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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-22 12:00 a.m.
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-06-22 12:00 a.m.
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-22 2:00 p.m.
it starts!
2:00 p.m.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 2:08 p.m.
hihi! at work for another hr but will be more checked in a bit o7
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Hello chat
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Haii will be busy most of tn
2:14 p.m.
Hanging with friends
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got it!
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Hi guys
2:19 p.m.
Hi
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To get this game going, let's start off by claiming roles to spot inconsistencies. I am town citizen.
3:17 p.m.
It is an easily claimable role and has no functions other than voting. There are five citizens in this game (2 additional town)
3:18 p.m.
I feel the game will solve itself faster if we know who the 5 citizens are
3:20 p.m.
If we get more than 5 citizen claims, there will be a mafia among us. If not, both mafia s would be in the remaining 4
3:26 p.m.
I am looking forward to the claims. Ping me when claiming so that I can compile that info.
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Zenith
I am looking forward to the claims. Ping me when claiming so that I can compile that info.
I am also a town citizen
3:37 p.m.
goodjob
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Thanks for claiming Let's wait for the other 3 too
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kk ^_^
3:39 p.m.
Also yw :>
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Zenith
To get this game going, let's start off by claiming roles to spot inconsistencies. I am town citizen.
twinsies!!
3:41 p.m.
... is that how you even spell it
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Yea lol
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Alright noted Thanks for claiming Ace
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also Kangel!!! Bless! 🙏
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im also a town citizen
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Noted. Thanks star.
3:53 p.m.
So we got 4 claims till now
3:53 p.m.
We may end up with more than 5 claims but then we will know where to look into
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3 cases 1. Both mafias as citizens 2. Both mafias as "special" town (non-citizen) 3. One on both sides.
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Or someone has a pr and is lying about being citizen for the sake of survival and being usful
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I encourage not to
3:55 p.m.
It's easy to narrow down the search
3:56 p.m.
Just don't reveal your exact role for the time being
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ace! ★
Or someone has a pr and is lying about being citizen for the sake of survival and being usful
I am so not talking about my self rn!!
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Yeah it is a real possibility
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Zenith
Just don't reveal your exact role for the time being
I'm sure websill be able to track down mafia eithereay.
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Let's see I am waiting for more activity
3:57 p.m.
We have ample time
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we cant really check if we are regular citizens?
3:57 p.m.
It is revealed in private channel
3:57 p.m.
noo
3:57 p.m.
like check others
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If someones tracker they can track down of the of the misc ones or one of the odd ones out
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sorry i worded that wrong
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im only worth a vote froggiesip
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Skill issue
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im only worth a vote froggiesip
Same here but let's make the most out of it
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Imagine not being dv/J. ((Im worth one too.))
3:59 p.m.
Let's see what happens from here
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I hope both mafias claim citizens. It would be easier to weed them out that way
4:15 p.m.
Prs need not claim.
4:16 p.m.
I want one citizen to not claim too
4:17 p.m.
So we should have 4 votes (which we have) Anyone who wants to counter claim can do so. Doing that won't automatically put you under town's scrutiny.
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As for how a person will know they are the only citizens to not claim
4:26 p.m.
I guess there's no way around that A flaw in logic
4:26 p.m.
All citizens should claim
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Zenith
I encourage not to
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 5:11 p.m.
reading up, never smart to claim pr if u have that role
5:12 p.m.
scum increases their odds of winning exponentially if they murder prs
5:12 p.m.
giving them that info when scum can j easily fake claim town here isnt smart
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
reading up, never smart to claim pr if u have that role
Certainly not. I want covert claims.
5:14 p.m.
None yet but let's see
5:15 p.m.
The ones which can't be searched up
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 5:16 p.m.
im town citizen btw but legit everyone is gonna be claiming that so it doesnt rly glean us any info
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who hasnt claimed?
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4 others
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
im town citizen btw but legit everyone is gonna be claiming that so it doesnt rly glean us any info
what im saying
5:16 p.m.
how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen
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i think its amatter of fcfs
5:16 p.m.
/j.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 5:17 p.m.
we just talk here and try to get reads on ppl thru like talking a lot
5:17 p.m.
and alternatively if someone is avoiding talking we should probs put sme pressure on them
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Well I guess let's think on this strategy when we have better reads
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 5:18 p.m.
yea i j think rn we need to follow along w chat and keep live discussion going
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like how do We know ur not mafia trying to scout out who to kill.
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Let's consider that as an ice breaker for the time being
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ace! ★
like how do We know ur not mafia trying to scout out who to kill.
Certainly possible
5:19 p.m.
Especially since I claimed citizen not a pr
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 5:19 p.m.
ya but us as town NOT TALKING is even worse for us winning like we cant form reads if convos dont happen LOL
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Yep. I want people to talk too.
5:20 p.m.
A few already gave reasons for not being active here.
5:20 p.m.
Doesn't really help their case
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 5:20 p.m.
so far reading over this chat most things said seem good faith so far but there is rly nothing to go off of currently </3
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Yep too early to say anything
5:21 p.m.
Atleast the chat is flowing now
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 5:22 p.m.
what-
5:22 p.m.
oh wait chat glitched
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Zenith
So we should have 4 votes (which we have) Anyone who wants to counter claim can do so. Doing that won't automatically put you under town's scrutiny.
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 5:22 p.m.
what do u mean by this tho
5:22 p.m.
LOL
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That was just poor logic there
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Zenith
As for how a person will know they are the only citizens to not claim
I didn't account for this
5:23 p.m.
Also typo
5:23 p.m.
Not votes claims
5:23 p.m.
Not exactly a typo...
5:23 p.m.
I just used the wrong word lol
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Oh no
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Zenith
To get this game going, let's start off by claiming roles to spot inconsistencies. I am town citizen.
