafia gets to kill tonight

Zen

wouldn't that be too obvious?

No, I don't think so. I've pretty much been the most sketchy member since d1. It should be simple to prepare a case against me.

Helvaria

No, I don't think so. I've pretty much been the most sketchy member since d1. It should be simple to prepare a case against me.

meee

Helvaria

No, I don't think so. I've pretty much been the most sketchy member since d1. It should be simple to prepare a case against me.

but u also claimed doc...

10:17 p.m.

which just means most people are very ehhh on voting u even if they think u might be fake

Anyways, we should focus on lynching mafia today. This makes tracker's last track tonight much more valuable.

kinda would stick way out if you just went full on them no=

10:17 p.m.

either way ye

10:17 p.m.

no point voting u today

oh

10:17 p.m.

one more thing

10:18 p.m.

its easy to get me lynched off

star

10:18 p.m.

pat pat

10:18 p.m.

is okay

because i could get blamed that im not giving info

Zen

but u also claimed doc...

I concede that you do have a good point.

and that im being weird

10:18 p.m.

Zen

pat pat

I still find the shift in opinion strange.

i think this morning whenever aeoliae was here

Helvaria

I still find the shift in opinion strange.

das fair

ask soon as they said it i got 3 votes

i do also find aeo going full send kinda

10:19 p.m.

idk might be good town just finally trying or

10:19 p.m.

more like

10:19 p.m.

oh shit i'm maf getting accused let me go attack mode

trying to meet prod needs?

star

trying to meet prod needs?

i mean if they just wanna do that

10:19 p.m.

then they went way beyond it

10:19 p.m.

i think

how many messages does pixel have

shrugs

10:20 p.m.

idt counting if people are meeting prod or not is gonna help much tho

they might get lynched tmr

10:20 p.m.

or tonight

10:20 p.m.

im not sure

like sure there's people who can try to get away by just being quiet

10:20 p.m.

but u know

is also probs not anyone here i think?

im not really good at long mafias

most people are at leaast talking even if not always mafia stuffss

10:21 p.m.

which is more fun

star

im not really good at long mafias

hugs

10:21 p.m.

same tho

10:21 p.m.

i've only played a few

i only play the short ones where they get a ton of info

and most of the time i kinda

10:21 p.m.

give up on it cuz people get so fighty and angry

10:22 p.m.

thats why im so confused as to how yall are supposed to figure out whose mafia without any info (investigating, etc.)

Zen

give up on it cuz people get so fighty and angry

star

i only play the short ones where they get a ton of info

ya i don't

10:22 p.m.

play much mafia

Zen

i've only played a few

ive only played 1 long one

but i do play like

some sdg stuff

whose choice because my first game was a special game

like dread hunger and stuff

10:22 p.m.

and those are more funs

star

whose choice because my first game was a special game

worst

lmaooo

Zen

and those are more funs

oh yeah those

i think i've also played in a special game here?

10:23 p.m.

lily hosted it

10:23 p.m.

and a lot of my frens were in it

i did too, but it was my first game

10:23 p.m.

didnt go well

so joined

real

10:23 p.m.

i won the game but i remember was big sad

10:23 p.m.

cuz

ohh

everyone was just

10:23 p.m.

yelling at each other

10:24 p.m.

agfter the game

i almost got prod kicked uWuDuck

:(

Zen

agfter the game

that sucks

10:24 p.m.

:(

star

i almost got prod kicked uWuDuck

pat pat (also omg cute duck)

star

that sucks

yeahhhhh

10:24 p.m.

but this game has been better so far!!

10:24 p.m.

mostly!

10:24 p.m.

so hoping it stays

10:24 p.m.

like that

10:25 p.m.

and we can have a calm game if anything

Zen

pat pat (also omg cute duck)

thanks

Zen

but this game has been better so far!!

thats good!

originally that special game was going to be my last game

10:26 p.m.

but i think someone pinged me to join this one

10:26 p.m.

i was planning on leaving after the first one ended

10:26 p.m.

because i suck and i keep forgetting FacepalmLmao

Helvaria

No, I don't think so. I've pretty much been the most sketchy member since d1. It should be simple to prepare a case against me.

I didn't prepare a case against you. I pointed out evidence

Helvaria

Because now, me being the doctor "makes sense"

It all fits together in your worldview doesn't it

10:43 p.m.

it's all tunneled

star

thats why they try to find ones that talk less or others

That's... still not going to make it an optimal play.

10:44 p.m.

Like if I'm a mafia in this situation I could try to powerwolf and get 2 chain MLs in a row

ok

Helvaria

But you clearly replied to a post saying that I claimed doctor?

Did I?

Helvaria

But right after they put me in possible evil list

Yes, and? Your point isn't even a point. That's the issue.

star

now they are replying to everything

What does that mean to you?

Helvaria

And when I asked about it, Aeoliae is saying they didn't know I was doctor when writing that list

I did say that, yes. I did not take into account mechanics when I was backreading.

NOT Aeroyi

What does that mean to you?

i didnt see you do it yesterday

Helvaria

This means for some reason they had a sudden change of heart about my status between writing that list and when I questioned it

Why would I do that? Star is literally like, already dead if I'm a wolf, you're not even a viable push tomorrow if I'm a wolf because you'll be dead, and it just doesn't make sense.

Helvaria

Also, at that point, either almost everyone or everyone had spoken. If I'm not the doctor, the real doctor should have counter-claimed already, or have a "subtle" strong agenda against me.

PR cover is a thing but we will not bring it up

NOT Aeroyi

Why would I do that? Star is literally like, already dead if I'm a wolf, you're not even a viable push tomorrow if I'm a wolf because you'll be dead, and it just doesn't make sense.

how am i already dead

star

and aeoliae and pixel started talking more after zenith got launched

That doesn't even correlate

NOT Aeroyi

That doesn't even correlate

yeah it does

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I'm not sure if mafia factional kills are mandatory, but I assume they did

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Again, I assume they did. If they did not, that's on them, but I think we should move forward thinking that wolves played optimally. That means that they did try to submit a night kill, and they did role cop someone.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

um...

NOT Aeroyi

Again, I assume they did. If they did not, that's on them, but I think we should move forward thinking that wolves played optimally. That means that they did try to submit a night kill, and they did role cop someone.

which means doctor blocked it from happening

if you are fakeclaiming doctor

10:48 p.m.

the doctor is probably going to townread you

10:48 p.m.

that's how pr cover works traditionally

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Any mafia team that read through the 300 messages closely would've caught it, but good job nonetheless

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I'm confused what that means

NOT Aeroyi

I'm confused what that means

read what i sent under that

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

because you're the uncc'd doc? Like I can say "X is acting suspicious" and then not vote on player X. It does not mean that I necessarily think they have to be scum. That's just... not how the game works.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

#tunneled

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

thank you

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Okay let me explain something to you.

okay first of all

10:51 p.m.

if you’re not whatever you are

10:52 p.m.

what are you

10:53 p.m.

star?

10:53 p.m.

wut

i meant what are they

i mean

they keep replying and replying

no matter what they are

they'll claim town citz

10:54 p.m.

so uh

yeah

also let me read up on tracker

10:55 p.m.

cuz i just saw something i didn't see earlier

oh

Each night, you may choose a player to track. You will learn who your target visited, or that your target did not visit.

10:56 p.m.

okay okay nvm

10:56 p.m.

it does work like i thought

ouh

10:56 p.m.

thats why ace couldnt see who else visited him

When I play wolf, I strive to play optimally in every game, and to play to my wincon. Playing optimally means making the best decision available at a time. That means that if my teammate gets a lot of pressure, I will defend them or bus them if necessary. That means I will play like a town, and not like some extremely anti-town player who literally has nothing in their intentions besides to screw the town over four times in a row. playing to my wincon means that I do not make it harder for myself to win. That includes making it harder for my teammates to win. This means that if I make a push that damns me or a teammate in a cycle, it's bad because I'm working against my wincon. The wolf wincon is parity. The more alive wolves you have at parity, the easier it is, and the faster it comes. If you remove yourself or a teammate, you are making it harder for yourself to reach parity. That is playing against your wincon. If I were to sacrifice myself to kill two town in this game, that would be playing against my wincon because I have basically made the game unwinnable for my partner. This is the very principle of how I play, and I hope it's the way others do to. You should always assume optimal play; it's the right thing to do and normally the most correct. If we assume suboptimal play/gamethrowing, I not only find that offensive that you would even consider that I would break the rules, but it's also just incorrect most of the time. So snap out of it. Thanks.

star

thats why ace couldnt see who else visited him

yeahh u confused me when u said that lmao

10:56 p.m.

i thought tracker maybe worked like tos LO

10:56 p.m.

instead

ace couldnt track themselves?

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Does the doctor not have the Non-consecutive modifier/a restriction that disallows you to protect the same person twice in a row?

star

i didnt see you do it yesterday

I literally said that I would actually start playing after my course was over on d2. It was not poorly telegraphed.

NOT Aeroyi

When I play wolf, I strive to play optimally in every game, and to play to my wincon. Playing optimally means making the best decision available at a time. That means that if my teammate gets a lot of pressure, I will defend them or bus them if necessary. That means I will play like a town, and not like some extremely anti-town player who literally has nothing in their intentions besides to screw the town over four times in a row. playing to my wincon means that I do not make it harder for myself to win. That includes making it harder for my teammates to win. This means that if I make a push that damns me or a teammate in a cycle, it's bad because I'm working against my wincon. The wolf wincon is parity. The more alive wolves you have at parity, the easier it is, and the faster it comes. If you remove yourself or a teammate, you are making it harder for yourself to reach parity. That is playing against your wincon. If I were to sacrifice myself to kill two town in this game, that would be playing against my wincon because I have basically made the game unwinnable for my partner. This is the very principle of how I play, and I hope it's the way others do to. You should always assume optimal play; it's the right thing to do and normally the most correct. If we assume suboptimal play/gamethrowing, I not only find that offensive that you would even consider that I would break the rules, but it's also just incorrect most of the time. So snap out of it. Thanks.

can you explain in easier words

star

how am i already dead

You have more votes on you, and you would be a really easy push for me if I was a wolf.

NOT Aeroyi

I literally said that I would actually start playing after my course was over on d2. It was not poorly telegraphed.

ok.

NOT Aeroyi

You have more votes on you, and you would be a really easy push for me if I was a wolf.

actually you’re wrong

Aeo aeo

star

which means doctor blocked it from happening

Correct.

its a tie

i know you're gamering atm

10:59 p.m.

and stuff

star

if you’re not whatever you are

What?

but let's also calm down a bit

star

i meant what are they

are you asking for like my identity or what

u seem a bit extra frustrated

did you eat dinner yet?

star

they keep replying and replying

Yes

star

did you eat dinner yet?

star sobs

NOT Aeroyi

are you asking for like my identity or what

yes

Zen

star sobs

im asking everyone

Zen

they'll claim town citz

She understands!

i know youll claim town

11:00 p.m.

here’s my next question

star

thats why ace couldnt see who else visited him

THATS NOT HOW A TRACKER WORKS

if you’re town, what message did you get in your inbox yesterday

A TRACKER SEES THE TARGET OF THE TARGETED PLAYER

we

we figured that out aeo

11:00 p.m.

pls

star

if you’re town, what message did you get in your inbox yesterday

Unfortunately that is a rulebreaking question that I cannot answer

calm down a bit

11:00 p.m.

let's talk peacefully

NOT Aeroyi

Unfortunately that is a rulebreaking question that I cannot answer

did it contain a p

also star pls

btw i asked laga before asking you

no tryna meta game

i asked laga before asking

and they said it was okay?

thats why im asking that question

Star. If you are asking me to quote my role PM, that is rulebreaking. If you are asking me to verify my role PM, that is rulebreaking

no

Also, I could just ask the host for a sample town citizen role pm

11:01 p.m.

so

that too...

did it contain peacefully in it

11:01 p.m.

i could ask that byw

11:01 p.m.

byw

11:01 p.m.

btw

star

i asked laga before asking

Even if it is fine I refuse to answer this

ok

11:02 p.m.

that means they didnt

11:02 p.m.

ill explain why

11:02 p.m.

star

11:02 p.m.

pls

11:02 p.m.

it's fine

star

thats why ace couldnt see who else visited him

Them*

i don't think

11:02 p.m.

it's a viable thing to push with

sigh

@star Quoted directly from the rules:

• 4. Don't use Host Communication (modcomms) to prove anything. Don't mention something that the host sent you as a direct quote, and don't mention that the host told you about something to validate or prove a point.

11:02 p.m.

no

That is literally breaking the rules

11:03 p.m.

enough is enough

i meant i asked the host if that was okay to ask

everyone who's played this more than once too probably knows what it is somewhat

ffs

or can ask the host too

11:03 p.m.

even if it's allowed

11:03 p.m.

it's

sure

probs not useful

go ahead

i'm sorry star

i didnt ask the host for info

11:03 p.m.

i asked if im allowed to ask that question

As I said, it literally doesn't matter since I can ask the host for a sample town citizen role PM

+ star sint this basically “you suspect me so ur scum.”

11:04 p.m.

So you begin to make excuses

LORD

ace

11:04 p.m.

pls

I did read uo yet vur

Star, you cannot ask me to quote a single word directly from my Role PM, Host Communications for the sake of the game. I cannot stress this enough.

star

can you explain in easier words

Basically, stop assuming I would gamethrow or make insanely suboptimal plays as a wolf. If your worldview doesn't fit when you remove those options, That means you're probably wrong

star

actually you’re wrong

I have been holding back

Zen

u seem a bit extra frustrated

Yes

i never said quote

NOT Aeroyi

I have been holding back

Release it!!!/hj

star

i never said quote

You asked me for the direct wording of host communication. That is literally what it means by "don't mention that the host told you about something to validate or prove a point."

okay but guys

11:07 p.m.

if the host said it was okay it's probs just a small host error

11:07 p.m.

and it's fine

sorry

11:07 p.m.

not the host fault

11:07 p.m.

it was mine

can we move away from the topic of interpreting rules

11:07 p.m.

please

star

it was mine

pat pat

11:08 p.m.

yes

11:08 p.m.

let's do that

11:08 p.m.

so

11:08 p.m.

aeo

11:08 p.m.

what are your thoughts on the

11:08 p.m.

two of me and pixel

11:08 p.m.

i know you said you didn't really wanna partake in hel's thingy

11:08 p.m.

btu would always be nice to have some reads

11:08 p.m.

:>

I already denied the thunderdome, yes

yeah i don't like it much either

11:09 p.m.

but just

11:09 p.m.

not who u should vote

11:09 p.m.

just

11:09 p.m.

reads?

11:09 p.m.

if u wanna ofc

Not town?

11:09 p.m.

Like

11:09 p.m.

You're in Poe by virtue of the people around you being townier

mhm

11:10 p.m.

and pixel?

Similiar

nothing beyond that on either or?

11:12 p.m.

fair enough

question

hoi?

cant we just not lynch anyone

11:13 p.m.

thats enabled anyways

uh we can but it's usually not good

how?

star

cant we just not lynch anyone

7/2 correct?

cuz then tmr we're in the same situation but with one less town

NOT Aeroyi

7/2 correct?

?

Zen

cuz then tmr we're in the same situation but with one less town

thats the thing

11:13 p.m.

if we random lynch today

11:13 p.m.

isnt that what the mafia wants

well we're not random lynching tho

11:14 p.m.

we're tryna remove all our sus townies

ok

which should hopefully get the mafia too

11:14 p.m.

:>

im saying that because if we really have a tracker

11:14 p.m.

they would be able to track what happens next

11:15 p.m.

but if we lynch based on whatever evidence we have

11:15 p.m.

the chances are there is a high percent chance we lynch the wrong person

Today is 7 players alive, 2 are wolves. Tomorrow with a sleep is 6 players alive, 2 are wolves. If there is a ML again, it will be 4 players, 2 are wolves. That is game over. If we do not sleep, tomorrow is 5 players and 2 are wolves. An ML means wolf win. We not only have to determine the alignments of less players, but also we have information regarding someone's flip.

NOT Aeroyi

Today is 7 players alive, 2 are wolves. Tomorrow with a sleep is 6 players alive, 2 are wolves. If there is a ML again, it will be 4 players, 2 are wolves. That is game over. If we do not sleep, tomorrow is 5 players and 2 are wolves. An ML means wolf win. We not only have to determine the alignments of less players, but also we have information regarding someone's flip.

there is 8 alive players

11:15 p.m.

only zenith is dead

11:15 p.m.

we started with 9

Oh this is not an 8er is it

11:16 p.m.

then nvm

11:16 p.m.

we could sleep actually

ohh ig

might actually not be the worst idea

11:16 p.m.

forces the mafia to reveal one town

one lynch today would also come out with one kill tmr

11:17 p.m.

which leaves the game with 6 players

11:17 p.m.

but if we dont lynch today

11:17 p.m.

we have 8 and one might be gone tmr

so we can skip one lynch either way yeah

If we don't lynch today it's still 3 cycles of ML to town loss

and adding on

but should we?

If we do lynch today it's 2 cycles tomorrow

we still dont know if pixel has met the prod limit yet

11:18 p.m.

prod yet

Zen

but should we?

generally, it's best to skip the lynch in f4

so if they get prod kicked

11:18 p.m.

and lynched

if you reach a situation where there are four players alive, 2 are wolves.

11:18 p.m.

1 are wolves

11:18 p.m.

you sleep

there is only 5 people and 2 mafias

star

so if they get prod kicked

thought they get replaced

NOT Aeroyi

generally, it's best to skip the lynch in f4

so we should try to save it for later or

NOT Aeroyi

thought they get replaced

not sure

do we just wanna try to use it for some extra info now

but if they get replaced

11:19 p.m.

the new person would make it more confusing

Zen

so we should try to save it for later or

Yes

11:19 p.m.

however

11:19 p.m.

in f6 we sleep

why in F6?

11:20 p.m.

just to have the best odds

11:20 p.m.

or

whats f6

Zen

why in F6?

final 6/f6 sleeping makes the game easier

11:21 p.m.

turns it into a af5

oh

11:21 p.m.

if you want until f4 and there are 2 mafias

11:21 p.m.

and 2 village

11:22 p.m.

wouldnt mafia just win?

star

if you want until f4 and there are 2 mafias

wait not want

star

wouldnt mafia just win?

yes

11:22 p.m.

I mean if you wait until there are 3 town v 1 wolf

11:22 p.m.

best to sleep

oh

11:23 p.m.

well right now we have 8

11:23 p.m.

2 are mafias

11:23 p.m.

if one gets lynched today there is 7

11:23 p.m.

killed

11:23 p.m.

6

if we ml at f6

if today’s voting gets skipped, there is 8

it's game over

NOT Aeroyi

final 6/f6 sleeping makes the game easier

okay but why then why not rn?

11:24 p.m.

cuz would still make it F5 instead of F6

Zen

okay but why then why not rn?

we could rn

11:24 p.m.

but that'd literally only lower the number of PRs we have

just we also get tracker info without lynching?

11:24 p.m.

ig

11:24 p.m.

but we'd get that anyways

11:24 p.m.

okay maybe is not

11:24 p.m.

idk

11:24 p.m.

seems like it'd be same either way

so basically the only real info roles are tracker, neighbor, and jail whatever?

just we should try to

11:24 p.m.

vote skip once

Zen

just we also get tracker info without lynching?

Yeah but most likely: role cop carries factional kill == only one person could be tracked 1/8 is fairly eh

oh true so

11:25 p.m.

we should vote today

11:25 p.m.

so tracker has better odds

11:25 p.m.

then skip tmr

but if a town gets killed instead of a mafia

11:25 p.m.

doesnt town have more trouble

well atm we're 8

11:26 p.m.

right

11:26 p.m.

so going down to 7 won't change how quickly we lose

11:26 p.m.

it just makes it a bit clearer who town is

ok

being on odds is better than evens ig

then please lynch me

11:27 p.m.

i wanna get out PEPEhmmsus

11:27 p.m.

i dont mind being lynch off anyways

11:28 p.m.

getting lynched means by the next day, there will only be 6 people left over

11:28 p.m.

idk what the odds would be

11:28 p.m.

but pretty risky

11:29 p.m.

because have you ever considered what would happen if the pr die

11:29 p.m.

just because there is a doctor doesnt mean they will protect the same person

Hi I’m back

1:42 a.m.

I was at a restaurant w my family

oh cool

Please do not not vote

2:09 a.m.

There is only 1 track remaining, since I die tonight and ace dies in 2 nights

2:09 a.m.

Mafia out means that remaining mafia must always visit to kill

2:09 a.m.

This makes even a null truck valuable, since it confirms innocence

NOT Aeroyi

I already denied the thunderdome, yes

(in assuming Thunderdome refers to the zen/pixel/you I stated) I also don't really understand why you did this. Who is actually evil, in your eyes, other than you 3? You've already stated that you townlean afk and townlock camryn. The only one remaining is me and star, but you think I'm doctor, as of a few hours ago. Even if star is evil, then there's still 1 evil within the 3 I singled out. So why deny the Thunderdome?

2:24 a.m.

What are your updated, most likely evil teams now?

Have I not already answered all of your questions?