I don't think a bucket claim is a best idea
5:56 p.m.
Some might even call it wolfy
5:59 p.m.
Here's why a massclaim doesn't work: The wolves/Mafia just claim VT/civilian and escape suspicion
6:00 p.m.
Like
6:00 p.m.
Mafia can & will claim VT
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 6:43 p.m.
yuh legit everyone j claims vt here LOL like its a fruitless endeavor
7:21 p.m.
am home now
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NOT Aeroyi
Here's why a massclaim doesn't work: The wolves/Mafia just claim VT/civilian and escape suspicion
Yeah singling out the PRs seems like a bad strategy.
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well I mean if we want to do the wolves work for them we can
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Maybe we can try this with one mafia down
7:26 p.m.
and better reads
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i think we also have to vote someone off tonight
7:31 p.m.
today
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yeah
7:31 p.m.
but like
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idk sometimes poke voting is a thing that people do
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what's poke votin
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like
7:32 p.m.
voting random people
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oh and just hope we hit maf?
7:33 p.m.
like
7:33 p.m.
vote someone who hasn't showed up
7:33 p.m.
not flashwagoning someone but just voting them
7:33 p.m.
just to like
7:33 p.m.
get them
7:33 p.m.
to
7:33 p.m.
respond/claim?
7:33 p.m.
or
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No that's wolfy
7:34 p.m.
like
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um like that
8:06 p.m.
but hm
8:06 p.m.
that doesn't even ping somehow
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yeah
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wouldn't it be better to just
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you just have a bunch of people voting
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ping the person?
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it helps articulate discussion
8:07 p.m.
ic
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anywasy I hope that more people show
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-22 10:28 p.m.
hihi
10:30 p.m.
i mean ill just throw out a read, p sure zenith is town. i dont necessarily agree w some of their ideas/gameplan but their ideas seem to stem from lack of experience and the way they r pushing them j reads as pure town
10:31 p.m.
probs my only solid read i have so far based on minimal convo here
10:32 p.m.
the rest of yall i have read as null no offense i have nothing to go off of to read yall as town or scum currently💀
10:32 p.m.
im also p sure phases r 48 hrs but
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correct me if im wrong
10:33 p.m.
down to live discuss whatever if ppl r around rn tho ^_^
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Im js lurking and waiting for smth I can respond to
10:51 p.m.
Srry if I’m not active I’m busy w. Owning a rp server-
10:58 p.m.
NEXUZ
10:58 p.m.
IS IT DNAGANRONPS
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Pixelad3
Srry if I’m not active I’m busy w. Owning a rp server-
I have to set things up to run a game soon
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ace! ★
IS IT DNAGANRONPS
Yes :3
11:49 p.m.
The cast reveals gonna b soon
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I love drrps
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real ‼️‼️
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huh
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 12:44 a.m.
heyy what's up
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We need more poke voting tbh
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Poke voting?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 12:46 a.m.
the days start at 2am for me so i won't be talking for the first 8-18 hours(ish) after a day starts im not sure
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ace! ★
Poke voting?
Literally randomly voting anyone you feel like for whatever reason you feel like
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Wouldn't that be insanely stupid
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 12:47 a.m.
basically i'd talk more during 8/9pm for me
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ace! ★
Wouldn't that be insanely stupid
No...? It's not like anyone's in any danger, and a bit of action gets the game going
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 12:47 a.m.
anyways i just read chat
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Yeah fair but
12:48 a.m.
If someones inscribe and thinks “oh were voting them?” and all of the sudden everyone jumps on them
12:48 a.m.
I will laugh
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Yeah
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 12:48 a.m.
main things that happened are claiming vil and poke voting? anything else i missed or no
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But then you can tell that later if a wolf was one of those voters that the target is cleared, or determine how many wolves jumped on that wagon
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
main things that happened are claiming vil and poke voting? anything else i missed or no
Yeah
12:50 a.m.
Idk poke voting is like a big thing on most of the sites I play on
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 12:50 a.m.
umm is it to see how they would react to it?
12:50 a.m.
or see who would jump in
12:51 a.m.
no?
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It's just to get early stuff
12:55 a.m.
Like reactions
12:55 a.m.
Or just to get someone playing
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:03 a.m.
okay so i reread chat and
1:04 a.m.
yeah im confused meowdy
1:05 a.m.
so far i think we already have a lot of vil claims (probably 5 or 6)
1:06 a.m.
there's.. a lot of things to say on the plan?
1:06 a.m.
like there's too many possibilities and im bad at reading others
1:07 a.m.
zenith said we could at least deduce who's maf from the list
1:08 a.m.
but honestly its kind of just first come first serve to me since i think anyone who said it earlier is most likely town :/
1:08 a.m.
but timezoneeeeeee
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I'd argue anyone who said it first was probably maf
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:08 a.m.
ok but the poke voting --> wagon --> finding maf should be a good strat
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ace! ★
I'd argue anyone who said it first was probably maf
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:09 a.m.
weren't you one of the first few though
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Yeah.
1:12 a.m.
But still
1:12 a.m.
i thinkthe chances is higher to me its zenith
1:12 a.m.
snd the other person
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:19 a.m.
yeah id just subconsciously think that zenith is town catsit
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ace! ★
i thinkthe chances is higher to me its zenith
Yeah I would rather have you read me than instantly clearing me as town.
1:23 a.m.
Even if the strategy was bad, I genuinely think the chances of having a mafia in the 5 claims pretty low.
1:24 a.m.
The mafia would have to decide what they come out as there
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Zenith
I hope both mafias claim citizens. It would be easier to weed them out that way
Also this one was a complete bluff. It was the only situation that was hard to handle there.