2:24 a.m.

I think I've touched on each thing you've asked.

Sorry if I missed them out.

2:25 a.m.

Could you restate them?

2:25 a.m.

Also, what do you think of pixel? Based on a quick search I just did you don't really have an opinion on them.

As for denying the thunderdome, it is both poor play and not what I will be doing to new players. I can become very intense, and I do not want to give people a terrible first game of mafia. Besides, even if it wasn't a terrible tactic from my eyes, in no way does it solve the current situation. A cohesive town works together, not against itself. I do not think a thunderdome is what we need here. Even if the numbers don't add up, it doesn't warrant extreme measures.

Oh my bad, you referred to them by their full name pixelad, so the search didn't yield results. I'd still like a response to that question though.

Helvaria

Also, what do you think of pixel? Based on a quick search I just did you don't really have an opinion on them.

Poe, yes

Helvaria

Could you restate them?

Probably one in zen/pixel

2:28 a.m.

Pixel reminds me of Roxy from syndicate so maybe that's a place worth checking

Well, what do you think of voting pixel out today then? I think there's a good chance they are evil.

I would be willing to consolidate on Pixel

I’ll see how thisll turn out I guess

2:52 a.m.

Idk I’m trying not to get prodded again

ugh im having a really hard time reading aeoliae's msges

6:45 a.m.

everything is "message could not be loaded"

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

been at work ftr!

i miss reading ur posts meowdy

6:57 a.m.

come back

6:58 a.m.

today's chat is too much work

7:00 a.m.

i still have hw and stuff to do so i might not have enough time to do reads tonight

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i still have hw and stuff to do so i might not have enough time to do reads tonight

Well you better be online because I want to hammer. We have similar timezone issues, and I want to make sure we lynch mafia before I die tonight. I don't trust the possible mafia members to do the lynch.

Helvaria

Well you better be online because I want to hammer. We have similar timezone issues, and I want to make sure we lynch mafia before I die tonight. I don't trust the possible mafia members to do the lynch.

i will be online for ~4 hours or so meowdy

7:37 a.m.

ping me if im still online but not here though

You're here right?

7:38 a.m.

Let's discuss who to lynch.

7:39 a.m.

What do you think of our current situation?

its a mess

7:39 a.m.

i haven't organised my thoughts

Ok... Get back when you do.

for now i think aoeliae might be maf but i haven't rly looked into their posts today yet just read through

7:40 a.m.

might

7:41 a.m.

zen/star/pixel --> star is my top town out of 3 currently

7:42 a.m.

due to recent interactions i suppose

Yes, I agree.

zen/pixel/aoe zen seems to talk a lot but most are unimportant msges pixel i don't have a lot of an impression on, kinda laying very low under the radar (did i use that right?) aoe did not do anything until today -- honestly expected more or smth like pre-prepared notes or whatever cuz they're experienced in mafia -- maybe i had too high expectations -- unsure why they're pushing star rather than the others

7:47 a.m.

i still want to reread chat and double check the times with the voting times

something interesting about yesterday's votes is that before zenith got voted out, I was the top vote.

to get a better understanding of what was going on

Helvaria

something interesting about yesterday's votes is that before zenith got voted out, I was the top vote.

huh

Since I'm town, switching from town to town is an interesting choice for mafia.

oh ace

Helvaria

Since I'm town, switching from town to town is an interesting choice for mafia.

wdym

This makes me trust zenew a bit more. But pixel coming in afterwards to add to that vote is a bit suspicious.

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wdym

If zenew was mafia, they risked their reputation, switching from a town vote (good for them) to another town vote. There isn't exactly any way for a mafia to gain from this.

7:49 a.m.

Pixel and zenew coming in to vote together is also pretty stupid if they were both mafia. Especially since pixel's was a silent vote.

Helvaria

If zenew was mafia, they risked their reputation, switching from a town vote (good for them) to another town vote. There isn't exactly any way for a mafia to gain from this.

zen did not vote you though

7:50 a.m.

?

zen voted zenith.

yes

by switching i mean not switching their vote but switching the overall lynch

ohhh

Helvaria

Pixel and zenew coming in to vote together is also pretty stupid if they were both mafia. Especially since pixel's was a silent vote.

my thoughts on d1 lynch was just 3 ppl who didn't know who to vote and just voted on whoever was most likely able to be voted out instead of lynching randomly in a 5 way tie

7:54 a.m.

and zenith kind of had a lot of ppl's sus on them

7:54 a.m.

ace is like -- following whatever

7:54 a.m.

pixel too

Here are the possible mafia teas imo, ranked from highest to lowest chance: Aeoliae/Pixel - It just feels right. Zenew/Pixel - Slightly strange how coordinated they are, but still possible. Aeoliae/Zenew - Less likely then other 2, since Aeoliae did a "poke vote" for no reason to zenew on d1, and also stated their intention to vote zenew later that day. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254820035558641815 Camryn/Aeoliae OR Zenew - Lower because Camryn is probably town, but they have actually fallen silent, which is weird. Camryn/Pixel - Least likely, since Camryn did a crack theory targeting Pixel. Cleared peope who are not considered are: Afk - Very townie. Sharing reads. Helvaria - Doctor. Ace - Tracker. Star - Makes wild incorrect assumptions and guesses about the setup, votes herself, then tries to attack Aeoliae with metagame. If mafia, she is actually the best player here.

7:56 a.m.

mafia teas, yes.

7:57 a.m.

Based on these I think Pixel is the best vote.

d2 votes on star aeo first to vote star (attempted to) ace followed pixelad followed pixelad removed aeo voted star (figured out how to) pixelad voted star again star self voted

7:57 a.m.

im just gonna ignore ace here

7:58 a.m.

pixel's votes just seems like they'll vote whoever

Pixel is mafia -> Camryn pseudo-cleared, Aeoliae or zenew can be tracked, game is won Pixel is town -> actually not sure let me think

whoever was voted last maybe

Aeoliae is suspicious. I also am having the same issues reading their messages, but their vote on star felt really out of touch. But I think giving the benefit of doubt is ok here, since their vote was when they were midway through chat reading I think?

Helvaria

Here are the possible mafia teas imo, ranked from highest to lowest chance: Aeoliae/Pixel - It just feels right. Zenew/Pixel - Slightly strange how coordinated they are, but still possible. Aeoliae/Zenew - Less likely then other 2, since Aeoliae did a "poke vote" for no reason to zenew on d1, and also stated their intention to vote zenew later that day. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254820035558641815 Camryn/Aeoliae OR Zenew - Lower because Camryn is probably town, but they have actually fallen silent, which is weird. Camryn/Pixel - Least likely, since Camryn did a crack theory targeting Pixel. Cleared peope who are not considered are: Afk - Very townie. Sharing reads. Helvaria - Doctor. Ace - Tracker. Star - Makes wild incorrect assumptions and guesses about the setup, votes herself, then tries to attack Aeoliae with metagame. If mafia, she is actually the best player here.

what interactions does pixel have with aeo

Hi @camryn (✿◠‿◠), if you're free, could you give your take on our current situation, and who you think are most likely to be evil? The sooner the better, for the sake of afk and my timezones.

Pixelad3

Aeoliae - Town Maybe??? IDK they could have a PR Zenith - Also Town, but I feel slightly more sure abt it Zenew - No clue Helvaria - Also no clue (edited)

this

Pixelad3

I read aeoliae (i think thats how u spell their name?? Idk) as town earlier but im not that good at reads and it was sorta based on gut feeling-

This

8:08 a.m.

hm

8:09 a.m.

A camryn/aeoliae team would be tough

my thoughts on basically everything on pixel ^^

The problem is, the line between foolishness and malice is hard to discern

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pixel/aeo & pixel/zen ig would be possible

yes, those are, in my opinion, the most likely.

Helvaria

Pixel is mafia -> Camryn pseudo-cleared, Aeoliae or zenew can be tracked, game is won Pixel is town -> actually not sure let me think

i don't really know how to match the mafia teams, im more to looking into them individually aeo/pixel -- not much interactions i think from aeo to pixel, just pixel reading them as town for now but can be considered -- pixel followed on voting star zen/pixel -- pixel following them on reads/voting zenith (anything else?) aeo/zen -- "poke vote" -- don't remember any reaction coming from zen -- aeo also did not say anything/put pressure on zen like u did -- aeo said zen/zenith are as good as the other vote cam/any above -- not sure -- only thing is cam has been silent/no reads from cam d2

Helvaria

Pixel is mafia -> Camryn pseudo-cleared, Aeoliae or zenew can be tracked, game is won Pixel is town -> actually not sure let me think

oh yeah i was replying to this msg cuz im not sure how this works lol

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pixel's votes just seems like they'll vote whoever

i stand by this point -- pixel seems to hop onto any wagon

Helvaria

Aeoliae is suspicious. I also am having the same issues reading their messages, but their vote on star felt really out of touch. But I think giving the benefit of doubt is ok here, since their vote was when they were midway through chat reading I think?

aeo's comments on star is weird

8:24 a.m.

but also aeo's posts at sod

8:31 a.m.

1. suspected pr were not pr 2. claimed no maf out of 3 3. was leaning on zen/zenith (zen was one of 3) 4. kind of replied to a lot of unrelated posts (they can do what they want, just feel some are unneeded, you can ignore me on this) --> such as replying to ace/zenith's posts (might wanna focus on maf instead?) 5. held on to star after reading star's post -- forgot about zen (?) 6. i asked aeo during eod of d1 if they were keeping up and they said yes (should have already known that ace was tracker and what happened in d1 if that was the case) btw did they finish reading all of d1&d2 or only did it halfway

8:31 a.m.

these are just what i vaguely remember

8:36 a.m.

@Helvaria

Pixelad3

idk my head hurts

hi how's ur head

Zen

i don't really have much reason to suspect one over the other

so is it pixel or aeo -- whats ur conclusion?

Pixelad3

yupp

yup?

NOT Aeroyi

Star wolfslipped

can u elaborate

NOT Aeroyi

but I think you perspective slipped on d1

i don't get how u got to that conclusion

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imma need to check back on this again

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+wolf for who also LLLL message could not be loaded again

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what

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where do we have healing

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can't see msg don't know what its for

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same, get back later

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don't get what all the continuity error means -- need explanation

Oh god not another reply wave I can't see the replies to

Not sure how to express this feeling, but Aeoliae's reads feel like they are trying to mislead and ignoring key information (that I'm doctor, that star is clearly pretty townie, that the Thunderdome is real), but then after questioning about it they rapidly shift their view back to reality. I could be tunnelling, though.

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are you counter claiming or no? why does healing/protection roles matter to you

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so is it pixel or aeo -- whats ur conclusion?

Also I mean

8:53 a.m.

#ne70-vote

8:53 a.m.

Is how am still feeling atm

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prefer it if you'd add reasons behind to make it easier to know why u decided to town/townlock/townlean/empty

Idk if u saw yet but just the way they went onto star

8:54 a.m.

When even I who's like way less experienced

8:54 a.m.

Could tell was

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prefer it if you'd add reasons behind to make it easier to know why u decided to town/townlock/townlean/empty

The townlock on Camryn was because of the crack theory post. Not sure about the others.

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frustrated town pixel but no angry town star?

Just frustrated new town

8:54 a.m.

Felt so bleh

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i don't really see yours imo

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defend yourself?

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what would be useful then

Dayum

8:58 a.m.

Afk is aeo's number 1 hater

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encourage star to help town while voting star -- your wording doesn't seem like you think you're talking to a maf in this sentence but idk how else one should react to self voting

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give more evidence it helps in forming our thoughts

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i think what star is trying to say is

9:02 a.m.

maf went with whoever d1 -if star doesn't get lynched -backup for d2 would be lynching star

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i don't rly get the under suspension meaning though since you said you're 'town-leaned', why would you be voted out

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clearly did not read chat AND just read this urself u were there

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?

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who would you ML then

9:14 a.m.

can't see replies again

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who would you ML then

star?

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why isn't it

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??? im just gonna skip this for now unless we need it

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I just realised this makes no sense since I was tracked and visited ace. The doctor would want me dead.

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this is a lot on how you play as wolf, what point are you trying to prove here?

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@Helvaria did you reply to this

Nope

9:24 a.m.

But there's no restriction other than no self protection.

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do you have reads not based on elimination

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can we skip sleep?

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do you have reads not based on elimination

Hold on there this is kinda a bit too much hating, elimination is a pretty valid strategy.

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why can't you doc urself though

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oh maybe aeo scum read star cuz of this

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either pixel or aeo

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why can't you doc urself though

I am blessed with the ability to save anyone I wish, but not myself. Perhaps these are realities of society.

oh that sucks

Helvaria

Hold on there this is kinda a bit too much hating, elimination is a pretty valid strategy.

yes but there's no reasons backing up the poe other than "others being more towny"

9:30 a.m.

im not hating

Helvaria

I just realised this makes no sense since I was tracked and visited ace. The doctor would want me dead.

exactly

Zen

Afk is aeo's number 1 hater

sorry just replying

Zen

Is how am still feeling atm

do u have anything else to say on pix/aeo/star

Helvaria

Not sure how to express this feeling, but Aeoliae's reads feel like they are trying to mislead and ignoring key information (that I'm doctor, that star is clearly pretty townie, that the Thunderdome is real), but then after questioning about it they rapidly shift their view back to reality. I could be tunnelling, though.

9:36 a.m.

aeo's been against star being town since d1 -- smth about no purities -- then said star perspective slipped -- but only based on that post/d1 early posts -- still haven't seen anything on late d1/d2 from aeo

9:37 a.m.

i forgot about pixel again

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here ill reply to you for the next couple minutes

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actually can you quote those

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there's no reason to not suspect you

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why?

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if you can, pls read

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can you explain your votes/unvotes

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do u have anything else to say on pix/aeo/star

Sobs I can't even see what ur replying to but ik it's me since ping

dw just answer the question

And idt I have much else to say on aeo if you read all the stuff I said previously

just sum it upp

And still think Pixel seems towny

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just sum it upp

Uhhhh okayy

9:43 a.m.

Blah am tired tho

9:43 a.m.

But

9:43 a.m.

Iirc

9:44 a.m.

Aeo weird with star stuff

9:44 a.m.

Seems way smarter than how they're playing

9:44 a.m.

Uhhh

9:44 a.m.

D1 they were funky with

9:44 a.m.

Oh dw imma say stuff d2

9:44 a.m.

Then didn't

9:44 a.m.

Until the hel thingy

9:44 a.m.

Anddd

9:45 a.m.

put it

9:45 a.m.

in

9:45 a.m.

one

9:45 a.m.

sentence

Oh yeah I trusted them d1 but might be more cuz they were helping me with the basics

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sentence

Sob

9:45 a.m.

Okay

i hate searching for your posts

255 posts to go through

9:45 a.m.

yk why you're last?

Shsgsg

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yk why you're last?

9:45 a.m.

Well okayyy

9:46 a.m.

Uhm

9:46 a.m.

Aeo feels like he's not playing as well as he would if he was town?

9:46 a.m.

Ig that's the summary

you've played with him before?

Nope

9:47 a.m.

Just it's very clear he's like

9:47 a.m.

One of the best players in this game

9:47 a.m.

Or should be

9:47 a.m.

But idk

9:47 a.m.

Is kinda being funky

9:49 a.m.

Okay welp

9:49 a.m.

I might

no

Fall asleep at any time

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no

Wdym no

9:50 a.m.

Afk doesn't even wanna let me sleep sobbing

Zen

I might

thought you were gonna say ur leaving and yes u did

your posts are filled with a bunch of 1-2 words

9:51 a.m.

and most are just casual convos

THAT'S JUST HOW I TYPE AM SORYYE

9:51 a.m.

give info

But I feel like

if you don't know what to talk about

I've been pretty good at not just doing random convos this game sobs

talk about ur possible mafia teams

9:52 a.m.

and why

This is like way more than I usually manage

based on what

Idfk

9:55 a.m.

Am ewpy

9:55 a.m.

Eepy

what

zen/pixel? Sip

Afk hates me

9:57 a.m.

Jkjk

not saying no?

I feel like

9:58 a.m.

You should just be able to assume its a no???

?

9:58 a.m.

zen/pixel is totally possible

9:59 a.m.

if you flip scum, pixel should be ur teammate, no?

Wut

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zen/pixel is totally possible

It indeed is

10:02 a.m.

Also so about what to do if pixel flips town, I think in this case Camryn is evil

why?

10:02 a.m.

camryn reading pixel?

I really doubt zen/Aeoliae team

10:03 a.m.

And Camryn is the most suspicious out of the remaining

zenith/pixel flip town --> camryn?

I'm just gonna go sleep

Imo, yes

Zen

I'm just gonna go sleep

?

10:03 a.m.

voting you lol

Zen

I'm just gonna go sleep

Not yet stay online let's hammer in an hour

I'm not gonna be able to think and give good answers when am this fucking tired anyways

Zen

I'm not gonna be able to think and give good answers when am this fucking tired anyways

what time is it

Helvaria

Not yet stay online let's hammer in an hour

Bro I haven't slept for like

ok let me think

30 hrs

6v2 today

And I spent all of today

10:04 a.m.

Doing errands

10:04 a.m.

And cleaning

4v2 tomorrow if mislynch

Zen

And cleaning

tmi, talk game

YOU ASKED WDYM

10:04 a.m.

Sob

3v2 since no lynch is best

10:05 a.m.

this is annoying

fr

only 1 mislynch left

10:05 a.m.

and I die tonight

10:06 a.m.

Zenith lynch was not good for town

10:06 a.m.

so afk, who do you think is the best lynch?

10:07 a.m.

I feel like camryn is giving me extra paranoia about evil teams

pixel would tell us more but like- aeo and zen i can't rly pick rn

@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] I'm trusting you to lead the town after I die

don't die

10:08 a.m.

can u be my mentor

10:08 a.m.

or smth

I don't think that is possible

:(((

Helvaria

I don't think that is possible

do we have anything more on pixel

10:10 a.m.

like

10:10 a.m.

if pixel flips

10:10 a.m.

scum - aeo/zen town - camryn

10:10 a.m.

but i don't rly get

10:11 a.m.

did aeo mention zen or pixel out of them 3

10:11 a.m.

which one did aeo pick

Pixel flipping mafia is easy enough. @ace! ★ will track either aeo or zen. If night kill occurs (mafia might try to be tricky), ace can confirm the innocence of one of them. The game is solved.

10:13 a.m.

Pixel flipping town is very annoying as the track being null is does not confirm town. Possible teams are a combination of Camryn, zen and Aeoliae. I think that zen/Aeoliae team is less likely, so Camryn should go die. However, Camryn is indeed the least suspicious one. I think you guys should decide, since you will have more info than me right now by that time.

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

which one did aeo pick

Aeo dodged the question, saying that Thunderdome is bad for town.

10:14 a.m.

Zen picked aeo

10:14 a.m.

Pixel is ???

so.. aeo - ? pixel - zen zen - aeo what is thunderdome

10:14 a.m.

pixel said they trust zen less by 1% i think

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

so.. aeo - ? pixel - zen zen - aeo what is thunderdome

My proposition for the 3 of them to fight it out

Helvaria

Pixel flipping town is very annoying as the track being null is does not confirm town. Possible teams are a combination of Camryn, zen and Aeoliae. I think that zen/Aeoliae team is less likely, so Camryn should go die. However, Camryn is indeed the least suspicious one. I think you guys should decide, since you will have more info than me right now by that time.

I'll keep this in mind

@Pixelad3 we really want you dead. Can you defend yourself? I recommend pushing for another person while at it.

10:17 a.m.

@Alive Line NE

Helvaria

Pixel flipping mafia is easy enough. @ace! ★ will track either aeo or zen. If night kill occurs (mafia might try to be tricky), ace can confirm the innocence of one of them. The game is solved.

Oh and about this, I think it also confirms Camryn mostly since Camryn has been pretty anti pixel since day 1.

Helvaria

Oh and about this, I think it also confirms Camryn mostly since Camryn has been pretty anti pixel since day 1.

hmmm i rly don't know what to say about camryn rn cuz they haven't been saying a thing

Helvaria

Oh and about this, I think it also confirms Camryn mostly since Camryn has been pretty anti pixel since day 1.

are there any other occurences than zenith/pixel paired interaction?

Hmm, there actually isn't much.

zenith flipping town dismisses zenith/pixel pair catsit

10:23 a.m.

so idk how it would relate to camryn

Zenith?

10:23 a.m.

Oh zenith

yeah

10:24 a.m.

unless camryn was just pushing for random towns

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

so idk how it would relate to camryn

In saying that, Camryn accusing pixel right out of the gate is probably not something mafia teammates would do to each other

Helvaria

In saying that, Camryn accusing pixel right out of the gate is probably not something mafia teammates would do to each other

we're saying if pixel town then camryn maf right?

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

we're saying if pixel town then camryn maf right?

That's different. That's because Aeoliae and zen, who have been opposing each other, are probably not teammates. Leaving Camryn + one of them the most likely team.

10:26 a.m.