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Zenith
Even if the strategy was bad, I genuinely think the chances of having a mafia in the 5 claims pretty low.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:25 a.m.
its still a first come first serve
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Yeah I was just trying to get it going
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Zenith
The mafia would have to decide what they come out as there
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:27 a.m.
honestly a no brainer though that everyone would claim
1:28 a.m.
im heading out soon so i'll check chat to see what happens after i get home catsit
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
honestly a no brainer though that everyone would claim
yeah. like even prs
1:29 a.m.
bc
1:29 a.m.
prs are getting insta killed
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Yeah right
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:29 a.m.
hmm
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ace! ★
prs are getting insta killed
The other game seems lost btw
1:30 a.m.
Atleast I can focus on this one now
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:30 a.m.
does anyone know how the other 3 roles are set
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
does anyone know how the other 3 roles are set
They pick an alphabet and a number at random
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
does anyone know how the other 3 roles are set
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:31 a.m.
im a bit slow on this cuz its not a 3x3 chart catsit
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then the roles are assigned based on that
1:31 a.m.
Eg. B and 2
1:32 a.m.
Then the roles would be Rolecop, Jailkeeper and Neighbour
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:33 a.m.
ohhh okay
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Zenith
Then the roles would be Rolecop, Jailkeeper and Neighbour
whres the chart? info?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:34 a.m.
i rly hope we have a cop or tracker Sip
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:34 a.m.
then it would be easy to find them (edited)
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ace! ★
I'd argue anyone who said it first was probably maf
Yeah but not that extreme
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
honestly a no brainer though that everyone would claim
Huh why?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
i rly hope we have a cop or tracker Sip
These both roles can't be together btw
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So they aren't sussed
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Zenith
These both roles can't be together btw
Key word. or
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Zenith
The other game seems lost btw
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-23 1:35 a.m.
Please don't talk about ongoing games outside of the game chat for that specific game. Thanks!
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
does anyone know how the other 3 roles are set
How they work or what they do
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
Please don't talk about ongoing games outside of the game chat for that specific game. Thanks!
Alright
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NOT Aeroyi
How they work or what they do
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:36 a.m.
wdym
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NOT Aeroyi
How they work or what they do
Tracker can track someone and find out if they visited a person ik that. Doctor can heal idk the others tho
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
wait why are we labeling the targets for them
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:36 a.m.
NewD3 is a Newcomer Setup taken from the forum site MafiaScum. It is their current Newcomer Setup and deemed the most balanced out of all of the ones that have been in use on their site to date...
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No deleting mssgs
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Any logical PR is A) not claiming PR and B) not outing immediately especially it they're confirmable
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Unless thatw as staff
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NOT Aeroyi
wait why are we labeling the targets for them
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:37 a.m.
you asked (?) and i was just repeating what ppl previously said
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ace! ★
No deleting mssgs
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:37 a.m.
oh
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I think I know how most of the roles work
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
you asked (?) and i was just repeating what ppl previously said
ah
1:37 a.m.
Imo
1:38 a.m.
There is this thing called role fishing
1:38 a.m.
It's when you try to catch a PR
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ace! ★
No deleting mssgs
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:38 a.m.
I'll just put it back here
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It's a big wolf thing
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NOT Aeroyi
It's a big wolf thing
(role fishing, not deleting messages)
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NOT Aeroyi
Huh why?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:39 a.m.
previous msg (deleted) someone(camryn?) said its best if pr doesn't claim pr + you said maf would claim town (edited)
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NOT Aeroyi
There is this thing called role fishing
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:40 a.m.
wdym and how do we prevent that
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
wdym and how do we prevent that
We kill people who role fish
1:41 a.m.
like if I asked you what your role was
1:41 a.m.
That'd be very sus
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 1:41 a.m.
huh
1:41 a.m.
what about asking to claim?
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it's sus
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that's pretty much it
1:48 a.m.
how does this chart even work?
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At the time of deciding roles, they pick a random alphabet and a number
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so it goes by row and column
1:50 a.m.
right now it seems that 1C and 2C is possible
1:51 a.m.
as for the rest, im not sure
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Can't say
1:51 a.m.
That is only possible if we have an extra citizen
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that's why i said
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wait let me fix that
1:51 a.m.
1C or 2C is possible
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Yeah everything is possible rn
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It's a total of 6 different setups
1:52 a.m.
Although this is like a really weird matrix setup since it's 3x2
1:52 a.m.
im saying 1c or 2c based of my own role Pepeeat
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I mean they have only 3 for mafia and 6 variations for town
1:53 a.m.
It works
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Guys
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Uh
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It's
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Generally not a good idea to claim your role until you absolutely need to
1:54 a.m.
Just putting that out there
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Things will be a lot clearer after n1
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im not anything useful
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Since people are bound to perform actions
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dont see why not (edited)
1:54 a.m.
You out the more useful prs
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Like
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If let's say there was a doctor in a random setup And 5 people claim civilian/no role And there are 7 towns
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The mafia now know who the doctor is and the doctor didn't even willingly claim
1:55 a.m.
And also not to mention that claiming vanilla/no role is actually like pointless
1:55 a.m.
welp
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It doesn't do anything except for make people less hesitant to vote you out and make the mafia have to determine one less person's role
1:56 a.m.
idk hopefully a PR has claimed vt
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but yeah
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Yeah don't worry about it too much
1:57 a.m.
but PRs should not be claiming
1:57 a.m.
nvm then
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NOT Aeroyi
but PRs should not be claiming
Claiming that they are PR; claiming you have no role is perfectly acceptable
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what is pr
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Plower roel
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Any role that has a function
1:59 a.m.
Like an ability
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Not civilian not goon
1:59 a.m.