BUT a player of Aeoliae's calibre might be able to fake that apparent opposition

oh

Helvaria

BUT a player of Aeoliae's calibre might be able to fake that apparent opposition

wdym

Helvaria

That's different. That's because Aeoliae and zen, who have been opposing each other, are probably not teammates. Leaving Camryn + one of them the most likely team.

why can't aeo/zen just be distancing themselves

I'm just saying that Aeoliae and zen could be teammates after all

gm

HII

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

why can't aeo/zen just be distancing themselves

Yes, that's what I mean

lemme read up omg

finally here

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

gm

Good morning. We are discussing who to kill right now, and your insight would be greatly appreciated.

im sryyyy i got busy asf

NOT Aeroyi

Even if it is fine I refuse to answer this

the way they reacted here is fucking terrible btw

10:29 a.m.

why did they get so mad

Yeah I noticed that but I don't want to try to use the meta analysis to prove anything it's really not in the spirit of the game

ya i mean not the content of what they r saying j the overdefensiveness is weird

10:30 a.m.

and their to e

10:30 a.m.

tone

NOT Aeroyi

When I play wolf, I strive to play optimally in every game, and to play to my wincon. Playing optimally means making the best decision available at a time. That means that if my teammate gets a lot of pressure, I will defend them or bus them if necessary. That means I will play like a town, and not like some extremely anti-town player who literally has nothing in their intentions besides to screw the town over four times in a row. playing to my wincon means that I do not make it harder for myself to win. That includes making it harder for my teammates to win. This means that if I make a push that damns me or a teammate in a cycle, it's bad because I'm working against my wincon. The wolf wincon is parity. The more alive wolves you have at parity, the easier it is, and the faster it comes. If you remove yourself or a teammate, you are making it harder for yourself to reach parity. That is playing against your wincon. If I were to sacrifice myself to kill two town in this game, that would be playing against my wincon because I have basically made the game unwinnable for my partner. This is the very principle of how I play, and I hope it's the way others do to. You should always assume optimal play; it's the right thing to do and normally the most correct. If we assume suboptimal play/gamethrowing, I not only find that offensive that you would even consider that I would break the rules, but it's also just incorrect most of the time. So snap out of it. Thanks.

girl wtf

10:33 a.m.

zen has a habit of derailing game talk that i havent rly picked up on until now

star

then please lynch me

what-

NOT Aeroyi

Why would I do that? Star is literally like, already dead if I'm a wolf, you're not even a viable push tomorrow if I'm a wolf because you'll be dead, and it just doesn't make sense.

Can you explain this part about star? Not sure if you are awake though...

Helvaria

If zenew was mafia, they risked their reputation, switching from a town vote (good for them) to another town vote. There isn't exactly any way for a mafia to gain from this.

not sure i follow the logic here

Ok so: Top wagon is me, because of ace. Zen decides to express their opinion, voting zenith and equalising votes. Pixel follows suit. Ace follow suit.

10:38 a.m.

Zen as a mafia has no reason to want to switch vote from town to town

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

aeo's been against star being town since d1 -- smth about no purities -- then said star perspective slipped -- but only based on that post/d1 early posts -- still haven't seen anything on late d1/d2 from aeo

what was the pov slip in question

It would in fact, make them more suspicious

10:38 a.m.

Hence, zen is less suspicious than pixel and Aeoliae in my eyes.

10:38 a.m.

But pixel following the vote is weird.

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

and most are just casual convos

our synergy w this read

Helvaria

Ok so: Top wagon is me, because of ace. Zen decides to express their opinion, voting zenith and equalising votes. Pixel follows suit. Ace follow suit.

but why wouldn't maf just vote u

10:39 a.m.

oh wait

10:39 a.m.

is that what u said

They would, exactly.

10:39 a.m.

They wouldn't start their own wagon, that serves no purpose other than making themself look more suspicious.

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

what was the pov slip in question

just search perspective or slip by aeo

why r ppl sure afk isnt scum btw is it just vibes

Vibes yeah

10:40 a.m.

The only person with detailed reads on D1, and consistently contributing throughout the game.

sorry lemme read current convo now

Helvaria

The only person with detailed reads on D1, and consistently contributing throughout the game.

tbh camryn was my role model d1

10:41 a.m.

who motivated me to do reads and stuff

Helvaria

Zen as a mafia has no reason to want to switch vote from town to town

thats fair and this is not disrespect to zen but a lot of players r new here, and the reason i scumread zenith is bc he talked weird and he ended up being town

so i feel like always analyzing for the most optimal play isn’t necessarily smart for this PL

otherwise i'd probably just be uhh doing nothing much

Helvaria

Can you explain this part about star? Not sure if you are awake though...

I am so sorry you actually did explain it to star

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

thats fair and this is not disrespect to zen but a lot of players r new here, and the reason i scumread zenith is bc he talked weird and he ended up being town

so i feel like always analyzing for the most optimal play isn’t necessarily smart for this PL

what is PL?

player list

10:43 a.m.

LLL

10:43 a.m.

LOL*

oh

10:43 a.m.

earlier aeo said pl+1?

10:43 a.m.

idk what it meant

lemme look it up

10:43 a.m.

i could try to decipher

10:44 a.m.

i have no clue what blud is on ab here unfortunately

I am really ?

like why did he j drop that and not elaborate im crying

pl +2

10:45 a.m.

ok so on rereading a bit I still feel that pixel is the best vote for info, but I really think Aeoliae is evil

10:46 a.m.

I think Aeoliae evil chance is higher than zenew, so it's between pixel and Aeoliae

10:46 a.m.

@camryn (✿◠‿◠) Who do you think is the best vote today?

NOT Aeroyi

it does not hinge on factual evidence

50% of mafia is gut reads what

10:48 a.m.

why would pixel b the best vote for info out of curiosity

Helvaria

I think Aeoliae evil chance is higher than zenew, so it's between pixel and Aeoliae

its rough bc aeoliae to me is either scum or a super reactive town and how harsh he is with his responses is making him harder to read for me

Aeoliae voting scenarios: Aeoliae is evil - tracker can track on pixel, zen or maybe camryn. This will either confirm evil (game solved) or confirm one person's innocence. The game becomes 5v1. 1 mislynch is allowed. Aeoliae is town - painful for tracker as usual. probably go for zen or smth? This scenario really sucks.

Helvaria

Pixel flipping mafia is easy enough. @ace! ★ will track either aeo or zen. If night kill occurs (mafia might try to be tricky), ace can confirm the innocence of one of them. The game is solved.

this is why pixel should be a good vote

10:51 a.m.

This should be most apparent for you, camryn. Your poe dosen't include yourself, only the 3 of pixel/aeoliae/zen. Since aeoliae/zen is the least likely combination of 3, pixel is probably evil.

10:51 a.m.

Actually even if it is a mislynch it should be easy solve if you are town.

Helvaria

This should be most apparent for you, camryn. Your poe dosen't include yourself, only the 3 of pixel/aeoliae/zen. Since aeoliae/zen is the least likely combination of 3, pixel is probably evil.

yes but we r excluding afk in this analysis which is why its not apparent to me. like even if u think afk is town shouldnt it still be wise to try and read who they could be partnered with

Eh, to me, sometimes you just have to live with the assumptions

i probs townlean afk ftr but i dont think its smart to write them out of all scenarios when if they r mafia we r essentially fucked if we get out pixel and they flip town yk

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

yes but we r excluding afk in this analysis which is why its not apparent to me. like even if u think afk is town shouldnt it still be wise to try and read who they could be partnered with

you could try it, kinda curious how that would turn out but we might wanna leave that for n2/d3 Sip

10:54 a.m.

especially since we only have a few hours left

yeah let's end this soon

10:54 a.m.

so

10:55 a.m.

Aeoliae or pixel?

im fine w a pixel vote here ftr bc i agree it could glean us some info n ur explanation makes sense im just putting that out there

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

especially since we only have a few hours left

We both won't be there for the true dayend, so we have to end this now or some weird stuff might happen with votes after we leave.

Helvaria

Aeoliae or pixel?

pixel bc they also give nothing at least aeoliae tweaking gives us something to read

Helvaria

We both won't be there for the true dayend, so we have to end this now or some weird stuff might happen with votes after we leave.

yesyes

10:57 a.m.

so if pixel flips scum tonight, tracker does their job and we get the other maf d3

im fine to lock my vote in w yall now if u guys r somehow a scum team i will feel STUPID but w the doc claim and no cc idt thats possible LOLLL

well this is annoying we need 3 to hammer

i lean towards pixel here but if yall think aeoliae is smarter i trust ur judgement and will vote w u guys, but hels info analysis on voting pixel sat better w me

i mean 5

Helvaria

well this is annoying we need 3 to hammer

there's still some ppl who haven't voted yet

11:00 a.m.

which may change our final votes

ok so briefing for @ace! ★ if we actually go through with pixel vote: If pixel is evil, track either aeoliae or zen. I reccomend Aeoliae. Remember, with only 1 mafia left, your "no visit" track can confirm townies, IF a kill occurs at night. Things may get trickier if mafia decides not to kill for some reason. If pixel is not evil, track one of Aeoliae/Zen/Camryn. BUT a null track in this case will not confirm since only 1 mafia member does the nightkill.

im gonna start getting ready for work now but ping me if u need anything

Oh and for everyone, do not treat my words after I die as 100% correcct because I like making assumptions. But be wary of Aeoliae, they're the most skilled player here and can easily sway you guys.

11:04 a.m.

And for @star ... Don't vote yourself out. Please.

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i dont rly like pixelads interactions here as well. they seem to j be posting a lot of fluff and not rly saying much to progress convo at all but granted its early

@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] This was the other post where camryn opposed pixel.

11:05 a.m.

Please remember that zen/aeoliae is still possible and very dangerous

Helvaria

@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] This was the other post where camryn opposed pixel.

that's true though and i do agree with that

@Alive Line NE get on and hammer pixel

guys the hell

11:23 a.m.

i was sleepinh

morning

Helvaria

ok so briefing for @ace! ★ if we actually go through with pixel vote: If pixel is evil, track either aeoliae or zen. I reccomend Aeoliae. Remember, with only 1 mafia left, your "no visit" track can confirm townies, IF a kill occurs at night. Things may get trickier if mafia decides not to kill for some reason. If pixel is not evil, track one of Aeoliae/Zen/Camryn. BUT a null track in this case will not confirm since only 1 mafia member does the nightkill.

@ace! ★ read this

k already did

11 pings

12:21 p.m.

I just got up

Helvaria

@Pixelad3 we really want you dead. Can you defend yourself? I recommend pushing for another person while at it.

Yea idk

12:22 p.m.

ggs

12:22 p.m.

I was thinking of quitting anyway

12:24 p.m.

And its prob impossible to change ur minds now

Helvaria

I'm just saying that Aeoliae and zen could be teammates after all

you're saying ibussed zen

Helvaria

Pixel flipping town is very annoying as the track being null is does not confirm town. Possible teams are a combination of Camryn, zen and Aeoliae. I think that zen/Aeoliae team is less likely, so Camryn should go die. However, Camryn is indeed the least suspicious one. I think you guys should decide, since you will have more info than me right now by that time.

No. Camryn is also town

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

don't get what all the continuity error means -- need explanation

it means it's contradictory

Helvaria

Not sure how to express this feeling, but Aeoliae's reads feel like they are trying to mislead and ignoring key information (that I'm doctor, that star is clearly pretty townie, that the Thunderdome is real), but then after questioning about it they rapidly shift their view back to reality. I could be tunnelling, though.

MY GOD CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN, LIKE, 15 TIMES IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE

1:00 p.m.

@ace! ★ TRACK ME

Wil do?

EOD no more talking

Top of Day 3

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-06-27 7:51 p.m.

okay

2:02 p.m.

let me explain how Lylo works. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO AVOID VOTING UNTIL ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY

ok

If just a single town misvotes

Yeah so for anyone wondering

that's game over

aeo didn't visit anyone

2:03 p.m.

Which I'm not surprised about

thats why i said not to lynch yesy

2:03 p.m.

yesterday

2:03 p.m.

if im right

2:04 p.m.

the mafia listened to what hel said

Hel was just the standard kill

2:04 p.m.

like

no

2:05 p.m.

it means its someone whose been online for a long time

star

it means its someone whose been online for a long time

???

they would be testing hel to see if they were actually doc before killing

Star, if literally anyone in this game had to make a night kill last night, they would all choose Hel

2:06 p.m.

First off, they cannot be protected

ifkdbidnf

secondly, they can make the wolves require an extra ML for their win

i know hel would be killed

thirdly, hel is a townclear and that's not what they want in Lylo

one more thing

2:07 p.m.

since tracker is gone by tonigh

2:07 p.m.

tonight

2:07 p.m.

yesterday tracking one of the other 3 wouldve been a better choice

tracking literally anyone would be just as good

mostly the other three

it's a 1 in 6 chance of hitting a redcheck

hold on

hoi

okay

okay but why did we kill pixel

idk

2:08 p.m.

i was going to tell yall not to vote

2:08 p.m.

but i came in a little late

sob

Zen

okay but why did we kill pixel

because it was better than voting on me?

if we didnt vote pixel

2:09 p.m.

we would have had more people today

NOT Aeroyi

because it was better than voting on me?

i mean was it?

2:09 p.m.

they were town

2:09 p.m.

u might not be town

now we are at a dead end

2:10 p.m.

Zen

i mean was it?

Yes?

one more thing

I already said

yesterday who said voting someone out would help tracker

Aeo didn't visit anybody

star

yesterday who said voting someone out would help tracker

that's what we did, yes

ace! ★

Aeo didn't visit anybody

okay but that doesn't mean they're clear?

rolecop is still here i believe

2:11 p.m.

but if they did a fractional kill, wouldnt both mafia been seen moving?

star

but if they did a fractional kill, wouldnt both mafia been seen moving?

uh

Zen

okay but that doesn't mean they're clear?

Kinda does bc Hel died. And if they didn't cost anyone that means they aren't rc or or maf

Mafia rolecop would probably just carry both actions

2:11 p.m.

so one mafia would be motion less

okay but why would rolecop even check anyone?

which means the goon could have not moved

both doctor and tracker were outted

while the rolecop did the killing

Zen

okay but why would rolecop even check anyone?

There's no reason why they wouldn't

2:12 p.m.

because if the role cop is carrying the factional kill it's not like they're getting outted less

NOT Aeroyi

There's no reason why they wouldn't

they could get seen by tracker?

one more thing i want to bring up though

Zen

they could get seen by tracker?

either way one mafia is going to be trackable

how did you guys townlead afk and camryn

NOT Aeroyi

because if the role cop is carrying the factional kill it's not like they're getting outted less

true

because they still need to carry the kill

either way

2:13 p.m.

aeo

just based on evidence they gave?

i distrust you more now ngl

2:14 p.m.

lets ignore that for now

why wouldn't you correct ace on it clearing u if u were town

2:14 p.m.

like what

2:14 p.m.

i know u don't wanna go out

2:14 p.m.

but we should be making all the info clear

hold on

what are you even asking

wait

2:14 p.m.

before we get into that

2:15 p.m.

how did you guys townlead afk and camryn

2:15 p.m.

townlean

ig cuz they're active and solving the game the most?

but they never doubted each other?

uhh

2:16 p.m.

from what i saw

2:16 p.m.

both afk and camryn have sussed each other a fair bit

2:16 p.m.

but idk if anything serious

which means not a lot

2:16 p.m.

and they both gave so much evidence on day 1

they've both played before I think

but gone on day 2

afk was very active d2 no?

but camryn wasnt

camryn not as much

2:17 p.m.

but like just cuz ur not full active doesn't insta mean

2:17 p.m.

bad

2:17 p.m.

anyways i wanna

2:17 p.m.

go back to this

NOT Aeroyi

what are you even asking

so aeo i'm not asking anything atm

2:18 p.m.

just

2:18 p.m.

so

2:18 p.m.

tracker tracked you last night

yes

i think most people knew u would be tracked as you even shouted it

2:18 p.m.

therefore u probs know that too

2:18 p.m.

so

I get what you're saying

since there's 2 mafia alive

2:19 p.m.

you being tracked doesn't really clear you at all

You believe that asking to be tracked lessens the value of being tracked in the first place

so then i have 2 questions

NOT Aeroyi

You believe that asking to be tracked lessens the value of being tracked in the first place

yes this, why did u do this and waste our track?

2:19 p.m.

and also

2:19 p.m.

if u know this too

(I was secretly hoping that Ace did not track me and instead used it as cover)

why didn't you start off by clarifying this with ace over just pretending you were semi cleared cuz of it?

yo

NOT Aeroyi

Yes?

like what

because that'd ruin the whole point of it?

NOT Aeroyi

because that'd ruin the whole point of it?

no i mean

2:20 p.m.

today

What?

not yesterday that's a whole diff thingy

NOT Aeroyi

because it was better than voting on me?

but here u start talking like semi confirmed

2:21 p.m.

for some reason

Yes

Zen

both afk and camryn have sussed each other a fair bit

idt this is necessarily true i j said full town clearing afk and not including them in pairing discussions etc is not smart

2:21 p.m.

bc we dont know for sure if they r town

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

idt this is necessarily true i j said full town clearing afk and not including them in pairing discussions etc is not smart

mhm

2:21 p.m.

das fairs

i never outright sussed afk i j said we shouldnt treat them as town cleared

2:21 p.m.

when they arent

oki oki

2:22 p.m.

cam can i ask ur view on what aeo just did

2:22 p.m.

cuz i feel like

2:22 p.m.

this is just

lemme read up LMFAOOO

wtf

2:22 p.m.

why would u do this

Zen why are you talking like I just dayvigged Ace or something

2:22 p.m.

like

i mean u wasted our last tracker then try to use it as proof to inno urself?

2:23 p.m.

like

2:23 p.m.

what

why are you so mad about it?

should i not be sus of that?

i mean i was too

I was pretty frustrated at that point to be fair

but wh

Zen

okay but why did we kill pixel

hel had some theory

I mean it wasn't a great move

ab how they were the best vote

star

why are you so mad about it?

oh dw am not mad (sorry if that's what it seems like)

it was me afk and hel that were online i can try to find it

oh

i do get a bit bitchy when confronting people

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

it was me afk and hel that were online i can try to find it

i did read it but i just didn't fully get it

2:24 p.m.

probs cuz i had pixel pegged as town

2:24 p.m.

so

2:24 p.m.

ig

2:24 p.m.

idk

Pixel had a very low amount of content

2:25 p.m.

and a lot of people felt like everyone else was townier than Pixel

2:25 p.m.

that's basically the bottom line of it

2:25 p.m.

poor pixel

I mean that's what happens if you don't put enough time into the game

yeahhh ig

2:26 p.m.

is still sade tho

2:26 p.m.

but anyways

i mean idt we should get mad at aeoliae here if anything its hel that fucked up for pub announcing who they would track LOL

track?

like lemme find it but hel was telling ace

2:27 p.m.

who to track

2:27 p.m.

publicly

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i mean idt we should get mad at aeoliae here if anything its hel that fucked up for pub announcing who they would track LOL

i mean true too but aeo literally yells it otu at day end sob

hel was not tracker

star

2:27 p.m.

pls read

2:27 p.m.

im begging u

read what

2:27 p.m.

im reading

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

like lemme find it but hel was telling ace

!

star

read what

they're saying hel told ace who to track not

2:27 p.m.

ye

ok

that

sorry then

2:28 p.m.

i read it wrong

pat pat

2:28 p.m.

is oki

2:32 p.m.

i reread

2:32 p.m.

can i say something

yes

wait hold on

ur g LOL

im backreading starting from day Q

2:41 p.m.

day 1

star

how did you guys townlead afk and camryn

reading up but ive been saying the same thing ftr

just to check something

we shouldnt be getting insta cleared bc we posted the most theories

2:41 p.m.

LOL

mhm

2:42 p.m.

also remember at the reallyyyy start of day 1

2:42 p.m.

zenith asked for claims

2:42 p.m.

so far everyone who has claimed turned out to be town

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

yes but we r excluding afk in this analysis which is why its not apparent to me. like even if u think afk is town shouldnt it still be wise to try and read who they could be partnered with

this

but afk did not claim

ill do an iso reading on afk later today im at work until 7 est, ftr if ppl wanna do that on me as well feel free but its rly stupid to write off afk bc they post a lot when its clear they have maf experience

2:45 p.m.

if im honest here

2:45 p.m.

the most suspicious i feel is afk and zen

star

the most suspicious i feel is afk and zen

hmmm from briefly skimming afk has sussed zen a shitton

2:48 p.m.

idk if it would make sense if they were paired unless afk is committing to distancing

2:48 p.m.

but also they were sussed zen on the fact that they believed pixel/zen could be a scum pair

seems like it

lets say afk and zen were maf

2:48 p.m.

afk would know pixel would flip town

2:49 p.m.

and by their own read it would clear zen bc theyve been pushing a pixel/zen potential scumteam

2:49 p.m.

its still possible for both to be scum together based off that yea

ok i checked votes

2:51 p.m.

they have never voted for each other

it seems that zen might also have guessed that ace was tracker besides hel

3:54 p.m.

before the end of day 1

3:54 p.m.

zenith, zen, ace, and me was there

3:55 p.m.

zen talked about tracker

3:55 p.m.

which means mafia attacked tracker assuming there was no doctor

3:55 p.m.

but hel (doctor) knew what was going to happen, so they protected ace

3:56 p.m.

and zenith got lynched as town

star

they have never voted for each other

idk if i've even voted anyone besides zenith and aeo

4:08 p.m.

lmao

star

zen talked about tracker

also what

4:08 p.m.

i did?

ace! ★

bc if tracker tracks doc itll eb messy

oh yeah up here

4:09 p.m.

that was so confusing ngl

4:10 p.m.

bleh it sucks 2 mafia are left

Zen

oh yeah up here

So ironic that littersly happened

right

4:13 p.m.

because after that ace got attacked

i mean it is true that i commented on what ace said but imma be real i didn't pick up that they were tracker at that point

4:14 p.m.

i was just confused why they were like

4:14 p.m.

hmm maybe is this role and that role

mhm

4:14 p.m.

and when afk came in on day 2

4:14 p.m.

they ignored that

4:15 p.m.

and then blamed pixelad

tbf at the time i was also tryna handle a stress vote in the org but ya know

4:16 p.m.

i mean everyone did still read that even if they didn't respond

4:16 p.m.

idk

mhm

i'm still kinda locked on aeo

4:16 p.m.

but idk who 2nd maf would be for me

and you said you were in another game

4:17 p.m.

but there is only 1

star

and you said you were in another game

the org?

4:17 p.m.

or

that's in a whole different server hun

4:17 p.m.

it's not even mafia

4:17 p.m.

it's a bg

4:19 p.m.

okay but wait

4:19 p.m.

am i just too tunneled on aeo or is this normal or what

4:19 p.m.

cuz why hasn't anyone else brought up what they did

4:19 p.m.

i feel like it just

mhm

screams sus

4:20 p.m.

welp anyways

4:21 p.m.

i'll be off for the next few hours focusing on org and friends (maybe some in between msgs here tho)

4:21 p.m.

so ping me if u need me <3

hm

wow

10:24 p.m.

It looks like someone was typing but then didn't know what to say

main events that happened sod d3 -lylo -ace tracked aeo -zen onto aeo -star convo

NOT Aeroyi

It looks like someone was typing but then didn't know what to say

reply to your pings please???

10:27 p.m.

d2??

10:28 p.m.

I'll start from star convo

I don't have the ability to easily see pings

..what?

10:38 p.m.

there's 2 ways for u to do that -inbox or search

star

thats why i said not to lynch yesy

I'll get back to this later -- got a couple things to say

10:41 p.m.

also lemme just do a recap quickly for @star -ace has been mentioning tracker nonstop since d1 -anyone who iso'ed ace would know that -- there's nothing from ace other than that -sod d2 ace said hel visited them -hel claimed doc and hel is doc

star

the mafia listened to what hel said

do u mean maf was one of the ppl who voted pixel by this or maf was reading hel's msges closely ?? if it was the first then it doesn't match up with what you said next, but first makes more sense to me -- if second then by my previous msg maf doesn't need to do that

10:45 p.m.

can you explain this part of chat -- can't rly follow with ur thoughts

what

10:45 p.m.

oh

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also lemme just do a recap quickly for @star -ace has been mentioning tracker nonstop since d1 -anyone who iso'ed ace would know that -- there's nothing from ace other than that -sod d2 ace said hel visited them -hel claimed doc and hel is doc

i know

10:46 p.m.

but its not as much noticeable

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do u mean maf was one of the ppl who voted pixel by this or maf was reading hel's msges closely ?? if it was the first then it doesn't match up with what you said next, but first makes more sense to me -- if second then by my previous msg maf doesn't need to do that

no, i meant the mafia is listening very closely to hel

star

yesterday tracking one of the other 3 wouldve been a better choice

who's in the other 3 here hel told ace to choose from aeo/zen but aeo screamed at ace to track aeo

10:47 p.m.

also that was if pixel was maf

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can you explain this part of chat -- can't rly follow with ur thoughts

the thing is, if no one asked, mafia might not have known that helvaria cant self heal

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

who's in the other 3 here hel told ace to choose from aeo/zen but aeo screamed at ace to track aeo

you, camryn, or zen

then they would most likely be the other maf

thing is pixel isnt maf

also aeo telling ace to track them was not a good move imo

so far everyone thats been outted has claimed town citizen since d1

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also aeo telling ace to track them was not a good move imo

this

10:48 p.m.

if rolecop does all the work, then the goon wouldnt be seen moving

star

i was going to tell yall not to vote

if we didn't vote anyone hel's just gonna die for nothing???

10:49 p.m.

we're trying to get maf out as soon as possible

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if we didn't vote anyone hel's just gonna die for nothing???

seriously

10:50 p.m.

i said yesterday not today

10:50 p.m.

if hel expected to die, then that means we all knew there will be less people

star

yesterday who said voting someone out would help tracker

yes cuz it narrows down the list for tracker and tracker might be able to track maf which gives us important info!!

lol.

10:51 p.m.

but thats not even important

10:51 p.m.

tracker would’ve died 2 nights after anyways

10:51 p.m.

so they could only track one person

10:51 p.m.

now we are down to if we vote off a town we lose

NOT Aeroyi

so one mafia would be motion less

if aeo is maf idk why they would clear this up

10:52 p.m.

but its helpful

if yesterday we didnt launch, we still would’ve gotten tracker info, but we would have one extra person

10:52 p.m.

lynch not launch

10:53 p.m.

and then we would’ve been able to vote someone off today

10:53 p.m.

based on what we got from tracker

10:53 p.m.

yes, more people = harder for tracker, but less people = harder for town

star

how did you guys townlead afk and camryn

how would you put your list rn from town to maf?

you all just thought about how the pr would have a easier time, but never considered that the prs would day within 1-2 nights

10:54 p.m.

die not day

10:54 p.m.

sorry

10:54 p.m.

too many typos

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how would you put your list rn from town to maf?

if i were to be real, i suspect you and zen the most

10:55 p.m.

not really camryn or aeo

star

but they never doubted each other?

i did doubt camryn because cam was less active in d2 but not much cuz i have cam as town

star

and they both gave so much evidence on day 1

point?

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point?

point is you guys might be mafia, but giving more info to sound town

10:57 p.m.

the only option right now is to either vote off someone, or leave it as it is

10:57 p.m.

voting off someone comes with a risk though

star

why are you so mad about it?

actually true lol zen is the only one onto aeo here ???

10:58 p.m.

but also why is no one else on aeo now -- ill get back on this too later

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but also why is no one else on aeo now -- ill get back on this too later

i want to know that somewhat

10:58 p.m.

originally i was going to vote off aeo yesterday

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if u read my msges d1 you can see that i said i trust it more to be first come first serve

but it somehow flipped to pixel

and the list was already 5-6 ppl

m

and everyone would claim that they're town

so someone lied

so its pointless

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and everyone would claim that they're town

at least we have an idea

and against what i think personally

star

so far everyone who has claimed turned out to be town

lmao what

star

the most suspicious i feel is afk and zen

why me and zen?

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why me and zen?

could say camyrn too

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lmao what

wdym what, scroll up and check

star

they have never voted for each other

I have only voted 2 ppl in this game by this logic i can be paired with 3 other ppl here ??? also i want to bring up the fact that u skipped voting both days here

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I have only voted 2 ppl in this game by this logic i can be paired with 3 other ppl here ??? also i want to bring up the fact that u skipped voting both days here

because i dont want to random lynch

star

it seems that zen might also have guessed that ace was tracker besides hel

^^anyone who reads chat would know pretty mad at ace for outting themselves so early in the game lol and outting doc d2 W tracker

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^^anyone who reads chat would know pretty mad at ace for outting themselves so early in the game lol and outting doc d2 W tracker

anyone would have known at that exact time?

11:05 p.m.

well since they are outted, we cant do much about it

star

and zenith got lynched as town

i've talked about this before, if you'd like to discuss more about this we can discuss it -- reply to my d2 post on this topic

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i've talked about this before, if you'd like to discuss more about this we can discuss it -- reply to my d2 post on this topic

where

star

they ignored that

did i???

star

and then blamed pixelad

what

11:05 p.m.

please read my posts or explain more on how u got there

star

but its not as much noticeable

no?????

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

what

zenith/pixelad

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

no?????

maybe for you

11:07 p.m.

then who do you suspect the most

star

the thing is, if no one asked, mafia might not have known that helvaria cant self heal

huh? how does that even relate -wdym by testing hel to see if they were actually doc before killing -yeah i did ask hel about that but that was only because at that point we have ace/hel outted and one of them is gonna die, i assumed hel would put use doc on ace but i thought what if hel used it on themselves? for the short games on bots/irl games i play, doc can self heal -- just wanted hel to live ong -maf could probably just check info or ask laga that and know anyways?

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oh yeah i can see how u got to me and zen now

11:12 p.m.

but that doesn't rly put aeo out of the list d2

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huh? how does that even relate -wdym by testing hel to see if they were actually doc before killing -yeah i did ask hel about that but that was only because at that point we have ace/hel outted and one of them is gonna die, i assumed hel would put use doc on ace but i thought what if hel used it on themselves? for the short games on bots/irl games i play, doc can self heal -- just wanted hel to live ong -maf could probably just check info or ask laga that and know anyways?

ok

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we only know that after d2 ended??

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but that doesn't rly put aeo out of the list d2

that is cant help

11:13 p.m.

i*

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we only know that after d2 ended??

i did suggest not voting

11:13 p.m.

but everyone said it “helps” the tracker

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yes so aeo could simply tell the other maf to do the killing

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yes so aeo could simply tell the other maf to do the killing

yeah this

11:14 p.m.

but zen on top of the list

thanks so much for replying (serious) catsit

you’re welcome

@NOT Aeroyi

you just happened to be online when i am

if you're not busy pls respond to pings

11:16 p.m.

i replied a lot to ur msges d2

11:16 p.m.

with questions

11:16 p.m.

and stuff

star

then who do you suspect the most

this

11:17 p.m.

i kind of want a list of opinions

yesterday i said aeo/pix/zen

so aeo and zen

since pix is town aeo/zen

what about camryn

but hel also said that aeo/zen is less possible

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but hel also said that aeo/zen is less possible

thats true

that's why we included camryn

zen started suspecting aeo

11:18 p.m.

weird

11:18 p.m.

but ok

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

that's why we included camryn

but that's only cuz aeo/zen doesn't seem that possible

11:18 p.m.

its not actually sussing on camryn

11:19 p.m.

my top suspect is aeo

11:19 p.m.

for plenty of reasons

would understand that

and the fact that they still haven't replied to me on d2 (only selectively replied to one of my posts???)

this is so much harder than the shorter mafia games pepemeltdown

11:20 p.m.

especially because i have to guess from the way of talking

okay sorry was busy just now

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

@NOT Aeroyi

YES

back for a bit but i gtg for lunch later -- i'll try to reply as much as i can

NOT Aeroyi

YES

?

11:44 p.m.

yes?

11:45 p.m.

okay fine i'll link the msges for you

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ok i still want to ask about this

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your reply to me but that doesn't rly clear up anything to me

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d2 pings starting from here

I think I already did

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I don't want to talk about my read on star anymore really because it hits some touchy topics

uhm

11:49 p.m.

ok just reply to other pings idk there's a bunch

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A continuity error is an inconsistency. i.e: Player A claims to have read thread, but then acts like they don't, or Player B knows what a doctors does but didn't 1 hour earlier

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They're free clears?

NOT Aeroyi

A continuity error is an inconsistency. i.e: Player A claims to have read thread, but then acts like they don't, or Player B knows what a doctors does but didn't 1 hour earlier

aren't u inconsistent

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I responded to each post

11:50 p.m.

that should show my thought process

NOT Aeroyi

I responded to each post

yeah but only halfway

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again, my star read has evolved drastically

aeo

11:50 p.m.

wait aeo

i don't see the rest of d1/d2

who do you suspect

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something with a point (idk what the context is)

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I am saying that if Star is town self voting is probably one of the most pathetic moves they can make

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this

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I mean yeah, that would make sense

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the doctors dead

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I would ML sleep

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https://tenor.com/MmDL.gif

NOT Aeroyi

I am saying that if Star is town self voting is probably one of the most pathetic moves they can make

okay tbh with you

11:52 p.m.

i really want to out myself

11:52 p.m.

cause i cant with this game

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(If this is responding to what I think it is) that you guys should all stop assuming I'd play suboptimally as wolf and start thinking logically

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No? Because they aren't useful?

also before day 2 ended, i was there

11:53 p.m.

but because majority was reached, the day ended

star

but its not as much noticeable

actually it is, i feel like u should acknowledge that first before going on your trail of thoughts -- not gonna continue on this anymore

while i was typing something

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

can we skip sleep?

Yes, but why? (In this current state, although at that time it would be perfectly acceptable either way)

star

no, i meant the mafia is listening very closely to hel

already included my statement for the latter

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either pixel or aeo

0/2 solve

Helvaria

I am blessed with the ability to save anyone I wish, but not myself. Perhaps these are realities of society.

classic not non-consec doctor problems

star

the thing is, if no one asked, mafia might not have known that helvaria cant self heal

wait i think i've already replied to this and the next msg

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yes but there's no reasons backing up the poe other than "others being more towny"

there is and it's linked with each post

star

if rolecop does all the work, then the goon wouldnt be seen moving

yes exactly

lord

Its not one post that makes or breaks it; it's multiple

so tracking aeo does not affect anything

anyhow

over a span of the entire game

oh unless aeo/zen are maf

no matter what we do now, ace will die

you have to look at the world holistically in order to see the bigger picture

and aeo wants tracker on them to make sure who kills hel next???

so its a matter of affect of voting or not

omg

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sorry just replying

yeah you are though tbh

star

so its a matter of affect of voting or not

effect

11:55 p.m.

god my spelling

a lot of these questions are just to scrutinize me, not to understand my perspective

hold on guyz

star

i said yesterday not today

huh..?

wait we can skip sleep?

Zen

Seems way smarter than how they're playing

wdym

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

huh..?

yesterday lynching wasn’t necessary

Being smart logically and being good at social deduction are very separate skillsets

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this is still a decent reason to townread someone but okay

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Wrong pronouns + Yes that is true mainly because I am being chronically tinfoiled, although also I think that I have been struggling to read around all the PRs

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thank you

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what

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ok lets say we don't lynch anyone d2 we would have zenith and hel out only for d3 we still would not have any progress since we don't know if pixel is maf or not -- for me i would still have pixel on my list and go for pixel which doesn't do anything since pixel is also not rly defending themself and that makes me more suspiscious on them??

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that's not dodging the question. That denying it to begin with.

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no one ever pushes truly randomly

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you guys all think I am insane at this game or something

11:59 p.m.

I'm not that good

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isn't it because the prs are going to die that we need to at least narrow down the list for tracker?

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why not?

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ok lets say we don't lynch anyone d2 we would have zenith and hel out only for d3 we still would not have any progress since we don't know if pixel is maf or not -- for me i would still have pixel on my list and go for pixel which doesn't do anything since pixel is also not rly defending themself and that makes me more suspiscious on them??

at least we have more people to figure out who to lynch off

like, I may have played over 50 games of forum mafia, but my mafia winrate is still 22% on my MU account and my town winrate is about 32% combined

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honestly i think maf could've just try to get on our good side without giving any info d1

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huhhhhh????

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isn't it because the prs are going to die that we need to at least narrow down the list for tracker?

but whats the point exactly? in the end they still could only track one person

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why didn't u vote aeo then (or did u idk)

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1255892130434515037 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1255886072227827744 this is what I hate

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why didn't u vote aeo then (or did u idk)

i did, but then i unvoted

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one of the reasons we did not want to vote aeo yet is because aeo could give us more info if aeo talks d3 - - unlike pixel/zen who won't give much info for us in chat -- my top sus was aeo - also the most possible groups d2 were pix/aeo or pix/zen -- pix was in both so i felt better voting pix than aeo/zen -- smth like that??

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ofc

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ofc

that means camryn

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umm we've established d1 that zenith's idea wouldn't work

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umm we've established d1 that zenith's idea wouldn't work

what idea, im not talking about role revealing

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Allow me to reiterate. To answer that question would be breaking game integrity rules. Trying to make a read based off of that is Angleshooting, also breaking game integrity rules. Not answering that question is the right thing to do in every scenario, because if you don't then it's not even a game of mafia anymore. If you don't, you say that it is acceptable to break rules to benefit you. If you don't refuse to answer the question, you show your true colors of your moral character, and it also will make people not want to play with you again. And if you're wondering why I am being very absolute with this, it's because that's the standard on Mafia Universe (MU) and 17th shard, and I believe it is very important to maintain regardless of where you are.

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where's aeo in this? no more sus on aeo?

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thank you

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star is a very easy push imo their playstyle and personality makes them very easy to chainsaw for a wolf

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gut reads aren't even read smh

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d1 or d2 d1 - yes ok i get your point d2??

do we have 48 hrs still

most of them are based on evidence

oh i am an easy target

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this is the tracker stuff btw

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d1 or d2 d1 - yes ok i get your point d2??

d2 if we didnt lynch, we would have 7 rn

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when is 'that exact time'?

NOT Aeroyi

gut reads aren't even read smh

ya i mean gut reads always develop from the behavior of others and assessing it but sometimes u assess it subconsciously and dont know why u feel a certain way

i would think so

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when is 'that exact time'?

d1

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no like, I understand why you want to self vote, I'm just saying that you need to develop a way with dealing with that which doesn't hinder the game

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wait lemme bump some posts

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^

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Okay???

NOT Aeroyi

no like, I understand why you want to self vote, I'm just saying that you need to develop a way with dealing with that which doesn't hinder the game

for what

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^

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I never said I wasn't

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you reply to me but it's all just tinfoil

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that's a great question

nooo half of these r saying message could not be loaded

12:10 a.m.

NOT Aeroyi

Being smart logically and being good at social deduction are very separate skillsets

yeah ofc but it's more so you seem good and experienced at sdgs and that's why i called u smart not book smart

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and aeo wants tracker on them to make sure who kills hel next???

what?

12:10 a.m.

I have gone over this multiple times

NOT Aeroyi

Wrong pronouns + Yes that is true mainly because I am being chronically tinfoiled, although also I think that I have been struggling to read around all the PRs

oop sry about the pronouns which do u prefer?

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ya i mean gut reads always develop from the behavior of others and assessing it but sometimes u assess it subconsciously and dont know why u feel a certain way

idk some people are good at gut reads

12:11 a.m.

I'm just not that great at them

Zen

yeah ofc but it's more so you seem good and experienced at sdgs and that's why i called u smart not book smart

Like, if I say "Optimal play is <thing>" that does not relate at all to my ability to decieve all of you

Zen

oop sry about the pronouns which do u prefer?

oh yeah I haven't specified have I

they have roles u can get in the server

12:12 a.m.

for pronouns

12:12 a.m.

if u want

12:13 a.m.

but n e ways im trying to read back replies and discord hates me i cant

idk @[𝙰𝙵𝙺] what's going on

12:13 a.m.

like you say that I am a wolf, yet you are more focused on swaying everyone else that way

12:14 a.m.

And half the time when you respond to me it does not show any thinking

12:14 a.m.

only conclusions

12:14 a.m.

like you wrote the end of the book before even writing

NOT Aeroyi

oh yeah I haven't specified have I

yaa still sorry tho <3

12:15 a.m.

pat pat

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

but n e ways im trying to read back replies and discord hates me i cant

uh

12:15 a.m.

I don't know how to fix that

12:16 a.m.

getting message links is much more difficult though

NOT Aeroyi

Like, if I say "Optimal play is <thing>" that does not relate at all to my ability to decieve all of you

yes but it's like watching an athlete or semi pro play compared to watching someone who doesn't do it much

NOT Aeroyi

Allow me to reiterate. To answer that question would be breaking game integrity rules. Trying to make a read based off of that is Angleshooting, also breaking game integrity rules. Not answering that question is the right thing to do in every scenario, because if you don't then it's not even a game of mafia anymore. If you don't, you say that it is acceptable to break rules to benefit you. If you don't refuse to answer the question, you show your true colors of your moral character, and it also will make people not want to play with you again. And if you're wondering why I am being very absolute with this, it's because that's the standard on Mafia Universe (MU) and 17th shard, and I believe it is very important to maintain regardless of where you are.

i get ur point but th moral character line is taking me out this is discord mafia blurry_crying

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i get ur point but th moral character line is taking me out this is discord mafia blurry_crying

my bad

12:16 a.m.

I probably overstepped that one

is kinda hard to explain btu u notice a difference and they have like a different "mood" about them and they play better too obvi

like

plus like u replied to not to long ago u did kinda teach me and others a fair bit

12:18 a.m.

like don't get me wrong i don't think ur the god mafia player or anything

12:18 a.m.

just

Zen

plus like u replied to not to long ago u did kinda teach me and others a fair bit

that is true

12:18 a.m.

But I mean other players have helped you too, namely Camryn and Helveria

r u leaning towards vting aeoliae here zen?

just more subtly

i think ur better town than u are at acting town is how i felt

Zen

i think ur better town than u are at acting town is how i felt

I don't think you could say "I'm a better town"

12:19 a.m.

because as a wolf

12:19 a.m.