Okay out of curiosity how much forum mafia/chat mafia experience do y'all have (everyone, not just people in thread)
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2 ongoing other than this
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i have never played this specific type of mafia
2:01 a.m.
but ive played other types + one of the special games
2:01 a.m.
that ended already
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-23 2:33 a.m.
@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] @star It's against the rules to edit or delete messages in game chat. I have to go though the logs to check each time someone does it.
2:37 a.m.
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i had autocorrect
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so it autocorrected my message
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-23 2:38 a.m.
To be fair both your edits and AFK's delete were innocent correction, but it can be used to mislead, so we it's not allowed
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
but honestly its kind of just first come first serve to me since i think anyone who said it earlier is most likely town :/
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:50 a.m.
reiterating that this doesnt mean anything at all- everyone in the game has full incentive to claim vanilla town
2:51 a.m.
if ur a pr role u wouldnt wanna out urself, if ur vanilla town then duh, and if ur maf ur gonna say ur vanilla town it means nothing
2:52 a.m.
oh read up more and aeoliae made the same point goat
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NOT Aeroyi
Okay out of curiosity how much forum mafia/chat mafia experience do y'all have (everyone, not just people in thread)
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:53 a.m.
ive played 3 forum mafia games
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Hi guys
3:30 a.m.
Its midnight for me im abt to go to bed
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Whats goin on
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
reiterating that this doesnt mean anything at all- everyone in the game has full incentive to claim vanilla town
mhm mhm
6:27 a.m.
so pretty much everyone will be claiming cit until either they have useful info/can CC a weird claim somehow
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NOT Aeroyi
Okay out of curiosity how much forum mafia/chat mafia experience do y'all have (everyone, not just people in thread)
oh and for this i don't really have much mafia experience but i've played a bit of other sdg like enemy on board, dread hunger and stuffs
6:29 a.m.
but most of of that stuff is all voice chat and focuses more on trying to get away with hidden actions over just reads based on text
6:30 a.m.
so am not really experienced at that
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@Zen you're being voted. How do you feel?
6:52 a.m.
doin alr ngl
6:52 a.m.
a bit tired cuz just woke
6:52 a.m.
but good
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 7:39 a.m.
@Helvaria hey hru
7:39 a.m.
let's talk
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 7:40 a.m.
?
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What do you want to talk about
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 7:40 a.m.
have you read chat
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 7:41 a.m.
what are ur thoughts then
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Noone really stands out to me as evil right now, but I have a few players that are probably town in mind
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NOT Aeroyi
Okay out of curiosity how much forum mafia/chat mafia experience do y'all have (everyone, not just people in thread)
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 7:42 a.m.
not much but recently im playing some games on a mafia bot
7:43 a.m.
its kind of a lot of wagoning
7:43 a.m.
and getting whoever's afk the most so idk that doesn't help much
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Helvaria
Noone really stands out to me as evil right now, but I have a few players that are probably town in mind
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-23 7:46 a.m.
hmm why didn't you talk more earlier
7:47 a.m.
(just what i was curious about cuz i only saw u reply once)
7:47 a.m.
also who do u hv in mind & what made you think that
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Because nothing of note has occured
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
also who do u hv in mind & what made you think that
I don't want anyone getting too comfortable, so I won't mention everyone I think is probably town. But since it has already been said, yes I also think Zenith is probably town for the attempted mass claim. That said, it's possible they were trying to find prs or had some plan for their team to claim.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:22 a.m.
hihi! will be working for 5 hrs so will be pretty spotty here today </3
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Zen
oh and for this i don't really have much mafia experience but i've played a bit of other sdg like enemy on board, dread hunger and stuffs
That's fine!
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:18 p.m.
if anyone has reads on anyone both town or scum tbh post <3
2:18 p.m.
to add on i also lean towards aeoliae being town but im not super confident on it
2:19 p.m.
zenith is my only solid town read here
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i don't really have anything
2:19 p.m.
i'd say i trust aeoliae
2:19 p.m.
but i think
2:19 p.m.
that's more so just cuz
2:19 p.m.
they've been teaching me stuff
2:19 p.m.
lmao
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:19 p.m.
theyve been productive ya
2:19 p.m.
LOL
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:21 p.m.
i dont rly like pixelads interactions here as well. they seem to j be posting a lot of fluff and not rly saying much to progress convo at all but granted its early
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:22 p.m.
? in regards to what
2:22 p.m.
if its fluff it means posts with no game substance
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i dont rly like pixelads interactions here as well. they seem to j be posting a lot of fluff and not rly saying much to progress convo at all but granted its early
tbf it isss kinda early and we have a bunch of time
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:22 p.m.
just like speaking to speak
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and esp if they're from like the org community like me then i get it ngl
2:22 p.m.
cuz i had that habit too
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:22 p.m.
im also from orgs omg
2:22 p.m.
what type?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:23 p.m.
ya but they r barely active and when they r they j post like nothing ab the game
2:23 p.m.
LOL
2:23 p.m.
and survivor/bb orgs
2:23 p.m.
i dont have clue
2:23 p.m.
like i said im just a citizen
2:23 p.m.
pepeHmm
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:23 p.m.
i mean i wasnt talking ab u LOL
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:24 p.m.
but kinda a weird response from u
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
and survivor/bb orgs
oo
2:25 p.m.
i could never get into bb
2:25 p.m.
it takes too longggg
2:25 p.m.