I do not townside

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

r u leaning towards vting aeoliae here zen?

i mean i was already not too viby with them since day 2 but after how it ended yea

12:19 a.m.

i still am confused why no one else has brought that d2 end and d3 start up

NOT Aeroyi

I don't think you could say "I'm a better town"

like

12:19 a.m.

hm

star

where

idk where it was but I'll just say it again -i felt like zenith lynch had maf in it and maf could've just jumped on zenith since eod d1 or that maf just left it up to town for mislynch (for this my guess is maf is either in the 5 way tie d1 but doesn't feel threatened or maf wasn't in the tie) -d1 wagon was zen, pixel, ace okay so this was said during d2 so this thought could just be wrong -since pixel and ace are town -that leaves zen and zen started the wagon -zen could be maf voting zenith just to make the ppl in lynch list more or just want to add to the confusion -but hel also said they had 2 votes (which meant they would be first to be lynched off) and zen did not jump on the wagon on hel -zen could just do that to not be sussed on though imo

u know the motions of being town

I still think best course of action is to sleep this cycle

hm something to note is that zen/afk could be paired here based on day 3 behavior

star

zenith/pixelad

wdym and what did i ignore

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

hm something to note is that zen/afk could be paired here based on day 3 behavior

That's a reach there's a lot of banter between them though

12:20 a.m.

I feel like AFK would rather just, not talak

i thnk ur misunderstanding me lolz

star

but zen on top of the list

they just need one person to do the killing so if they make sure ace tracks aeo then zen can do the killing

NOT Aeroyi

I still think best course of action is to sleep this cycle

i mean is always better

12:21 a.m.

we do lose ace probs every time

12:21 a.m.

but

im not saying they are 300% paired im j saying that they are a potential team based on interactions

we get more talk time

and i think zen/aeoliae r p obviously not paired here

star

i kind of want a list of opinions

i do give it every day omg

unless that was staged

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

unless that was staged

https://tenor.com/xrow.gif

lmao

but i highly doubt it was

I mean who am I left to be paired with

12:22 a.m.

like

12:22 a.m.

Star?

thinking oBJECTIVELY me probs me

No, because of the d2 events

LOL

if it's star then sobs

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

idk where it was but I'll just say it again -i felt like zenith lynch had maf in it and maf could've just jumped on zenith since eod d1 or that maf just left it up to town for mislynch (for this my guess is maf is either in the 5 way tie d1 but doesn't feel threatened or maf wasn't in the tie) -d1 wagon was zen, pixel, ace okay so this was said during d2 so this thought could just be wrong -since pixel and ace are town -that leaves zen and zen started the wagon -zen could be maf voting zenith just to make the ppl in lynch list more or just want to add to the confusion -but hel also said they had 2 votes (which meant they would be first to be lynched off) and zen did not jump on the wagon on hel -zen could just do that to not be sussed on though imo

oh ok

I don't think it's star

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

they just need one person to do the killing so if they make sure ace tracks aeo then zen can do the killing

well then ok

if it is I will be taken away

i mean surely not right

no

star what?

it's not worth considering

NOT Aeroyi

it's not worth considering

well it's not complete write off

12:24 a.m.

but

It is, Zen

12:24 a.m.

it is a complete write off

its bad practice to write off anyone

probs better to think more abt after we get first maf

when weve been wrong every round lmfao

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

its bad practice to write off anyone

^

Star is the one player I will be writing off

12:25 a.m.

and I will be right

what does writing off mean

wow ur like rly smart ^_^

star

what does writing off mean

it means they think ur town and wont bother sussing u

oh

star

what does writing off mean

not considering posibility of them being wolf to make things exponentially simpler

NOT Aeroyi

not considering posibility of them being wolf to make things exponentially simpler

thats very advanced, but okay

AFK, Camryn, Zen, Star and Ace remain

12:26 a.m.

Ace and star are both town

12:26 a.m.

so now I have to look

which leaves 3

what is happening

ive been sayingggg a zen/afk team

12:26 a.m.

!!!!

@camryn (✿◠‿◠) Do you think AFK/Zen is viable

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

what is happening

We're putting the wolves in a box

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ive been sayingggg a zen/afk team

this one makes sense

a very small box

but i guess we can all agree on zen?

No

no

12:27 a.m.

ok

AFK first

oh why

damn star has it out for me

12:27 a.m.

lmao

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

but also they were sussed zen on the fact that they believed pixel/zen could be a scum pair

read from here down aeo

don't vote yet

12:27 a.m.

though

12:27 a.m.

so

ok

wait

12:27 a.m.

more things need to be considered

tbh with you

12:28 a.m.

if i was mafia

12:28 a.m.

i would not kill off tracker

12:28 a.m.

i would kill off the ones who talk most

what-

wut

what-

12:28 a.m.

um

12:28 a.m.

star

because they will be more likely to get it

the tracker is like an innocent child here we KNOW they are town

im statin

that's like

12:28 a.m.

a

no i meant

12:28 a.m.

if i were mafia

12:28 a.m.

i would not kill the tracker

yeah

12:28 a.m.

I mean it depends

high chances are, they might track the wrong person

because your partner would probably say otherwise

But I mean I could see you leaving the doc alive

that's the smartest thing

star i fear u r tweaking w that take

waiting to see what wall AFK is cooking up

star

high chances are, they might track the wrong person

right but killing others off just lessens the susupected people

NOT Aeroyi

waiting to see what wall AFK is cooking up

oh god they have been typing a while

12:30 a.m.

ur right

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

star i fear u r tweaking w that take

im doing it on purpose

like ok

also, my pfp is a seal because I lost a bet to stett in mafia champs spec chat

star is iconic at least?

Zen

right but killing others off just lessens the susupected people

it does, but it also confuses the town

NOT Aeroyi

also, my pfp is a seal because I lost a bet to stett in mafia champs spec chat

cute

star

it does, but it also confuses the town

yeah

NOT Aeroyi

also, my pfp is a seal because I lost a bet to stett in mafia champs spec chat

oh nice

12:30 a.m.

its cute

star

it does, but it also confuses the town

i think that might work better in a speed or live game

LIST OF ALIVE PLAYERS camryn (✿◠‿◠) Zen Aeoliae Ace! star [

]

i was wondering why you changed it

Zen

cute

this is what I make people's pfps into: https://imgur.com/km0OLsl

omg

here we'd have too long to clear stuff up

12:31 a.m.

also omg

12:31 a.m.

that's

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

LIST OF ALIVE PLAYERS camryn (✿◠‿◠) Zen Aeoliae Ace! star [

]

that's all...?

awful

12:31 a.m.

lmao

Zen

i think that might work better in a speed or live game

it might, but it also might work out

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

LIST OF ALIVE PLAYERS camryn (✿◠‿◠) Zen Aeoliae Ace! star [

]

also yeah i was expectng a bomb too

NOT Aeroyi

that's all...?

that is all

afk writing the player list

lmaoo

like why aren't we considering aeo in the list

they were pondering

Zen

awful

I have an imagr file of just random cursed things like this https://imgur.com/hQMl6wu

NOT Aeroyi

I have an imagr file of just random cursed things like this https://imgur.com/hQMl6wu

cute

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

like why aren't we considering aeo in the list

why are we not considering you

Zen

cute

no

NOT Aeroyi

why are we not considering you

never said we can't

it's wrong

NOT Aeroyi

why are we not considering you

aren't we considering both

12:32 a.m.

am confused

but im saying we should consider u too

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

never said we can't

AFK, how are you more towny than me though

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

like why aren't we considering aeo in the list

wdym havent they been pushed by u and zen here

12:32 a.m.

like i feel like ppl r considering it

12:32 a.m.

LOL

like

12:32 a.m.

AFK

12:32 a.m.

Who is my partner if I am scum

12:33 a.m.

your poe may be the size of an ocean, but it has the depth of a puddle

wouldn't it be cam or afk

star or me probs looking from afks pov

NOT Aeroyi

AFK, how are you more towny than me though

how am i supposed to answer you that

12:33 a.m.

in my pov im most towny

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

how am i supposed to answer you that

I want to hear your logic

???

NOT Aeroyi

your poe may be the size of an ocean, but it has the depth of a puddle

lets not be rude tho lol like b serious

tell me why I should townread you

NOT Aeroyi

your poe may be the size of an ocean, but it has the depth of a puddle

i sent the list of alive players, not my poe

~~what's poe again~~

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

i sent the list of alive players, not my poe

oh lol

NOT Aeroyi

Who is my partner if I am scum

zen

process of elimination

Zen

~~what's poe again~~

pool of elimination

oh-

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

zen

Hasn't zen voted on me, and pushed me?

huh i thought it was people of elim

lmao??

so

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

star or me probs looking from afks pov

NOT Aeroyi

Hasn't zen voted on me, and pushed me?

idk??

isn't that weirdly unpairing behavoir?

3 diff ones

didn't zen push you

12:35 a.m.

wait

12:35 a.m.

i read that wrong mb that's what u asked

NOT Aeroyi

Hasn't zen voted on me, and pushed me?

yes

12:35 a.m.

but that could just be distancing

anyways, back to the question

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

but that could just be distancing

that's not how this game works

o?

NOT Aeroyi

that's not how this game works

what

dont get nervous

Why should I find you town

you should find that ur self u can find me anything

AFK, stop deflecting the question. How should I find you town

by me trying to do my best in this game??

how?

12:37 a.m.

How does that correlate to your wincon?

i played this game seriously and came up with lots of reads to try to find maf??

12:38 a.m.

also wasted a lot of time in doing that

12:38 a.m.

rereading chat

12:38 a.m.

replying

you admitted you could only find one

whatever

Still

i even give reasons for everything

12:38 a.m.

and

you have none here?

?

I'll be honest, I don't find you towny

12:39 a.m.

So prove to me that you're town

my wincon is to eliminate all maf, as im not a pr i can only do reads and interact with others, and try to get info from these, what else do u want

12:40 a.m.

why don't u try to prove ur town

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

why don't u try to prove ur town

Sure

NOT Aeroyi

I'll be honest, I don't find you towny

from where

12:42 a.m.

why do u find me maf

shit

12:43 a.m.

am i not gonna meet the up

12:43 a.m.

uh*

There are no viable wolfteams that make sense if I am a mafia; Everyone has pushed me and put me in substantial danger before, and while you could pass that off as distancing, that's irrationally improbable. Additionally, I have tried to guide the town and the players to reach the correct conclusions, rather than doing it for them, like when I taught them optimal claiming play. If I was a wolf I would never do that. And on top of that, I also have a no motion scan on me, which does not clear me, but does put me in better standing than you.

thing

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

why do u find me maf

I've explained this countless times

NOT Aeroyi

There are no viable wolfteams that make sense if I am a mafia; Everyone has pushed me and put me in substantial danger before, and while you could pass that off as distancing, that's irrationally improbable. Additionally, I have tried to guide the town and the players to reach the correct conclusions, rather than doing it for them, like when I taught them optimal claiming play. If I was a wolf I would never do that. And on top of that, I also have a no motion scan on me, which does not clear me, but does put me in better standing than you.

adding in on this though, because afk gave a lot of info on d1, everyone believes they are townleaned

12:44 a.m.

which is weird how they never got doubted

12:44 a.m.

at all

aeo i will just say this the way ur approaching shit rn is incredibly abrasive and patronizing and i suggest u be a little bit nicer when u say shit like u can sus afk but the way ur coming at them and barraging is counter productive

also hey, afk you're in the mafia remastered server too aworryPartyTime

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

aeo i will just say this the way ur approaching shit rn is incredibly abrasive and patronizing and i suggest u be a little bit nicer when u say shit like u can sus afk but the way ur coming at them and barraging is counter productive

we should sleep today

12:45 a.m.

correct?

can we skip the night

12:45 a.m.

or no

12:45 a.m.

is that possible

We can skip to the night

what does sleeping today mean

either way, we know ace will die tonight

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

what does sleeping today mean

Voting no elimination/no lynch

but if ace somehow lives, please track someone you are sure will visit

12:46 a.m.

dont waste the track

12:46 a.m.

what does sleeping do for us

12:49 a.m.

like wed be in the same scenario

12:49 a.m.

tomorrow

12:49 a.m.

lmfao

true

12:49 a.m.

with one dead

12:49 a.m.

lol

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

like wed be in the same scenario

Yes

either way

12:49 a.m.

we gotta vote someone out

12:49 a.m.

it seems

12:49 a.m.

have to take the risk

but we'd have 48 more hours to make the correct decision

a

ohhh r we allowed to choose to sleep after these full 48 hrs pass

12:50 a.m.

i did not know that LOL

NOT Aeroyi

There are no viable wolfteams that make sense if I am a mafia; Everyone has pushed me and put me in substantial danger before, and while you could pass that off as distancing, that's irrationally improbable. Additionally, I have tried to guide the town and the players to reach the correct conclusions, rather than doing it for them, like when I taught them optimal claiming play. If I was a wolf I would never do that. And on top of that, I also have a no motion scan on me, which does not clear me, but does put me in better standing than you.

-you keep talking about wolfteams but what if you're just betting on the fact that we don't know how to team people up and in that sense we would be less motivated to push u cuz u keep asking about it and idk where im going with this i can't organise my thoughts rn -doesn't it make more sense that people are suspecting u because ur maf? -anyone can teach/guide players doesn't matter if you're town or wolf and you're not the only one doing it? if you're maf it would just give you +town points but i don't think we should just base it on that cuz where are your thoughts for eod1 and d2? -no motion scan doesn't do much so why should it put u in a better standing?

NOT Aeroyi

I've explained this countless times

where? can u link it for me

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

-you keep talking about wolfteams but what if you're just betting on the fact that we don't know how to team people up and in that sense we would be less motivated to push u cuz u keep asking about it and idk where im going with this i can't organise my thoughts rn -doesn't it make more sense that people are suspecting u because ur maf? -anyone can teach/guide players doesn't matter if you're town or wolf and you're not the only one doing it? if you're maf it would just give you +town points but i don't think we should just base it on that cuz where are your thoughts for eod1 and d2? -no motion scan doesn't do much so why should it put u in a better standing?

But you guys can. You've shown that ypu have the capacity to comp solve, Camyrn definitely has the best way to solve, and besides, you're still missing the point that it doesn't make sense if the most viable world is the one where my own teammate is pushing me.
I am trying to say that if I am mafia, I have to have a partner. Where is that partner?
Yes, true, I suppose so.
I mean you don't have a no motion scan so it's basic statistics imo

star

which is weird how they never got doubted

it is weird but its better to trust me than others cuz ik im town isn't it weirder that i was sussing aeo and now they're sussing me back when they did not say anything about sussing me earlier?

oh hell

12:54 a.m.

more reading

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

it is weird but its better to trust me than others cuz ik im town isn't it weirder that i was sussing aeo and now they're sussing me back when they did not say anything about sussing me earlier?

When was earlier?

12:54 a.m.

Yesterday at 5 in the morning?

12:54 a.m.

When you replied to me?

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

it is weird but its better to trust me than others cuz ik im town isn't it weirder that i was sussing aeo and now they're sussing me back when they did not say anything about sussing me earlier?

not sure

1:00 a.m.

did everyone just disappear PEPEhmmsus

1:00 a.m.

im still energtic ):

1:06 a.m.

being honest

1:06 a.m.

i feel like even if we talk for another 1 week, we'll still be at the same place

1:06 a.m.

why not just take a risk and vote

1:07 a.m.

if mafia wins, then okay, they are really good gg

1:07 a.m.

if town wins, then gg,

1:07 a.m.

what we are all sure is that ace will die

NOT Aeroyi

When was earlier?

before today, before u finally replied to my pings

star

did everyone just disappear PEPEhmmsus

im back

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

before today, before u finally replied to my pings

I replied to them earlier too

2:15 a.m.

Before I hammered

2:15 a.m.

Smh

what

2:15 a.m.

mb i did not see

2:15 a.m.

let me check

NOT Aeroyi

Before I hammered

i assume this is on star?

2:17 a.m.

i don't see anything?

NOT Aeroyi

YES

this was today (for me)

2:19 a.m.

before this there's no pings or any indication u think im maf

2:20 a.m.

if you don't know how to check just do this

check

what

NOT Aeroyi

MY GOD CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN, LIKE, 15 TIMES IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE

Here

that's replying to hel

2:21 a.m.

also i keep seeing you say you have written/replied but idk where u mean every time

oh right

2:22 a.m.

I remembered I didn't want to deal with this game and then hammered

???

2:22 a.m.

wdym u didn't want to deal with this game and hammered

NOT Aeroyi

I replied to them earlier too

anyways yeah can you just reply to those msges here

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

anyways yeah can you just reply to those msges here

I did already regardless

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

wdym u didn't want to deal with this game and hammered

I saw that people were tinfoiling again

2:24 a.m.

So I decided to extinguish the fire

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

anyways yeah can you just reply to those msges here

can you reply to your msges to let me jump to your msges

2:24 a.m.

like this

NOT Aeroyi

I saw that people were tinfoiling again

what is tinfoiling

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

what is tinfoiling

That's like

2:24 a.m.

Paranoia

2:24 a.m.

Like

NOT Aeroyi

So I decided to extinguish the fire

i don't see how hammering solves the problem here

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

what is tinfoiling

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Tinfoil

Tinfoil

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

i don't see how hammering solves the problem here

I really thought pixel was a mafia

NOT Aeroyi

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Tinfoil

?

And I didn't want town to go off course

NOT Aeroyi

I really thought pixel was a mafia

you hammered star though??

2:26 a.m.

wait huh

What? No

oh eod d2

2:27 a.m.

okay continue?

2:28 a.m.

idk what to say ugh

NOT Aeroyi

I really thought pixel was a mafia

ok yes we were hammering pixel because we thought they were maf -- checking back on convo, this convo is pointless and doesn't go anywhere -- i misunderstood what u meant by hammer

NOT Aeroyi

Here

so do you have anything else to like say about this since it was a post to hel

I'm muting this channel now

what

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main events that happened sod d3 -lylo -ace tracked aeo -zen onto aeo -star convo

i've reread chat a couple times now -haven't had any time to get back on this (what im replying to) -had a lots of thoughts on d3 but i need time to organise them (probs tonight) -rly need to iso aeo because most of the things they say they did is very different from what i remember -i want to look into aeo/zen again and go through their posts -i sus both of them but if we're talking about pairs i'd need to rethink it since everyone says its impossible -if y'all can please just read my previous reads on aeo and zen cuz rn i only have my previous reads -a conclusion i have gotten to for now is that me and aeo are on different channels - the way i'd do things and the way they'd do things / or our thought processes/attitudes towards this game / are rly different which is one of the biggest issue for me cuz when i read their posts it just doesn't sit right with me -also kinda just tired with this chat today cuz i feel like aeo seems to be simply dismissing my points and pushing it back on me

What if it's camryn + Zen?

then we should just vote zen out

NOT Aeroyi

What if it's camryn + Zen?

any reasons or just poe

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then we should just vote zen out

this would be something we might all agree on

11:04 a.m.

im not dure

11:04 a.m.

sure

11:05 a.m.

we could take a risk and vote her off

think p

oop star hyper posting

2:07 p.m.

dammy

2:07 p.m.

conga rats

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then we should just vote zen out

if zen is the common denominator here they r probs the best push yea ily tho zen

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

if zen is the common denominator here they r probs the best push yea ily tho zen

okay but in my view i'm mafia in literally none of the teams

2:23 p.m.

2:23 p.m.

lmao

2:23 p.m.

but hm

2:23 p.m.

i'm not gonna get all rowdy abt it

2:23 p.m.

cuz

2:23 p.m.

bleh

2:24 p.m.

but for me is probs aeo with afk no?

Zen

okay but in my view i'm mafia in literally none of the teams

a lot of the teams being discussed r me/u afk/u

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

a lot of the teams being discussed r me/u afk/u

wait why me and y'all

idk afk and aeo threw it out

2:24 p.m.

lmfao

2:24 p.m.

what lmao

2:25 p.m.

okay damn

thats why i said ur the common denominator but its still worth considering a star/aeo scum team

2:25 p.m.

so im not locked to it

2:26 p.m.

but pairing wise IMO

2:26 p.m.

the pairs that make sense r

i mean i know am not the most active cuz busy with other stuffs (altho org just ended like an hour ago now so should be less busy besides work hopefully :> )

2:26 p.m.

but i do be trying

aeo/star aeo/camryn afk/zen cam/zen

2:26 p.m.

even tho indont understand how

2:27 p.m.

ppl read u and me as paired LMFAOOO

2:27 p.m.

but its ok ^_^

bleh maybe i am dumb

2:28 p.m.

cuz like i def feel right in the aeo stuff

2:29 p.m.

but i also have no clue who the other maf would be

2:29 p.m.

like obv not ace

2:29 p.m.

and idk people were pushing back so hard at even star mention of being evil and like that seems right to me too

2:29 p.m.

so like is just u and afk then

2:30 p.m.

and i have no reason to even suspect y'all either way but one of y'all should probs be evil

2:30 p.m.

oh well

2:30 p.m.

welp all i'm set on is it being aeo

2:31 p.m.

if that's somehow wrong and it's like cam and afk both thennn

2:31 p.m.

uh this game was lost anyways

2:31 p.m.

sobs

I keep reading aeo as my name..

oop sorry

2:38 p.m.

aeo name too long to type every time lmao

2:38 p.m.

am a bit lazyy

oh

ace! ★

I keep reading aeo as my name..

do you have any clue?