Sob
2:25 p.m.
for me i was mostly doin survivor or battlegrounds
2:25 p.m.
they're pretty funs
2:26 p.m.
but i've mostly stopped playing in them now
2:26 p.m.
took up too much of my time
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:28 p.m.
bb is wayyy more of a time commitment but im a better bb player than a survivor player
2:28 p.m.
its sm harder to get good reads in survivor too many variables
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Zen
took up too much of my time
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:28 p.m.
i agree they r a massive time sink sobs
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
its sm harder to get good reads in survivor too many variables
yesss but that's like what makes it so fun tho
2:31 p.m.
i think i thrive the best in those formats where u have 1on1s with people and hidden votes
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:32 p.m.
voted star j to get some convo going and bc i rly did not like their response to me talking ab my read on aeoliae. i never accused them of anything and they felt the need to randomly reiterate they were town with no prompting or warning ^_^
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you’re read on aeoliae?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i dont rly like pixelads interactions here as well. they seem to j be posting a lot of fluff and not rly saying much to progress convo at all but granted its early
you said this
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:32 p.m.
not aeoliae pixel my b
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and i thought you were implying to everyone
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:33 p.m.
implying what?
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implying how everyone is not giving much info and just fluff
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:33 p.m.
no i said that ab pixel
2:34 p.m.
and i didnt know that was another person
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:35 p.m.
regardless i dont rly like the constant reinforcing that ur a citizen it seems put on to me. am open to changing my vote but keeping it here for now
2:36 p.m.
what else should i have said
2:36 p.m.
that im mafia?
2:36 p.m.
whatever you believe
2:36 p.m.
up to you
2:37 p.m.
is less like
2:37 p.m.
they think u should have said something else
2:37 p.m.
and more just
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:37 p.m.
it truly isnt that deep😭im saying that weve established that claiming citizen ultimately means nothing. from my pov someone who feels the need to constantly claim that they r town is scumesque behavior bc it seems like ur TRYING to seem town rather than actually acting as town
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felt like u popped out to defend urself for somehting not at u
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
it truly isnt that deep😭im saying that weve established that claiming citizen ultimately means nothing. from my pov someone who feels the need to constantly claim that they r town is scumesque behavior bc it seems like ur TRYING to seem town rather than actually acting as town
ya ya this
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but ur probs fine star
2:38 p.m.
kirbypat
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i mean you could check me if you dont believe me PEPEhmmsus
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:39 p.m.
once i get more from everyone ill probs move my vote if i have a better read but its ultimately good to j put pressure on ppl to start convos
2:39 p.m.
bc no convos happening = no good reads forming from any of us
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i mean you could check me if you dont believe me PEPEhmmsus
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:39 p.m.
wdym by this
2:39 p.m.
😭
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it's not for sure that we even can check u
2:40 p.m.
without like voting u off ofc
2:40 p.m.
but that's
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well then lynch me off
2:40 p.m.
😭
2:41 p.m.
it's not that deep
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im just saying
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:54 p.m.
LMFAO
2:54 p.m.
calm down its legit a single vote😭
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 2:55 p.m.
hihi
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star
im just saying
Votes are usually used for checking reactions and since it's not EOD, they can be changed anytime
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Ok seriously whats going on
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You got a prod
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Yea ik that
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Try to maintain some activity here btw
3:40 p.m.
What happened other than that-
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It's just a single prod so shouldn't harm much
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Pixelad3
What happened other than that-
Town ended up voting a few lads
3:40 p.m.
You should backread a bit on that
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Zenith
Votes are usually used for checking reactions and since it's not EOD, they can be changed anytime
They can't be changed at EoD?
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They can't be changed after 12am GMT
3:41 p.m.
The chat is locked
3:42 p.m.
Usually a lot of changes are expected just before EOD
3:42 p.m.
Because that's pretty much the final lynch
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it's hard to predict the results by current status of votes
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Eod I normally refer to as the hour or two leading up to the actual dayend
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And also because it's d1
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Rollover is what I call the period of time between phases
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NOT Aeroyi
Eod I normally refer to as the hour or two leading up to the actual dayend
Oh I see
3:44 p.m.
I don't know these terms too well to say anything for sure but that's how I used it in the last game. Correct me if I am wrong.
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They differ between site tbh
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Ok I got a few reads
4:18 p.m.
Warning all of these are from looking at messages and gut feelings
4:19 p.m.
Aeoliae - Town Maybe??? IDK they could have a PR Zenith - Also Town, but I feel slightly more sure abt it Zenew - No clue Helvaria - Also no clue (edited)
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Pixelad3
Aeoliae - Town Maybe??? IDK they could have a PR Zenith - Also Town, but I feel slightly more sure abt it Zenew - No clue Helvaria - Also no clue (edited)
💀
4:22 p.m.
best to not discuss who you think are prs
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Oh fuck sorry
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 9:41 p.m.
yo
9:41 p.m.
is anyone here like waves
9:42 p.m.
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What
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Zenith
Town ended up voting a few lads
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 9:42 p.m.
wdym by town btw
9:43 p.m.
nothing im j bored and wanna make this chat active
9:43 p.m.
LOL
9:43 p.m.
aeoliae do u have any reads yet
9:46 p.m.
whats ur logic on the zen vote
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
Click to see attachment 🖼️
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 9:47 p.m.
we fr need to get discussion going
9:47 p.m.
i still know nothing all my reads r based off of minimal interactions 😭
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I am literally so sorry that I haven't been talking
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 9:51 p.m.
ur fine LOL i worked for like half of today
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Zenith
Try to maintain some activity here btw
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 9:53 p.m.
another question for u sorry. why do u feel the need to warn pixelad? im not asking bc i think its necessarily shady j curious to know ur rationale
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Well most people try and keep their players active either eay
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 9:54 p.m.
maybe so but im curious to know what zenith has to say about it
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
wdym by town btw
As a general term there. Can use chat instead.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
nothing im j bored and wanna make this chat active
Lol
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
another question for u sorry. why do u feel the need to warn pixelad? im not asking bc i think its necessarily shady j curious to know ur rationale
Honestly it would be bad to lose players to prods rn especially since we still don't have enough reads on them. And no other way to get reads than having them actively chat here.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
is anyone here like waves
Hii
10:59 p.m.