Zen

aeo name too long to type every time lmao

Oh dw!

star

do you have any clue?

Absolutely not ill have to reread

wellllll also

2:40 p.m.

can i say

2:40 p.m.

no matter who we vote off, it’s a gamble

2:40 p.m.

only the mafia knows what will happened

2:41 p.m.

to the town people, they dont know if they are voting off the right person

ace! ★

Absolutely not ill have to reread

oof

2:41 p.m.

but anyways, no matter how much longer we discuss, its not like the mafia will change

2:41 p.m.

so the least we could do is vote based on evidence

2:41 p.m.

2:42 p.m.

(which means just go with your guts)

i mean from what i see afk is either maf or town personally

ace! ★

i mean from what i see afk is either maf or town personally

2:51 p.m.

isn't that

2:51 p.m.

the only two roles

thats not

2:52 p.m.

answering anything though

2:52 p.m.

star

so the least we could do is vote based on evidence

also star we should just use all our discussion time

im saying shes nulled fully to me

no need to rush the vote

ace! ★

im saying shes nulled fully to me

ohhh that makes more sense

2:52 p.m.

lmao

im trying to think based off what ive seen

Zen

also star we should just use all our discussion time

ok

2:53 p.m.

even if you’re dying though ace

2:54 p.m.

do talk

2:54 p.m.

it could be aeo; bc they had be track them , they knew they woudl just do nothing, but i dont think so. i think they were being a bitter town saying that

2:54 p.m.

could be very wrong

thats true

2:55 p.m.

thats why that track was a little wasted

2:56 p.m.

ig mafia knew what was happening

ace! ★

it could be aeo; bc they had be track them , they knew they woudl just do nothing, but i dont think so. i think they were being a bitter town saying that

i mean maybe but if it was just bitter town

2:57 p.m.

then i don't get

2:57 p.m.

why they started today of

get what

off

2:57 p.m.

with like

like

tryna clear themselves

2:57 p.m.

with that useless track

2:58 p.m.

like

2:58 p.m.

that's

2:58 p.m.

beyond bitter town if u ask me

2:58 p.m.

esp with a 24hr break in between too

tough decision

3:01 p.m.

3:01 p.m.

the people who died have a easier time catsit

Zen

but for me is probs aeo with afk no?

What?

3:03 p.m.

That's like

impossibel

The most bizarre pairing you could make

impossible

for me its one or the othe r

NOT Aeroyi

The most bizarre pairing you could make

imagine all that fighting catto_ohmy

That's like saying "Ace + Star is the wolf team"

NOT Aeroyi

That's like saying "Ace + Star is the wolf team"

thats insane

ace! ★

for me its one or the othe r

who?

NOT Aeroyi

That's like saying "Ace + Star is the wolf team"

plot teist we are

no joke but

3:04 p.m.

~~mafia probably laughing at us so bad rn~~ catto_ohmy

real

day 3 and we still haven’t even gotten 1 mafia out

NOT Aeroyi

What?

eh either way i could see it being u with either afk or cam

no clue who cuz i don't really fucking know other maf like i said

3:06 p.m.

but for you aeo

3:06 p.m.

yeah

im starting to wonder if this is really a newcomer game pepemeltdown

3:06 p.m.

the sp was easier at some point

pat pat

3:07 p.m.

i mean it's very newbie friendly i think

3:07 p.m.

deaths are all revealed

not for me pepemeltdown

easy scripts

3:07 p.m.

idk

i only play games with actions

would have been worse if no roles revealed on death

the ones with no actions, i suck pepemeltdown

star

the ones with no actions, i suck pepemeltdown

hugs

3:08 p.m.

kinda same but with more

3:08 p.m.

actual gameplay ones

3:08 p.m.

over just action based ones like tos

3:08 p.m.

actually catching people in the act is so much more of a thrill

Zen

deaths are all revealed

Why would they not

NOT Aeroyi

Why would they not

in short games they arent

I played 1 flipless game (witch hunt) and they are just different

NOT Aeroyi

Why would they not

cuz in other games u can have them not be

3:09 p.m.

?

3:09 p.m.

wut

Yeah

other games have wills

But I mean it's uncommon, right

and if they dont write it, cant help

NOT Aeroyi

But I mean it's uncommon, right

nopeee

3:09 p.m.

its very common catto_ohmy

NOT Aeroyi

But I mean it's uncommon, right

uhh not really for video game sdg

star

other games have wills

Ohhhh so that's how they get around the flipless obstacles

it's way more common to have nothing

3:09 p.m.

in those

NOT Aeroyi

Ohhhh so that's how they get around the flipless obstacles

yeah, the roles could be chosen to be revealed

3:09 p.m.

but no fun in that

I played a game where it was supposed to be flipless but it wasn't

you’ve never played the mafia bot on discord?

i mean most video games i play have it be more like

That and it was basically 4 wolves versus 200 town in the form of the unholy Abomination

you know someone did die

3:10 p.m.

but not who

3:10 p.m.

or what role they were

i know if you play flicker it doesnt

3:10 p.m.

(roblox one)

and you basically need to talk to people to figure it outs

star

you’ve never played the mafia bot on discord?

Not really? I'm more of a longform player

NOT Aeroyi

Not really? I'm more of a longform player

ohh

NOT Aeroyi

That and it was basically 4 wolves versus 200 town in the form of the unholy Abomination

3:10 p.m.

that sounds pain

you should try the short ones

Zen

It was no contest in the end

3:11 p.m.

The host was kind

star

you should try the short ones

I've played many turbos on MU and they are quite difficult

idk what those are

shortform games require much different skills than longform ones and I have huge respect for people who play them

but there is a mafia bot on discord (like this one) and they host short ones

star

idk what those are

Short games ~10 players that last about an hour in length

the few mafia speeds i've played i've always been pretty drunk

NOT Aeroyi

Short games ~10 players that last about an hour in length

the one im talking about is 25 players lasting 30 minutes to 2 hours

and it makes it pretty funs

3:13 p.m.

like 1-2 hour games

im currently in one

3:13 p.m.

~~i died~~ pepemeltdown

F

i suck at gaslighting frogtea

NOT Aeroyi

shortform games require much different skills than longform ones and I have huge respect for people who play them

they are easier, with more roles that give info

star

they are easier, with more roles that give info

Meh

im joking

3:14 p.m.

i died like 700 times

3:14 p.m.

im so done

they normally end up really cursed

3:15 p.m.

Like

There was one game where 40% of rhe players were millers, which was a 0.0625% chance There was one game where my wolf buddy contacted me unknowingly because he didn't see I was a lost wolf

3:16 p.m.

Do any of you play on Mafia.gg?

dang

3:19 p.m.

no

3:19 p.m.

wait

3:19 p.m.

whats mafia.gg

a website

oh

i don'ttt either

...

11:41 p.m.

vore sleep

hi

NOT Aeroyi

Do any of you play on Mafia.gg?

Like 5 games

NOT Aeroyi

Do any of you play on Mafia.gg?

its dead lol

8:09 a.m.

i actually went there to see if i could join any quick games then found out its dead

8:10 a.m.

that was before i joined this server

star

but there is a mafia bot on discord (like this one) and they host short ones

yess its more fun

8:16 a.m.

oh right prods

8:16 a.m.

haven't been on all day

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haven't been on all day

tbf i don't think really anyone has

8:21 a.m.

we all decided we'd be very active the first 24hrs

8:21 a.m.

and now super quiet lol

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its dead lol

have u heard of 5up

no

I played a bunch of games on M.gg with a bunch of 5uppers and it was really fun

what is that

5 up community discord server

8:26 a.m.

I think it's a place dedicated to an amongii streamer?

ohh 5up

8:27 a.m.

i used to watch some of their vids when the amogus craze was all abouts

Yeah

oh

8:28 a.m.

i played mafia.gg with some online friends before back when we didn't need to log in to play

gn guys

oop

11:09 a.m.

night

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yess its more fun

have you played on it? ive never seen you in the server

Zen

and now super quiet lol

i think we all gave up catsit

12:05 p.m.

if we skip the day, isnt it just going to be the same, but with one less person? FLOOFconfusion

why not take the risk and vote someone out pepeHmm

lmao

12:41 p.m.

star loves gamba

Zen

star loves gamba

1:48 p.m.

winning or losing doesnt do much anyways

a few seconds left

1:59 p.m.

EOD

Start of Day 4

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-07-01 1:42 p.m.

@Alive Line NE speak

here we are

2:01 p.m.

back again

2:01 p.m.

everyone disappeared nom

2:02 p.m.

omg

2:04 p.m.

so cute

2:04 p.m.

5:06 p.m.

come on, someone give info pepemeltdown

okay

7:24 p.m.

who's alive

7:24 p.m.

who's dea

NOT Aeroyi

who's alive

you. me, zen, camyrn, afk

NOT Aeroyi

who's dea

everyone else is dead

welp

9:30 p.m.

more time to talky talks

Eow

9:33 p.m.

Don't vote pls

9:57 p.m.

why do you keep saying to not voe

9:57 p.m.

vote

i don't want to be prodded

10:00 p.m.

that's literally all

skull

10:03 p.m.

anyways

10:03 p.m.

let's make sure we vote today tho pls

10:03 p.m.

like

10:03 p.m.

d3

10:04 p.m.

i was the only one who actually had a registered vote

10:04 p.m.

if i was mafia there town would have just lost

10:04 p.m.

so

10:04 p.m.

pls

10:04 p.m.

remember to vote this time around

NOT Aeroyi

i don't want to be prodded

i dont think we would

1:32 a.m.

can ask laga

the rules for prods have not changed

1:41 a.m.

it’s still 20 messages per 24 hours

1:43 a.m.

and Zen’s method of writing one word per line ^^^ FacepalmLmao

1:43 a.m.

is not the solution

oh yeah but

1:43 a.m.

that's just

1:44 a.m.

how i normally type

1:44 a.m.

lmao

So do I

1:44 a.m.

sometimes

uwu

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

it’s still 20 messages per 24 hours

Still game related or not

should be yea?

1:53 a.m.

why would it change

um

1:54 a.m.

Idk

1:54 a.m.

I'm just trying to reach the post min

1:54 a.m.

Meow

shjsjh

1:54 a.m.

kitty cat

1:54 a.m.

:3

cute

1:55 a.m.

I've been told this is void

who's void

A player from mu

1:56 a.m.

We were wolfing together once

1:56 a.m.

And he changed his pfp to a catboy maid

1:56 a.m.

And it pocketed everyone and

1:56 a.m.

We won

lmaoo

1:56 a.m.

the ultimate tactic

and then on another game that was ongoing at the same time

1:57 a.m.

He won on his alt account literally called meow meow

1:58 a.m.

Which prompted this

NOT Aeroyi

Still game related or not

They need to be game related

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

They need to be game related

PART ONE Chapter 1 It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. Winston Smith, his chin nuzzled into his breast in an effort to escape the vile wind, slipped quickly through the glass doors of Victory Mansions, though not quickly enough to prevent a swirl of gritty dust from entering along with him. The hallway smelt of boiled cabbage and old rag mats. At one end of it a coloured poster, too large for indoor display, had been tacked to the wall. It depicted simply an enormous face, more than a metre wide: the face of a man of about forty-five, with a heavy black moustache and ruggedly handsome features. Winston made for the stairs. It was no use trying the lift. Even at the best of times it was seldom working, and at present the electric current was cut off during daylight hours. It was part of the economy drive in preparation for Hate Week. The flat was seven flights up, and Winston, who was thirty-nine and had a varicose ulcer above his right ankle, went slowly, resting several times on the way. On each landing, opposite the lift-shaft, the poster with the enormous face gazed from the wall. It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that the eyes follow you about when you move. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, the caption beneath it ran.

2:01 a.m.

Inside the flat a fruity voice was reading out a list of figures which had something to do with the production of pig-iron. The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely. He moved over to the window: a smallish, frail figure, the meagreness of his body merely emphasized by the blue overalls which were the uniform of the party. His hair was very fair, his face naturally sanguine, his skin roughened by coarse soap and blunt razor blades and the cold of the winter that had just ended. Outside, even through the shut window-pane, the world looked cold. Down in the street little eddies of wind were whirling dust and torn paper into spirals, and though the sun was shining and the sky a harsh blue, there seemed to be no colour in anything, except the posters that were plastered everywhere. The black-moustachio'd face gazed down from every commanding corner. There was one on the house-front immediately opposite. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, the caption said, while the dark eyes looked deep into .

2:01 a.m.

Winston's own. Down at street level another poster, torn at one corner, flapped fitfully in the wind, alternately covering and uncovering the single word INGSOC. In the far distance a helicopter skimmed down between the roofs, hovered for an instant like a bluebottle, and darted away again with a curving flight. It was the police patrol, snooping into people's windows. The patrols did not matter, however. Only the Thought Police mattered. Behind Winston's back the voice from the telescreen was still babbling away about pig-iron and the overfulfilment of the Ninth Three-Year Plan. The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live--did live, from habit that became instinct--in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized

NOT Aeroyi

PART ONE Chapter 1 It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. Winston Smith, his chin nuzzled into his breast in an effort to escape the vile wind, slipped quickly through the glass doors of Victory Mansions, though not quickly enough to prevent a swirl of gritty dust from entering along with him. The hallway smelt of boiled cabbage and old rag mats. At one end of it a coloured poster, too large for indoor display, had been tacked to the wall. It depicted simply an enormous face, more than a metre wide: the face of a man of about forty-five, with a heavy black moustache and ruggedly handsome features. Winston made for the stairs. It was no use trying the lift. Even at the best of times it was seldom working, and at present the electric current was cut off during daylight hours. It was part of the economy drive in preparation for Hate Week. The flat was seven flights up, and Winston, who was thirty-nine and had a varicose ulcer above his right ankle, went slowly, resting several times on the way. On each landing, opposite the lift-shaft, the poster with the enormous face gazed from the wall. It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that the eyes follow you about when you move. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, the caption beneath it ran.

Surely this is not 1984 again right

okay now I prolly have more posts than most players

2:02 a.m.

carry on

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

carry on

Winston kept his back turned to the telescreen. It was safer; though, as he well knew, even a back can be revealing. A kilometre away the Ministry of Truth, his place of work, towered vast and white above the grimy landscape. This, he thought with a sort of vague distaste--this was London, chief city of Airstrip One, itself the third most populous of the provinces of Oceania. He tried to squeeze out some childhood memory that should tell him whether London had always been quite like this. Were there always these vistas of rotting nineteenth-century houses, their sides shored up with baulks of timber, their windows patched with cardboard and their roofs with corrugated iron, their crazy garden walls sagging in all directions? And the bombed sites where the plaster dust swirled in the air and the willow-herb straggled over the heaps of rubble; and the places where the bombs had cleared a larger patch and there had sprung up sordid colonies of wooden dwellings like chicken-houses? But it was no use, he could not remember: nothing remained of his childhood except a series of bright-lit tableaux occurring against no background and mostly unintelligible. The Ministry of Truth--Minitrue, in Newspeak [Newspeak was the official language of Oceania. For an account of its structure and etymology see Appendix.]--was startlingly different from any other object in sight. It was an enormous pyramidal structure of glittering white concrete, soaring up, terrace after terrace, 300 metres into the air. From where Winston stood it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face in elegant lettering, the three slogans of the Party: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

2:04 a.m.

Winston turned round abruptly. He had set his features into the expression of quiet optimism which it was advisable to wear when facing the telescreen. He crossed the room into the tiny kitchen. By leaving the Ministry at this time of day he had sacrificed his lunch in the canteen, and he was aware that there was no food in the kitchen except a hunk of dark-coloured bread which had got to be saved for tomorrow's breakfast. He took down from the shelf a bottle of colourless liquid with a plain white label marked VICTORY GIN. It gave off a sickly, oily smell, as of Chinese rice-spirit. Winston poured out nearly a teacupful, nerved himself for a shock, and gulped it down like a dose of medicine. Instantly his face turned scarlet and the water ran out of his eyes. The stuff was like nitric acid, and moreover, in swallowing it one had the sensation of being hit on the back of the head with a rubber club. The next moment, however, the burning in his belly died down and the world began to look more cheerful. He took a cigarette from a crumpled packet marked VICTORY CIGARETTES and incautiously held it upright, whereupon the tobacco fell out on to the floor. With the next he was more successful. He went back to the living-room and sat down at a small table that stood to the left of the telescreen. From the table drawer he took out a penholder, a bottle of ink, and a thick, quarto-sized blank book with a red back and a marbled cover.

2:04 a.m.

strictly kept, because there were various things, such as shoelaces and razor blades, which it was impossible to get hold of in any other way. He had given a quick glance up and down the street and then had slipped inside and bought the book for two dollars fifty. At the time he was not conscious of wanting it for any particular purpose. He had carried it guiltily home in his briefcase. Even with nothing written in it, it was a compromising possession. The thing that he was about to do was to open a diary. This was not illegal (nothing was illegal, since there were no longer any laws), but if detected it was reasonably certain that it would be punished by death, or at least by twenty-five years in a forced-labour camp. Winston fitted a nib into the penholder and sucked it to get the grease off. The pen was an archaic instrument, seldom used even for signatures, and he had procured one, furtively and with some difficulty, simply because of a feeling that the beautiful creamy paper deserved to be written on with a real nib instead of being scratched with an ink-pencil. Actually he was not used to writing by hand. Apart from very short notes, it was usual to dictate everything into the speak-write which was of course impossible for his present purpose. He dipped the pen into the ink and then faltered for just a second. A tremor had gone through his bowels. To mark the paper was the decisive act. In small clumsy letters he wrote:

aeo has gone mental

2:05 a.m.

lmao

April 4th, 1984. He sat back. A sense of complete helplessness had descended upon him. To begin with, he did not know with any certainty that this was 1984. It must be round about that date, since he was fairly sure that his age was thirty-nine, and he believed that he had been born in 1944 or 1945; but it was never possible nowadays to pin down any date within a year or two. For whom, it suddenly occurred to him to wonder, was he writing this diary? For the future, for the unborn. His mind hovered for a moment round the doubtful date on the page, and then fetched up with a bump against the Newspeak word DOUBLETHINK. For the first time the magnitude of what he had undertaken came home to him. How could you communicate with the future? It was of its nature impossible. Either the future would resemble the present, in which case it would not listen to him: or it would be different from it, and his predicament would be meaningless.

2:05 a.m.

water like a porpoise, then you saw him through the helicopters gunsights, then he was full of holes and the sea round him turned pink and he sank as suddenly as though the holes had let in the water, audience shouting with laughter when he sank. then you saw a lifeboat full of children with a helicopter hovering over it. there was a middle-aged woman might have been a jewess sitting up in the bow with a little boy about three years old in her arms. little boy screaming with fright and hiding his head between her breasts as if he was trying to burrow right into her and the woman putting her arms round him and comforting him although she was blue with fright herself, all the time covering him up as much as possible as if she thought her arms could keep the bullets off him. then the helicopter planted a 20 kilo bomb in among them terrific flash and the boat went all to matchwood. then there was a wonderful shot of a child's arm going up up up right up into the air a helicopter with a camera in its nose must have followed it up and there was a lot of applause from the party seats but a woman down in the prole part of the house suddenly started kicking up a fuss and shouting they didnt oughter of showed it not in front of kids they didnt it aint right not in front of kids it aint until the police turned her turned her out i dont suppose anything happened to her nobody cares what the proles say typical prole reaction they never----

2:06 a.m.

wound several times round the waist of her overalls, just tightly enough to bring out the shapeliness of her hips. Winston had disliked her from the very first moment of seeing her. He knew the reason. It was because of the atmosphere of hockey-fields and cold baths and community hikes and general clean-mindedness which she managed to carry about with her. He disliked nearly all women, and especially the young and pretty ones. It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy. But this particular girl gave him the impression of being more dangerous than most. Once when they passed in the corridor she gave him a quick sidelong glance which seemed to pierce right into him and for a moment had filled him with black terror. The idea had even crossed his mind that she might be an agent of the Thought Police. That, it was true, was very unlikely. Still, he continued to feel a peculiar uneasiness, which had fear mixed up in it as well as hostility, whenever she was anywhere near him.

2:06 a.m.

The next moment a hideous, grinding screech, as of some monstrous machine running without oil, burst from the big telescreen at the end of the room. It was a noise that set one's teeth on edge and bristled the hair at the back of one's neck. The Hate had started. As usual, the face of Emmanuel Goldstein, the Enemy of the People, had flashed on to the screen. There were hisses here and there among the audience. The little sandy-haired woman gave a squeak of mingled fear and disgust. Goldstein was the renegade and backslider who once, long ago (how long ago, nobody quite remembered), had been one of the leading figures of the Party, almost on a level with Big Brother himself, and then had engaged in counter-revolutionary activities, had been condemned to death, and had mysteriously escaped and disappeared. The programmes of the Two Minutes Hate varied from day to day, but there was none in which Goldstein was not the principal figure. He was the primal traitor, the earliest defiler of the Party's purity. All subsequent crimes against the Party, all treacheries, acts of sabotage, heresies, deviations, sprang directly out of his teaching. Somewhere or other he was still alive and hatching his conspiracies: perhaps somewhere beyond the sea, under the protection of his foreign paymasters, perhaps even--so it was occasionally rumoured--in some hiding-place in Oceania itself.

2:07 a.m.

or Eastasia, since when Oceania was at war with one of these Powers it was generally at peace with the other. But what was strange was that although Goldstein was hated and despised by everybody, although every day and a thousand times a day, on platforms, on the telescreen, in newspapers, in books, his theories were refuted, smashed, ridiculed, held up to the general gaze for the pitiful rubbish that they were--in spite of all this, his influence never seemed to grow less. Always there were fresh dupes waiting to be seduced by him. A day never passed when spies and saboteurs acting under his directions were not unmasked by the Thought Police. He was the commander of a vast shadowy army, an underground network of conspirators dedicated to the overthrow of the State. The Brotherhood, its name was supposed to be. There were also whispered stories of a terrible book, a compendium of all the heresies, of which Goldstein was the author and which circulated clandestinely here and there. It was a book without a title. People referred to it, if at all, simply as THE BOOK. But one knew of such things only through vague rumours. Neither the Brotherhood nor THE BOOK was a subject that any ordinary Party member would mention if there was a way of avoiding it.

2:08 a.m.

of Asia, and Goldstein, in spite of his isolation, his helplessness, and the doubt that hung about his very existence, seemed like some sinister enchanter, capable by the mere power of his voice of wrecking the structure of civilization. It was even possible, at moments, to switch one's hatred this way or that by a voluntary act. Suddenly, by the sort of violent effort with which one wrenches one's head away from the pillow in a nightmare, Winston succeeded in transferring his hatred from the face on the screen to the dark-haired girl behind him. Vivid, beautiful hallucinations flashed through his :

2:08 a.m.

mind. He would flog her to death with a rubber truncheon. He would tie her naked to a stake and shoot her full of arrows like Saint Sebastian. He would ravish her and cut her throat at the moment of climax. Better than before, moreover, he realized WHY it was that he hated her. He hated her because she was young and pretty and sexless, because he wanted to go to bed with her and would never do so, because round her sweet supple waist, which seemed to ask you to encircle it with your arm, there was only the odious scarlet sash, aggressive symbol of chastity. The Hate rose to its climax. The voice of Goldstein had become an actual sheep's bleat, and for an instant the face changed into that of a sheep. Then the sheep-face melted into the figure of a Eurasian soldier who seemed to be advancing, huge and terrible, his sub-machine gun roaring, and seeming to spring out of the surface of the screen, so that some of the people in the front row actually flinched backwards in their seats. But in the same moment, drawing a deep sigh of relief from everybody, the hostile figure melted into the face of Big Brother, black-haired, black-moustachio'd, full of power and mysterious calm, and so vast that it almost filled up the screen. Nobody heard what Big Brother was saying. It was merely a few words of encouragement, the sort of words that are uttered in the din of battle, not distinguishable individually but restoring confidence by the fact of being spoken. Then the face of Big Brother faded away again, and instead the three slogans of the Party stood out in bold capitals

2:09 a.m.

this sub-human chanting of 'B-B!...B-B!' always filled him with horror. Of course he chanted with the rest: it was impossible to do otherwise. To dissemble your feelings, to control your face, to do what everyone else was doing, was an instinctive reaction. But there was a space of a couple of seconds during which the expression of his eyes might conceivably have betrayed him. And it was exactly at this moment that the significant thing happened--if, indeed, it did happen. Momentarily he caught O'Brien's eye. O'Brien had stood up. He had taken off his spectacles and was in the act of resettling them on his nose with his characteristic gesture. But there was a fraction of a second when their eyes met, and for as long as it took to happen Winston knew--yes, he KNEW!--that O'Brien was thinking the same thing as himself. An unmistakable message had passed. It was as though their two minds had opened and the thoughts were flowing from one into the other through their eyes. 'I am with you,' O'Brien seemed to be saying to him. 'I know precisely what you are feeling. I know all about your contempt, your hatred, your disgust. But don't worry, I am on your side!' And then the flash of intelligence was gone, and O'Brien's face was as inscrutable as everybody else's.

2:09 a.m.

automatic action. And it was no longer the same cramped, awkward handwriting as before. His pen had slid voluptuously over the smooth paper, printing in large neat capitals-- DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER over and over again, filling half a page. He could not help feeling a twinge of panic. It was absurd, since the writing of those particular words was not more dangerous than the initial act of opening the diary, but for a moment he was tempted to tear out the spoiled pages and abandon the enterprise altogether. He did not do so, however, because he knew that it was useless. Whether he wrote DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, or whether he refrained from writing it, made no difference. Whether he went on with the diary, or whether he did not go on with it, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed--would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper--the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed for ever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you.

2:09 a.m.

It was always at night--the arrests invariably happened at night. The sudden jerk out of sleep, the rough hand shaking your shoulder, the lights glaring in your eyes, the ring of hard faces round the bed. In the vast majority of cases there was no trial, no report of the arrest. People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: VAPORIZED was the usual word. For a moment he was seized by a kind of hysteria. He began writing in a hurried untidy scrawl: theyll shoot me i don't care theyll shoot me in the back of the neck i dont care down with big brother they always shoot you in the back of the neck i dont care down with big brother---- He sat back in his chair, slightly ashamed of himself, and laid down the pen. The next moment he started violently. There was a knocking at the door. Already! He sat as still as a mouse, in the futile hope that whoever it was might go away after a single attempt. But no, the knocking was repeated. The worst thing of all would be to delay. His heart was thumping like a drum, but his face, from long habit, was probably expressionless. He got up and moved heavily towards the door.

2:10 a.m.

# are we ready for chapter 2?

lmfao chat has derailed

NOT Aeroyi

# are we ready for chapter 2?

yes

star

come on, someone give info pepemeltdown

ace died game hasn't ended star's crying zen's not prodded aeo's talking random stuff and im probably getting prodded again if i don't talk

6:24 a.m.

oh no

6:25 a.m.

should've sent that in several msges

star

have you played on it? ive never seen you in the server

yes

6:26 a.m.

pinged u in that server but u never responded

6:26 a.m.

okay 8 messages

6:26 a.m.

we can do this

6:27 a.m.

got a bunch of hw to do so im just gonna try to reach 20 msges first Sip

6:29 a.m.

guess ill just tinfoil

6:29 a.m.

so my d1 d2 suspects were off

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hel and pixel

6:30 a.m.

lets say my d3 sus - aeo is wrong

6:31 a.m.

star/zen/cam

6:32 a.m.

i don't rly see cam as maf

6:34 a.m.

star/zen don't seem possible

6:34 a.m.

lmfao what am i doing

6:35 a.m.

how many ppl are left again

6:35 a.m.

5?

6:35 a.m.

ok what if i list out every possible combo

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then cross out from there

6:36 a.m.

cabbate , zenew , aeoliae , staururio , dswdbgsn

6:38 a.m.

cam/zen, cam/aeo, cam/star, cam/afk zen/cam, zen/aeo, zen/star, zen/afk aeo/cam, aeo/zen, aeo/star, aeo/afk afk/cam, afk/zen, afk/aeo, afk/star

6:38 a.m.

i feel like im doing mendel's law thing

6:38 a.m.

oh wait where did star's go

6:41 a.m.

cam/zen, cam/aeo, cam/star, cam/afk, zen/aeo, zen/star, zen/afk, aeo/star, aeo/afk, star/afk

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cam/zen, cam/aeo, cam/star, cam/afk, zen/aeo, zen/star, zen/afk, aeo/star, aeo/afk, star/afk

y'all can use this

6:47 a.m.

THIS DOES NOT HELP ANYTHING

if i cross cam out then im left with zen/aeo, zen/star, aeo/star ~if i cross aeo then it leaves me with zen/star only but no ~zen/aeo is actually a bit weird and i don't rly trust to vote with zen but i also don't wanna cross out aeo cuz zen/star is a no -aeo/star maybe cuz of sure maf read to sure town read on star if i don't cross out cam idk

6:58 a.m.

i feel like things would be so much easier if we could cross out one person catsit

6:58 a.m.

then we'd have 2/3 chance

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ace died game hasn't ended star's crying zen's not prodded aeo's talking random stuff and im probably getting prodded again if i don't talk

yes i am crying pepemeltdown

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pinged u in that server but u never responded

OH DID YOU

11:38 a.m.

i probably didnt see, sorry catsit

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star/zen don't seem possible

right

11:38 a.m.

ive been thinking and thinking

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i feel like things would be so much easier if we could cross out one person catsit

oh

11:40 a.m.

i thought about it last night

11:40 a.m.

and mine were pike

11:40 a.m.

like

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zen/cam aeo/cam

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its one of the two

11:41 a.m.

because if you realized, cam hasnt talked at all since this day started

11:41 a.m.

she only provided a lot of details on d1

11:41 a.m.

then on d2 it was okay amount

11:42 a.m.

on d3 she has way less than both d1 and d2 combined

11:42 a.m.

and then on d4 she hasnt shown up yet

11:45 a.m.

at this point, we will just have to randomly vote based on majority pepeHmm

11:45 a.m.

no voting = lose

11:46 a.m.

voting has a 50% chance of lynching a mafia and 50% chance of lynching a town

11:46 a.m.

and if im being fr, the day ends at tmr at 1 pm for me, might not make it in time frogtea

haii y'all

2:52 p.m.

just got home from works

2:52 p.m.

and i see we're abts nowhere lmao

2:52 p.m.

and i'm still getting sussed even tho i could have insta won it for maf if i wanted yesterday Amogus

2:52 p.m.

okay

2:52 p.m.

but anyways

2:53 p.m.

idk i'm still set on aeo

2:53 p.m.

unless fucking

2:53 p.m.

afk and cam have masterminded this so hard and it's both of them

2:53 p.m.

but like

2:53 p.m.

surely fucking not

2:53 p.m.

and ig if it is then well done to them

2:53 p.m.

either way am probs voting aeo unless something big happens

Zen

either way am probs voting aeo unless something big happens

what about aeo/cam

3:02 p.m.

the more that i think about it

3:02 p.m.

aeo fought with each of us using facts except cam

3:03 p.m.

and afk doesnt show mafia vibes because they check in almost every day

still has aeo chad

3:03 p.m.

so voting aeo

plus i dont think a mafia will spend everytime writing paragraphs

Zen

still has aeo chad

idk we'll have more time to figure out 2nd maf esp on who they kill

3:04 p.m.

if we get 1

hold on

3:04 p.m.

dont vote just yet

cuz now whoever they kill would reveal a lot

3:04 p.m.

dwdw i won't

because we cant remove our votes

am waiting

me too

just saying

3:04 p.m.

waht am doing

3:04 p.m.

so is known

3:04 p.m.

and not like a last min

3:04 p.m.

wth why u voting them

i think im dying next lol pepe_popcorn

kinda deal

star

i think im dying next lol pepe_popcorn

i mean

3:04 p.m.

probs yeah

3:04 p.m.

or me

3:04 p.m.

if we kill aeo

well im talking too much nom

eh if anyone is talking too much it's afk lmao

that too

3:05 p.m.

well then

3:05 p.m.

aeo/cam would be more

3:05 p.m.

well hopefully cam can come on and talk game a bit more

because now that i think about it, i think aeo has sussed me, you, and afk

3:06 p.m.

but not really cam?

since they've been very quiet

i mean i know cam talked a lot on d1

3:06 p.m.

but now they are so quiet

star

but not really cam?

ig but tbf aeo seems to be way more

and they both have 2 prods

3:06 p.m.

retaliatory than the aggressor

3:06 p.m.

idk if that's mafia like or town like

3:07 p.m.

or null

3:07 p.m.

idk

well i could say why

but they're way more counter attacky it seems

3:07 p.m.

which is cool cuz they're not just goign brrr brr on everyone all the time (altho they kinda did anyways)

3:07 p.m.

but is also

3:07 p.m.

not cool

3:07 p.m.

cuz a town should

3:08 p.m.

tryna solve the game and accusing peeps

3:08 p.m.

eh

3:08 p.m.

idk

aeo

they are quick to reply to everything against them with reasoning that sometimes doesnt make any sense
asked for a track (1000%) sure mafia wouldve known about goon’s actions and not showing up in the track
posting whatever for the last days
keeps saying not to vote

3:09 p.m.

i mean voting would mean prods

3:09 p.m.

but there are mid game prods too

3:09 p.m.

plus its 20 messages per 24 hours

3:10 p.m.

it was only like a few hours in yet they are really worried about prods

3:10 p.m.

3:10 p.m.

also they keep saying not to vote (i mean if we vote wrong person = mafia wins)

3:10 p.m.

seems they dont wanna take a gamble like me frogtea

3:12 p.m.

seems like they are pushing for town not to vote at all

3:12 p.m.

which results in an automatic mafia win awkward

3:16 p.m.

aw man, everyone disappeared on me again pepemeltdown

star

aw man, everyone disappeared on me again pepemeltdown

star

seems they dont wanna take a gamble like me frogtea

lmao u really wanted to vote lots

3:24 p.m.

how come?

lots?

lots

3:24 p.m.

like

3:24 p.m.

a lot

oh because i dont really care who wins

lots of things

if mafia wins, good job aworryPartyTime

3:25 p.m.

you trolled us all

3:25 p.m.

if town wins

3:25 p.m.

good job for a tough end aworryPartyTime

fair enoughss

am just glad we're more calm now

3:25 p.m.

than

3:25 p.m.

the

i mean it doesnt benefit us much if we win or not

shouty shouts

its just an experience

ya!

3:25 p.m.

is just for funs

3:25 p.m.

o star

3:26 p.m.

do u like

no matter which side wins, at least we learned something from each orher

majora's mask

3:26 p.m.

?

other*

3:26 p.m.

majora’

3:26 p.m.

?

Zen

is just for funs

star

majora’

https://open.spotify.com/track/5ElpmGHu06IxqxHvsxALpN?si=779d70f1064549d1

oh

have reorch song from it

idk them

3:26 p.m.

is a zelda game

3:26 p.m.

my fav

oh

uwu

nope

3:26 p.m.

is really good i recommend playing it even if u don't enjoy typical zelda games

3:27 p.m.

or maybe watching a video essay on it

3:27 p.m.

3:28 p.m.

oh right

3:29 p.m.

what do you work as? froggiesip

oop

3:29 p.m.

i work in a

im kind of bored now that everyone is gone pepeHmm

big tool/hobby shop

ohh

3:29 p.m.

thats cool

i mean is just basic works

3:29 p.m.

but i enjoy it

3:29 p.m.

lovely people i work with

3:29 p.m.

and customers are mostly nice

unlike when u work in grocery stores

im kind of introverted pepemeltdown

cuz people act wanna go to the tool/hobby shop most of the time they go

3:30 p.m.

compared ot grocery where they need to go

3:30 p.m.

if u get it

star

im kind of introverted pepemeltdown

hugs hugs

3:30 p.m.

if u don't wanna be introverted

Zen

compared ot grocery where they need to go

ohh

3:30 p.m.

u can grow out of it

3:30 p.m.

i did

but it's easier said than done tbh

3:31 p.m.

u kinda just need to fake being an extrovert

3:31 p.m.

till u become one

3:32 p.m.

real reason is my parents want me to pick up the phones

3:32 p.m.

3:33 p.m.

so do we all agree on aeo?

3:33 p.m.

star

real reason is my parents want me to pick up the phones

lmao

3:34 p.m.

pats

Zen

pats

star

so do we all agree on aeo?

and lmao idk if literally anyone but me does

3:34 p.m.

everyone always seems so against it

3:34 p.m.

but that's what my heart be screaming

3:34 p.m.

so

3:34 p.m.

idk

3:34 p.m.

im not that sure either

3:35 p.m.

hard to tell since out of us 5, only 3 are town PEPEhmmsus

3:35 p.m.

would be easier for mafia to identify whose the other one frogtea

probss

originally i had an idea to figure out who the other towns are

3:36 p.m.

but i think it backfired

3:36 p.m.

o?

3:38 p.m.

what happened

because the two mafias might be suspicious of each other in here

3:38 p.m.

but in their private chat they might be plotting something big

3:38 p.m.

yeaahhh at this point idt mafia wouldn't have like attacked each other at least once

3:39 p.m.

cuz that'd stick out more

3:39 p.m.

probs

oh crabby

well who are we voting

11:53 p.m.

i love talking to myself pepemeltdown

just a warning beforehand

12:01 a.m.

if no one gives any info before the day ends

12:01 a.m.

im just going to random vote

12:01 a.m.

because no voting is an automatic lose

12:01 a.m.

and thats no fun

12:02 a.m.

and beware, we cant unvote pepeHmm

star

i love talking to myself pepemeltdown

lmao

oh hi

12:09 a.m.

at least someone’s here

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lets say my d3 sus - aeo is wrong

oh btw how is this wrong

12:10 a.m.

and who are you even doubting

star

oh btw how is this wrong

i think they're more saying

12:10 a.m.

like as a hypothetical

they sound like they are saying aeo isnt mafia

12:11 a.m.

because of the message after that

12:11 a.m.

she crossed out everyone (aeo and cam)

12:11 a.m.

leaving us two

12:11 a.m.

then said it isnt possibl

12:11 a.m.

e

12:11 a.m.

so who is she saying the mafia group is

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if i cross cam out then im left with zen/aeo, zen/star, aeo/star ~if i cross aeo then it leaves me with zen/star only but no ~zen/aeo is actually a bit weird and i don't rly trust to vote with zen but i also don't wanna cross out aeo cuz zen/star is a no -aeo/star maybe cuz of sure maf read to sure town read on star if i don't cross out cam idk

i think this is more their reads?

12:12 a.m.

idk afk is a rambler

12:12 a.m.

lol

pretty sure they're just tryna look at every mafia team

12:13 a.m.

and im pretty sure

12:14 a.m.

that they are sure

12:14 a.m.

aeo and cam are not magia

12:14 a.m.

mafia

12:14 a.m.

and they obviously know they, themselves, are not mafia

12:14 a.m.

which leaves us two

12:15 a.m.

12:15 a.m.

but also that confirms one thing

12:15 a.m.

they arent mafia because mafia will not put in so much effort to write all that

hi

3:59 a.m.

im sorry ive been on vacation

6 pings is scary

star

OH DID YOU

yeah in mafia-lobby

star

because if you realized, cam hasnt talked at all since this day started

tbf the only reason id say cam is maf is her inactivity after d1 meowdy

6:04 a.m.

^^that was also mentioned during d2

star

no voting = lose

true lol

star

at this point, we will just have to randomly vote based on majority pepeHmm

but i think we shouldn't randomly vote and discuss on who to vote on cuz we could end up in a tie again and this time we can't change votes anymore

Zen

afk and cam have masterminded this so hard and it's both of them

star

aeo fought with each of us using facts except cam

what facts tho

star

i think im dying next lol pepe_popcorn

orrr we get maf out tonight Sip

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orrr we get maf out tonight Sip

i think they meant if we got a maf out today

6:10 a.m.

cuz like

6:10 a.m.

if we don't then game ends

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also cute evil panda

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

me d1 d2

star

so do we all agree on aeo?

im fine with that HMMM

star

would be easier for mafia to identify whose the other one frogtea

mafia knows who everyone is

star

oh btw how is this wrong

oh no i just said that cuz hel and pixel (my d1 d2 sus) were both town and im just saying what if my d3 sus - aeo - was wrong

6:15 a.m.

maybe 3rd time's the charm? holdingbacktears

star

and who are you even doubting

wym

star

so who is she saying the mafia group is

idek ;-;

star

that they are sure

not rly its just a what-if-i-cross-cam-out situation

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

hi

hihi

Zen

i think they meant if we got a maf out today

oh right mb

6:20 a.m.

i thought it was a vote maf out and win or vote town out and lose

looking back at the time lol that ~9 hours of dead chat

6:28 a.m.

i was at school tho

where are u peopleeeee

hi sorry ive been

10:03 a.m.

om vacation

10:03 a.m.

Lol

okayy

10:04 a.m.

also hai cam

10:05 a.m.

hope ur vacay is going wells

10:05 a.m.

uhm

10:05 a.m.

but yeah we needs

10:05 a.m.

to at least vote today

10:05 a.m.

before time ends

10:05 a.m.

@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] @NOT Aeroyi @star y'all existing too?

well alr then

11:29 a.m.

we love activity

omg i almost turned off my pc

11:30 a.m.

um

don't???

11:31 a.m.

u haven't even voted

11:31 a.m.