Again honestly no clue what to talk abt but im trying to be active when I can
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so true camryn
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:23 p.m.
ok so i feel more confident in this read now after the responses so im putting it here. this interaction SCREAMS that pixel/zenith are paired in some way in the game. the moment pixel comes in and asks a simple question zenith immediately warns him ab the prod which ig can be in good faith. but this is what bothers me ab the interaction
  • the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake.
  • zenith has never interacted with any other user like this other than pixelad. i read thru their posts and theyve never warned any other players of getting pushed. theyve only ever interacted and given advice/help to pixelad so far
  • “just a single prod so shouldnt harm much” reads as sooooo scummy to me like wdym it shouldnt harm much? if ur town, pushes r something that benefit the game, u want to talk about why people are getting pushed and what theyve said to solve them lastly and what encouraged me to make this post is the moment zenith responded and came online, pixelad suddenly appears literally a minute after them out of nowhere. everytime pixelad has appeared today its been right after zenith speaks in chat. this just screams paired interaction and im leaning towards it being scummy
11:24 p.m.
why u were typing for so long
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:25 p.m.
well yes
11:25 p.m.
😭
11:25 p.m.
well for the other points
11:25 p.m.
i'm not rly sure abt them
11:25 p.m.
but will say
11:25 p.m.
"the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake."
11:26 p.m.
this is like
11:26 p.m.
pretty normal i'd say
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:26 p.m.
LOL ive never once seen that in the forum games ive played tbf
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maybe is more a tos thingy?
11:26 p.m.
ig
11:26 p.m.
cuz ur like the town
11:26 p.m.
of salem
11:26 p.m.
idfk
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:26 p.m.
so it set off alarm bells for me but regardless i still have this read without zenith saying that
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but i've seen it used plenty
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:27 p.m.
i j think pixelad only appearing everytime after zenith has spoken today is bizarre and kinda undeniable
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u feel like
11:28 p.m.
they go maf chat, talk then come here and talk
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or just
11:28 p.m.
the fact they both come same time is weird
11:28 p.m.
?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:28 p.m.
ya thats mt main point
11:28 p.m.
their interactions seem coordinated
11:30 p.m.
and the way zenith interacts w pixel seems different than how hes interacted w anyone else in the game thus far from backreading his posts
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ok so i feel more confident in this read now after the responses so im putting it here. this interaction SCREAMS that pixel/zenith are paired in some way in the game. the moment pixel comes in and asks a simple question zenith immediately warns him ab the prod which ig can be in good faith. but this is what bothers me ab the interaction
  • the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake.
  • zenith has never interacted with any other user like this other than pixelad. i read thru their posts and theyve never warned any other players of getting pushed. theyve only ever interacted and given advice/help to pixelad so far
  • “just a single prod so shouldnt harm much” reads as sooooo scummy to me like wdym it shouldnt harm much? if ur town, pushes r something that benefit the game, u want to talk about why people are getting pushed and what theyve said to solve them lastly and what encouraged me to make this post is the moment zenith responded and came online, pixelad suddenly appears literally a minute after them out of nowhere. everytime pixelad has appeared today its been right after zenith speaks in chat. this just screams paired interaction and im leaning towards it being scummy
I dont even know them
11:31 p.m.
I mixed them up with zen a few times actually-
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:31 p.m.
u might know them in ur scum chat idk >_<
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The whole talking after each other thing is a coincidence
11:31 p.m.
Idek why they warned me abt prods
11:32 p.m.
I already knew by then
11:32 p.m.
Its just a stupid reminder
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:32 p.m.
im not saying u have a relationship outside of this game or anything im saying the way uve interacted w them is bizarre and seems like within the game that ur paired
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Pixelad3
Idek why they warned me abt prods
The host literally told me about it in my player chat
11:33 p.m.
And I saw that first
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And then I asked what was going on with the votes
11:33 p.m.
And they just started talking abt prods like
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I fucking know ok
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:33 p.m.
im not saying that did or didnt happen thats not rly the point im making LOL the interaction j read as very strange and i wanted to point it out
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Zen
"the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake."
Yea I just use the word town bc I play town of salem lol
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:34 p.m.
u didnt say that zenith did
11:34 p.m.
ftr
11:34 p.m.
Because I dont know them ✨
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At all ✨
11:35 p.m.
And I think town is a pretty common term in things like these ✨
11:35 p.m.
Hope that helps
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:35 p.m.
it didnt ✨
11:36 p.m.
i love the sass
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Pixelad3
I mixed them up with zen a few times actually-
kinda rude tho
11:36 p.m.
smh
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zen and zenith are so different names smhh
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I mix ppl up a lot dw
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maybe it'd help if you shortened zenith's name
11:37 p.m.
maybe zen
11:37 p.m.
so
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you have
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zen
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and zen
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AA_Uraraka_ThumbsUp
11:37 p.m.
hope that helps
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I mixed them up in my head
11:37 p.m.
lmao
11:38 p.m.
i did act go to check the name zen in the search in case my name was said and i missed it
11:38 p.m.
and i saw zenith was called zen
11:38 p.m.
in another game they played
11:38 p.m.
i was so confused
11:38 p.m.
for a sec
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:38 p.m.
having extremely similar names is so unfortunate LOL
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Yea thankfully I didnt rlly mix up ur names lol
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
having extremely similar names is so unfortunate LOL
yeahhh
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I just get confused at time xp
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but it's kinda cute ngl
11:39 p.m.
uhhh
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okay
11:39 p.m.
is there anyone who hasn't like
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talked yet
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Star I think
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nah star was on for a bit before
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they seem kinda a bit
11:40 p.m.
happy to die tho
11:40 p.m.
idk if that's too great
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:40 p.m.
the rainbow pfp person hasnt rly talked
11:40 p.m.
besides like 3 messages ijbol
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:40 p.m.
ider their name
11:40 p.m.