11:31 a.m.

at least vote before u get off

ill just vote aeo

or is like

11:31 a.m.

so lost

11:31 a.m.

welp

11:31 a.m.

okay

11:31 a.m.

are u just off after this or?

at least that was what today's chat has kinda concluded on idk

11:32 a.m.

gtg

11:32 a.m.

okayyy

11:32 a.m.

sleep well

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

ill just vote aeo

Thanks for outing yourself

11:39 a.m.

no way bestie stays quiet in terms of game for like 5 days straight

11:40 a.m.

and just counter votes

11:41 a.m.

also damn you really struggle with the commands

@NOT Aeroyi you need to fix your vote -- see the channel

11:43 a.m.

as of now, it doesn't count

laga if they don't come back can we just count it as a vote pls?

11:44 a.m.

so we at least have some chance if we do end up voting afk

11:44 a.m.

instead of at best a tie vote

idk, i pinged him before when his vote didn't register and he never fixed it zzz

11:46 a.m.

i mean personally am still not very on board with aeo being any sorta good but if they are then that sucks so much

11:47 a.m.

ig everyone is busy tho

11:47 a.m.

besides star

11:47 a.m.

but they're not here atm

11:47 a.m.

big sade

hopefully aeo comes back and i don't need to make this decision

yeaaa

11:47 a.m.

hopefully

i don't know why aeo is having trouble with the bot, but since it's lylo and so close to EOD, i will count his vote manually

11:55 a.m.

just everyone else please use the bot

If there's a tie can we resolve it via duel

yes, or if you don't

12:09 p.m.

then laga flips a coin

12:09 p.m.

zzzz

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

then laga flips a coin

Lame ending

12:18 p.m.

https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/195963-quick-fix-game-71-5d-shard-game-with-multiverse-time-travel/?do=findComment&comment=1738046

Quick Fix Game 71: 5D Shard Game With Multiverse Time Travel*

12:18 p.m.

Read this for the context

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

tbf the only reason id say cam is maf is her inactivity after d1 meowdy

ohh

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

orrr we get maf out tonight Sip

we can only get one out

Zen

@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] @NOT Aeroyi @star y'all existing too?

HERE

12:45 p.m.

oh

12:45 p.m.

wait who am i voting

12:46 p.m.

lord

12:50 p.m.

but all im seeing here is, aeo only votes for the person who attacks them

12:50 p.m.

at least they actually voted ig

12:59 p.m.

but yeah aeo kinda forced the vote

12:59 p.m.

to be them or afk

1:00 p.m.

oh well

Zen

oh well

who are you voting?

1:04 p.m.

ill vote with you

1:04 p.m.

because idk either

1:04 p.m.

1:08 p.m.

but there is also only 52 minutes left

1:08 p.m.

votes still tied

oh boi yea

1:26 p.m.

Am like half busy till elim

1:27 p.m.

I'll probs vote aeo on this seeing as literally no new info has come up besides aeo acting even more funky

1:27 p.m.

I'm gonna try to wait in case cam is here last min tho

1:27 p.m.

But like

1:27 p.m.

99% voting aeo

OK

1:31 p.m.

ill too

1:31 p.m.

sorry aeo

Zen

I'm gonna try to wait in case cam is here last min tho

i am 100% sure she will not be online within the next hour

1:33 p.m.

lagaaa

1:33 p.m.

will the night be skipped when all actions are in

star

i am 100% sure she will not be online within the next hour

Oof

yeah

1:36 p.m.

Welp not much to do then ig

welp

1:36 p.m.

now

1:36 p.m.

i wonder if its a win for mafia or town

gg either way

yup

1:37 p.m.

gg

EOD

Postgame Talk

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-07-03 1:50 p.m.

yeaahhhh

1:50 p.m.

sry

i feel bad for that ngl

1:50 p.m.

i think u guys should have won

so i was right since the start

1:50 p.m.

@star was right

star

so i was right since the start

i mean i never saw u sus us before like d3 but if u were thinking so then gj ye

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1256319613269180439

1:50 p.m.

Start of d2 star stated the mafia team

oh d2 yeah*

pat pat

Town supported her at first

1:51 p.m.

but toward the end

they thought i was mafia

1:51 p.m.

Town never wins a game on discord mafia istg

1:51 p.m.

I will do this once I get to pc

town should have won sobs

oh so i was right about tracker too

cam got too busy

1:52 p.m.

and aeo

1:52 p.m.

uhh

1:52 p.m.

kinda poofed

1:52 p.m.

after that one day

1:52 p.m.

so idk

Star deserved way better

you two and hel knew who tracker was since d1

i still don't get why aeo made themselves so sus tho

i feel like @star solved it, but then town left her mostly alone with only the mafia to talk to

Mhm

star

you two and hel knew who tracker was since d1

oh yeah u did reply to that but imma be real i never picked up on it even tho i replied

1:53 p.m.

it was afk who did

1:53 p.m.

lmao

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

i feel like @star solved it, but then town left her mostly alone with only the mafia to talk to

they literally lynched the active ones pepemeltdown

Danger!? Luka!

I will do this once I get to pc

Hi Luka! (edited)

so was a right read but also wrong kek

Zen

it was afk who did

thats what i was thinking

This ended huh

1:53 p.m.

1:53 p.m.

zenith lost

1:53 p.m.

sad

the better zen won

1:54 p.m.

jkjk

no cuz i did a background check on zen too

1:54 p.m.

star

no cuz i did a background check on zen too

oop what does this even mean

Zen

oop what does this even mean

sp51 i think

like read thru my msgs or

1:54 p.m.

ohhh on the

1:54 p.m.

special game i told u abt

1:54 p.m.

?

what abt it tho

1:55 p.m.

winning as a neutral is not easy

oh

plus i played with ace before

yeah but i was lucky

1:55 p.m.

lmao

i know how he plays

1:55 p.m.

i'm not that good ass u probs saw this game kek

1:56 p.m.

was just kinda lucky and town and evils self destructed

Zen

town should have won sobs

Zen if mafia chat feeling bad for town This is real

and i just did clean up

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

Zen if mafia chat feeling bad for town This is real

WELL IT'S TRUE THO

they had the solution but got ruined to afk and aeo not wanting to engage the game

Zen

i'm not that good ass u probs saw this game kek

i think you got better and better as the game went on

1:57 p.m.

i was alone in this battle

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

i think you got better and better as the game went on

i mean i got less and less busy ig

star

i was alone in this battle

Mhm

but i think mostly it was just

1:57 p.m.

aeo making

1:57 p.m.

silly choices

to let me do stuff

star

Click to see attachment 🖼️

1:57 p.m.

am sorry star

1:58 p.m.

ur so scrunkly

1:58 p.m.

am sad i was on the enemy team

1:58 p.m.

u deserve so many pats

i actually trusted zen and afk for a split second cooldudesdontcry

come be mafia with us instead of dying

1:58 p.m.

uwu

1:59 p.m.

okay welp

1:59 p.m.

i'll try not to leave the server

but probs won't do another game

2:00 p.m.

until like

2:00 p.m.

i get the random urge to do another maf game in a year or two

if i do play another game

2:00 p.m.

please put me with active people

2:00 p.m.

lmao

the inactiveness was not good

2:01 p.m.

it wasn't

2:01 p.m.

big sade

star

sp51 i think

oh nice, good job (edited)

like if me and afk just decided to be silent too for some reason

2:01 p.m.

there would literally

2:01 p.m.

only be

2:02 p.m.

star schizo posting to themselves

2:02 p.m.

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

oh nice, good job (edited)

Smh

2:03 p.m.

that happened

star

sp51 i think

oh it was sp15

2:04 p.m.

not 51

star

sp51 i think

sp51 is still goin on and zen isnt even there unless you're talking about zenith

tried to find it

Zen

oh it was sp15

Oh

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

Hi Luka! (edited)

Hi Laga!!!

Free's Main

sp51 is still goin on and zen isnt even there unless you're talking about zenith

yeahh lmao i was confused when i looked up my name and saw it being posted abt recently

2:04 p.m.

i was like

2:05 p.m.

why are people talking abt this game again

2:05 p.m.

but was the new game

Danger!? Luka!

Hi Laga!!!

Maybe dm players are just good at scum?

not

2:05 p.m.

the one i was in

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

Maybe dm players are just good at scum?

I'd argue it's the inverse but possibly

also apparently there's also been a role with the same name

2:05 p.m.

funky

Danger!? Luka!

I'd argue it's the inverse but possibly

we are bad at town then okay okay

2:06 p.m.

though this game was 100% newcomers

yeahh s

2:06 p.m.

altho

2:06 p.m.

hel, afk, aeo and cam were all def

2:07 p.m.

a bit

2:07 p.m.

higher than newcomer

2:07 p.m.

sob

2:07 p.m.

also star ngl

well on this server tho

fair nuff

yeah, i think everyone in the game has played other places

2:08 p.m.

but a lot of people are used to role madness type games i think

Zen

i'll try not to leave the server

you don't like you 100% win rate Hehe

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

you don't like you 100% win rate Hehe

Nah I Don't have 100%

2:13 p.m.

It's at 50% iirc?

2:13 p.m.

Idk if the other games I played weren't archived tho

2:13 p.m.

I know for sure I played one

2:13 p.m.

Where I was SK

2:14 p.m.

And eqsy sussed me cuz I was asking for help to understand stuff

2:14 p.m.

Cuz I really needed the help sjdhsg

2:14 p.m.

And then got voted d1 cuz of it

2:14 p.m.

Lmao

This was an experience

Interesting

LOL gg

ngl better than previous mafia games I've played on discord

i was too afk but i had the right rwad rip

2:15 p.m.

So both of my initial TLs were incorrect

Zenith

So both of my initial TLs were incorrect

U town leaned me?? Sob

2:15 p.m.

Am sorry for getting u killed ngl

Nah it's alright

I really wanted to talk with u more

2:15 p.m.

I just wanted to have a vote down d1

2:15 p.m.

And then suddenly two people followed it

Well we can do that in the next game

And I was cri

2:16 p.m.

unless you decide to lynch me again

Lmao I'll try not to

ggs tho sorry for being useless vacation and life caught up </3

I kind of had AFK as null later

im mad bc i had the read of them being paired but got too busy nooo

2:17 p.m.

Yeahhh

2:17 p.m.

Sob

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

ggs tho sorry for being useless vacation and life caught up </3

Nah it's all good. Vacations are meant to be enjoyed.

Ur like really good tho cam

LMFAO IM DRF NOT BUT TY

Shame with the afk but hope ur vacay is wonderful!!

tyty ggs again !

GG

noooooooo

2:20 p.m.

sobs

2:21 p.m.

this is on me for being afk rip

2:21 p.m.

Nah you did good.

2:21 p.m.

Evidently better than the rest of us.

also can i say tho

2:22 p.m.

why did no one vote the day before

2:22 p.m.

i could have just ended the game right there by last min voting

2:22 p.m.

i just didn't cuz it'd be cheap

2:22 p.m.

but like

2:23 p.m.

damn

2:23 p.m.

It's true, mafia could have won d3 by voting in the last few seconds (edited)

Zen

oh it was sp15

oh

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

yeah, i think everyone in the game has played other places

ive only played the ones with the more info roles froggiesip

omg messenger moment???

2:32 p.m.

Messenger is my signature 8er setup Being the only decent setup I designed myself!

star

ive only played the ones with the more info roles froggiesip

yeah, but you seem to be p good at reading people it takes practice but you did good for you first time without all those roles

Zen

why did no one vote the day before

i was going to

I wish I could read new players like I could before

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

yeah, but you seem to be p good at reading people it takes practice but you did good for you first time without all those roles

im not amazing at reading people, considering my win rate in the other server froggiesip

but tysm!

2:35 p.m.

wait now im confused

2:35 p.m.

who was rolecop?

2:35 p.m.

2:36 p.m.

being honest, i thought afk was mafia because of the time the actions were submitted too

star

who was rolecop?

zen was mafia role cop

2:54 p.m.

oh i'll post a spreadsheet of everything

I screenshot the game spreadsheet with everyone's role and actions and put it in info

oh

3:01 p.m.

tysm

two honorable mentions Helvaria -- for saving ace n1

3:01 p.m.

Ace- was tracking AFK the night died

3:02 p.m.

shouldve tracked afk n2

true!

3:03 p.m.

well whatever nom

also, helvaria being outed was a turning point for town

3:05 p.m.

i realize ace thought that hel might be the mafia rolecop

3:05 p.m.

was why

3:05 p.m.

but to mafia

3:05 p.m.

they ofc knew hel was the doc

Seems like it

3:08 p.m.

i kind of wanted an action

Join a sp game next

if we were fr though, i would’ve gotten lynched way earlier

3:08 p.m.

Zenith

Join a sp game next

i joined one as my first game

3:09 p.m.

it didnt go well

It is basically too many roles in a game.

3:09 p.m.

Chaos But people enjoy that too

the last one i joined

3:10 p.m.

i didnt know mafia team only had 4

3:11 p.m.

the neutral on our team got me outted

How many people were there?

5

3:11 p.m.

wait in the game?

Yeah

3:12 p.m.

20 players setup

3:12 p.m.

I think it's the same for all sp games

oh

3:13 p.m.

yeah i think so

star

i didnt know mafia team only had 4

One of them must have been the recruit

maybe

The addition of jackal makes you question people on your own side.

Who were mafia mentors

3:14 p.m.

Kiri and who else

they outted me because i had an ability that survives a lynch, but left the wrong mafia alive catto_ohmy

Wait

star

they outted me because i had an ability that survives a lynch, but left the wrong mafia alive catto_ohmy

You were Jackal

Free's Main

wasnt me fault froggiesip

Zenith

You were Jackal

sp games have different setups e

Oh

i didnt know froggiesip

star

wasnt me fault froggiesip

I srsly dk why did I even trust cheetah's claim even tho it made zero sense(well it did make sense for me since they explained bout their accompanying ability but it was after I explicitly asked) (edited)

3:15 p.m.

Free's Main

I srsly dk why did I even trust cheetah's claim even tho it made zero sense(well it did make sense for me since they explained bout their accompanying ability but it was after I explicitly asked) (edited)

3:16 p.m.

i was ordered to sound sus

and guess what it was completely made up sed

Free's Main

and guess what it was completely made up sed

3:20 p.m.

i straight up went, IM MAFIA

3:20 p.m.

and everyone believed me

Ngekop

Who were mafia mentors

Me

3:25 p.m.

Afk did really well on their own though

3:25 p.m.

Personal mvp

What about zenew

Idk who her mentor was

Days w/o misreading Kaz: 0

Afk did really well on their own though

Oh I mean like without my help

Zen also played really well

ig everyone had a mentor?

star

i joined one as my first game

sometimes there are games in the main queue that have more pr's (special roles) the newcomer games usually only have 2 -3 out ot 9 players

star

ig everyone had a mentor?

Everyone was given an option I think

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

sometimes there are games in the main queue that have more pr's (special roles) the newcomer games usually only have 2 -3 out ot 9 players

ohh

Zenith

Everyone was given an option I think

i know

3:30 p.m.

i didnt ask for one though nom

Same

but still

3:30 p.m.

tysm laga for the help

3:30 p.m.

star

ig everyone had a mentor?

I wish i couldve mentor you

Thanks Laga for hosting this

Ngl

Ngekop

I wish i couldve mentor you

oh

Zenith

Thanks Laga for hosting this

this too

star

ohh

in the main queue (ma) the games are ususally pretty balanced sp queue games can be really chaotic and crazy (not all of them but like they are less standard than main games) then ne is usually 9 player games with like i said just a few prs (plus you can have a mentor and more help from the host)

ohh

Zenith

Thanks Laga for hosting this

You're welcome! I enjoy hosting (edited)

That's great. It seems like a lot of work.

it kinda is a lot of word

4:41 p.m.

k

4:41 p.m.

so i try to space out how often i do it

oh

4:49 p.m.

truth was i knew town wasnt going to win

4:49 p.m.

You lost when both prs were outed D2 imo

that

5:57 p.m.

but also because of the info

town could have still won

6:17 p.m.

like after that

6:17 p.m.

star said the team

6:17 p.m.

cam and aeo seemed to agree

6:17 p.m.

i think ace too

6:17 p.m.

but town didn't work together after that

6:17 p.m.

you don't need prs to win

6:17 p.m.

at that point they were confirmed town that mafia would night kill (edited)

6:17 p.m.

but you knew not to lynch them

6:18 p.m.

so it made towns job easier

6:18 p.m.

ace for sure sussed the actual team

6:18 p.m.

they had their track on zen and then switched to afk (edited)

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

at that point they were confirmed town that mafia would night kill (edited)

but mafia was gonna night kill someone anyway

6:20 p.m.

so it was still winnable by town

6:21 p.m.

mid d2 i even thought town would fs win

6:21 p.m.

but town fell off and mafia kept doing their stuff

look at how they massacred my boy

7:15 p.m.

i should have helped this game dammit

star asking for the wording of host communication was the reason why I townread her

NOT Aeroyi

star asking for the wording of host communication was the reason why I townread her

oh

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

but town didn't work together after that

they all went their own way

9:58 p.m.

9:59 p.m.

i actually believed them when they said the goon wouldn’t show up in kills

9:59 p.m.

but i was lied to catto_ohmy

9:59 p.m.

both mafias would’ve shown up in track

10:00 p.m.

and that goon does the killing while rolecop does the tracking

10:04 p.m.

also, because only the mafias were more active, i got confused

10:04 p.m.

also with aeo typing random stuff, it made it even more confusing pepe_cry

10:06 p.m.

i mean at least i didnt get lynched, even though i was sussed for 2 days straight nom

star

i mean at least i didnt get lynched, even though i was sussed for 2 days straight nom

Yes! That’s an important skill too. To learn how to make it obvious you are town when you are

10:15 p.m.

And the other stuff, well maf can work all kinds of ways

10:15 p.m.

and it makes the game fun to slowly figure out possibilities and can alway learn

10:15 p.m.

new things (edited)

ohh

10:32 p.m.

star

also with aeo typing random stuff, it made it even more confusing pepe_cry

# 1 9 8 4

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

i feel like @star solved it, but then town left her mostly alone with only the mafia to talk to

fr that's so sad

Zen

oh yeah u did reply to that but imma be real i never picked up on it even tho i replied

bro it was so obvious

star

they literally lynched the active ones pepemeltdown

zenith was active rip but pixel wasn't active

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

Zen if mafia chat feeling bad for town This is real

they literally got us but we just got lucky cam and aeo went afk sjdsfjkh

star

i actually trusted zen and afk for a split second cooldudesdontcry

i mean we didn't leave u all alone tho ;-;

Zen

but probs won't do another game

same ngl

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

Maybe dm players are just good at scum?

whats dm players

Zen

hel, afk, aeo and cam were all def

im new tho

camryn (✿◠‿◠)

i was too afk but i had the right rwad rip

yeahhh

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

would still be better if ace didn't out themselves d1 aaaaaaa

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

whats dm players

dm = discord mafia, as in us!

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

rolecop was no use rip

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

me too, games are more fun with action

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

tyyy

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

mini maid

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

would still be better if ace didn't out themselves d1 aaaaaaa

although, it mean helvaria knew who to protect and so you had no night 1 kill and if hel's role had stayed secret then could have kept protecting ace night after night...

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

dm = discord mafia, as in us!

ohhh

Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃

although, it mean helvaria knew who to protect and so you had no night 1 kill and if hel's role had stayed secret then could have kept protecting ace night after night...

i meant ace not outting tracker (edited)

7:28 a.m.

ace could've tracked one of us too

7:28 a.m.

and it would be easy asf to win for town

star

also, because only the mafias were more active, i got confused

yeah it was totally weird that the only ones talking in chat were 2 mafs and you

star

both mafias would’ve shown up in track

both mafias can kill and only the mafia that performs the action will get tracked

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

actually felt like u were maf team's member lmao

7:36 a.m.

it was nice having another person to talk to

7:36 a.m.

when i was bored asf

Afk responding to msgs like we're still in the game

9:44 a.m.

Or do u just normally do that lmao

Zen

Or do u just normally do that lmao

yeah kind of

[𝙰𝙵𝙺]

yeah kind of

Cute

i didn't mean to send so many msges

9:46 a.m.

but like-

Hello mafia team, congrats on the win.

when i scrolled back down i realised there's already a lot

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but like-

Bestie doesn't wanna get prodded

Helvaria

Hello mafia team, congrats on the win.

hi hel

If I was alive, I probably would've mislynched too.

Helvaria

Hello mafia team, congrats on the win.

Hoi

Helvaria

If I was alive, I probably would've mislynched too.

Pat pat

It felt like town kind of gave up at d3+.

Yeahhh

9:47 a.m.

Was a shane

Helvaria

If I was alive, I probably would've mislynched too.

this is why i said we should've kept doc alive FacepalmLmao

But oh well

Helvaria

It felt like town kind of gave up at d3+.

yeah

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this is why i said we should've kept doc alive FacepalmLmao

Yeah but then ace tracks go btrr

9:48 a.m.

So like

Zen

Yeah but then ace tracks go btrr

rip

The mafia team were the most active members of town

i wanted to go afk toooo

9:49 a.m.

anyways i learnt smth from this game

9:49 a.m.

reads are uselessss

Lmao

9:56 a.m.

Real

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both mafias can kill and only the mafia that performs the action will get tracked

oh

star

oh

Yeah that's why aeo's hypothetical track clear was very bs too

2:08 p.m.

Cuz even if they were goon they could just not have done the kill

ohh