LOLLL
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Last time I checked they had 7 messages in here
11:40 p.m.
Wait ik their name uhh
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Helvaria
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@camryn (✿◠‿◠) @Zen @NOT Aeroyi @Ace! @star @Helvaria @[𝙰𝙵𝙺] @Zenith @Pixelad3
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OH
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THTA PFINF
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SOBS
11:40 p.m.
NOOO
11:41 p.m.
i was tryna copy paste the players
11:41 p.m.
ams sorry
11:41 p.m.
💀
11:41 p.m.
okay
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but
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helvaria
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yeah
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i mean ig i pinged the right person at least
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Yea lol-
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they weren't showing as pings in the msg 😭
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:42 p.m.
u got deceived and bamboozled
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literally clowned on
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Discord is being evil lol
11:42 p.m.
alr welp
11:42 p.m.
also wow
11:42 p.m.
i forgot how little players there were tho
11:43 p.m.
for some reason i thought we were way more
11:43 p.m.
ig cuz when i think of mafia i think of bigger games
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like more 15-20+
11:44 p.m.
who is ace
11:44 p.m.
have they talked
11:44 p.m.
Lemme check
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Zen
who is ace
Yea they have
11:44 p.m.
41 messages
11:44 p.m.
i also searched them up
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okay okay i know their pfp
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just
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forgor the name
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Reall
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:46 p.m.
do yall have any reads like pls share i look like a tweaker being the only one posting shit 💀
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I read aeoliae (i think thats how u spell their name?? Idk) as town earlier but im not that good at reads and it was sorta based on gut feeling-
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sobs sorry i'm not used ot like text mafia and the like reads
11:47 p.m.
but ig
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off
11:47 p.m.
vibes so far
11:48 p.m.
camryn feels like they at least want an active game which is good for town
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uhh aeolie i said sam earlier that i kinda trust but i think i might be biased cuz they were helping me earlier
11:48 p.m.
same*
11:49 p.m.
aside from that
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Pixelad3
I read aeoliae (i think thats how u spell their name?? Idk) as town earlier but im not that good at reads and it was sorta based on gut feeling-
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:49 p.m.
i think gut reading ppl isnt bad ftr bc ultimately ur getting good vibes from what they r posting
11:49 p.m.
i also said i town leaned aeolie triplets ig blurry_crying
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tryna think
11:49 p.m.
but idt
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i think gut reading ppl isnt bad ftr bc ultimately ur getting good vibes from what they r posting
Yea
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i have much else ngl
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i also said i town leaned aeolie triplets ig blurry_crying
AHAHHASHSHSHH
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maybe i'll remember if i do and mention it
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Yea same here I dont rlly have many reads
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cheers to being clueless?
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I think zenith might be town but I’m feeling a bit unsure of that now-
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well not clueless clueless but
11:50 p.m.
u know
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:50 p.m.
ftr zenith was my strongest town read before i like analyzed that interaction
11:50 p.m.
bananagif
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What interaction? /genq
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:51 p.m.
oh the one i like posted an essay about LMFAO
11:51 p.m.
Yea I was busy defending myself like I was in court srry-
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ftr zenith was my strongest town read before i like analyzed that interaction
OH WAIT
11:52 p.m.
i do remember
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so abt zenith
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idk how i feel abt them after
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but i remember
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feeling weird abt their first msgs
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cuz like
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i know a lot of people said it was like
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Zen
feeling weird abt their first msgs
Now that I think abt it same
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very towny
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but it felt like
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fake to me
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somehow
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Honestly same
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but am also not good at these games
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so i hushed
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oop hi ace
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Pixelad3
Yea I was busy defending myself like I was in court srry-
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-23 11:53 p.m.
sry if im doing too much im not trying to attack j trying to get somewhere w reads and it lowkey made chat active so yays
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ace! ★
Honestly same
Hi ace
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
sry if im doing too much im not trying to attack j trying to get somewhere w reads and it lowkey made chat active so yays
Yaya
11:53 p.m.
I was trying to be more active anyway lol-
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
sry if im doing too much im not trying to attack j trying to get somewhere w reads and it lowkey made chat active so yays
drama makes the world go round ig
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So its ok ^^
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ok so i feel more confident in this read now after the responses so im putting it here. this interaction SCREAMS that pixel/zenith are paired in some way in the game. the moment pixel comes in and asks a simple question zenith immediately warns him ab the prod which ig can be in good faith. but this is what bothers me ab the interaction
  • the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake.
  • zenith has never interacted with any other user like this other than pixelad. i read thru their posts and theyve never warned any other players of getting pushed. theyve only ever interacted and given advice/help to pixelad so far
  • “just a single prod so shouldnt harm much” reads as sooooo scummy to me like wdym it shouldnt harm much? if ur town, pushes r something that benefit the game, u want to talk about why people are getting pushed and what theyve said to solve them lastly and what encouraged me to make this post is the moment zenith responded and came online, pixelad suddenly appears literally a minute after them out of nowhere. everytime pixelad has appeared today its been right after zenith speaks in chat. this just screams paired interaction and im leaning towards it being scummy
That prod talk was a sort of test
5:23 a.m.
I have noticed that the prod rules are a bit lenient in the sense that mafia can get away with them 2 nights in a row
5:24 a.m.
Though I didn't have a strong reason to suspect pixel, I just tried to gauge his reaction on that caution
5:25 a.m.
It was actually because someone pointed out that maybe the mafia could have revealed their roles to appear towny
5:26 a.m.
And talking about prods might give some hints
5:27 a.m.
What I had in mind back then was to get reasons for absence than question the slight irrelevance of the question
5:27 a.m.
A mafia probably would have gone for the former
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Zenith
It was actually because someone pointed out that maybe the mafia could have revealed their roles to appear towny
*revealed early
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That being said that was a solid analysis.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 6:33 a.m.
responding to camryn asking us to post reads -- too lazy to scroll through and find the msg -yes i have some thoughts but most have been said and some i haven't thought of yet -idk how much i can add to it (probably very little) -if reiterating other's points is useless i'll just skip that next time but rn i'll just write out whatever
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:18 a.m.
impressions/reads (?) idek if these are reads also these are just what i remember from yesterday nothing too much from today ig
helvaria
more afk than me lol what only had one msg when i came back home yesterday --> voted zen and asked how he felt or smth (that was the ONLY interaction i saw and no reasons were given other than smth similar to "found nothing to reply to") ofc other than me asking questions but i got nothing from their replies either, didn't add anything much to convo and i didn't want to just keep asking questions/had nothing else to say to them (idk im not an interrogator)
staururio
i think i had star as town yesterday (actually cuz they kinda kept talking about being a citizen) reading today's chat was weird they talked about town citizen 4 times yesterday and once today -IF we rly want to pick out some problems (actually nothing much here they just have less msges so its easier to read through and randomly pick out some msges that others may not have asked) "who hasnt claimed?" -- could just be asking cuz there was a list which was not filled in fully yet (town)/but also could be looking out for who else might be pr and not in the list (maf) "how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen" -- town asking genuinely/yeah how are normal citizens going to find out who's maf (maf) "i think we also have to vote someone off tonight" -- no one said a thing about this / thnx for the reminder? / who should we vote off tonight (town/maf)
zenith_orionis
-first to ask us to claim vil (+town points for me) -has played/is playing 2 other games (i think?) -smth about "we should not single out PRs" but if they have some experience playing chat mafia then why the claim list thing (-town) -haven't rly read today's interactions but most have been covered by camryn
pixelad3
-most afk here -just hellos and goodnights -said they had an rp server so they're inactive (still haven't talked much) not enough characters remaining
7:19 a.m.
still have zenew, camryn, ace, aeoliae
7:20 a.m.
im too lazy to type lol lemme take a break
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:33 a.m.
oh yeah i remembered someone giving their reads on who pr may be and that is a lil dangerous
7:33 a.m.
i forgot who though
7:38 a.m.
guyssssss wake up
7:39 a.m.
this is why i don't like mafia games that takes days meowdy
7:39 a.m.
basically any games tho even chess cuz there's less interaction with others than in short games (does that make sense?)
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Alright here
7:40 a.m.
Let me find that message
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:41 a.m.
oh hi
7:41 a.m.
what message
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NOT Aeroyi
(role fishing, not deleting messages)
Around this part
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:42 a.m.
what
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
oh yeah i remembered someone giving their reads on who pr may be and that is a lil dangerous
Trying to find who you were talking about
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:43 a.m.
oh okay
7:44 a.m.
do you have any reads though
7:44 a.m.
or sent any msges about ur reads
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I haven't
7:45 a.m.
I have just tried a few tricks
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:45 a.m.
do tell?
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Zenith
That prod talk was a sort of test
One of them was this
7:46 a.m.
What do you think a town would have responded to when asked about getting a prod?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:46 a.m.
idk
7:47 a.m.
"sorry was busy i will try to talk more when im free"
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???
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Probably yeah
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:47 a.m.
but that's just normal convo
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And what about a mafia?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:47 a.m.
that doesn't even relate to mafia or town
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Zenith
And what about a mafia?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:47 a.m.
"oops i was too busy in mafia gc hehe my bad"
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Lol I feel the mafia would be more inclined to defend themselves there
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Especially if it was an intentional inactivity
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Since like I said earlier, it's easy to get away with prods
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:48 a.m.
catsit
7:48 a.m.
i ghost others a lot irl
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Zenith
Since like I said earlier, it's easy to get away with prods
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:49 a.m.
yes
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
i ghost others a lot irl
I find it difficult somehow
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Zenith
I have just tried a few tricks
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:49 a.m.
anything else?
7:49 a.m.
or just try something on me im bored
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Well I tried to do something with my earlier stuff
7:49 a.m.
But it was just poor logic at the end
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:49 a.m.
oh yeah kinda
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impressions/reads (?) idek if these are reads also these are just what i remember from yesterday nothing too much from today ig
helvaria
more afk than me lol what only had one msg when i came back home yesterday --> voted zen and asked how he felt or smth (that was the ONLY interaction i saw and no reasons were given other than smth similar to "found nothing to reply to") ofc other than me asking questions but i got nothing from their replies either, didn't add anything much to convo and i didn't want to just keep asking questions/had nothing else to say to them (idk im not an interrogator)
staururio
i think i had star as town yesterday (actually cuz they kinda kept talking about being a citizen) reading today's chat was weird they talked about town citizen 4 times yesterday and once today -IF we rly want to pick out some problems (actually nothing much here they just have less msges so its easier to read through and randomly pick out some msges that others may not have asked) "who hasnt claimed?" -- could just be asking cuz there was a list which was not filled in fully yet (town)/but also could be looking out for who else might be pr and not in the list (maf) "how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen" -- town asking genuinely/yeah how are normal citizens going to find out who's maf (maf) "i think we also have to vote someone off tonight" -- no one said a thing about this / thnx for the reminder? / who should we vote off tonight (town/maf)
zenith_orionis
-first to ask us to claim vil (+town points for me) -has played/is playing 2 other games (i think?) -smth about "we should not single out PRs" but if they have some experience playing chat mafia then why the claim list thing (-town) -haven't rly read today's interactions but most have been covered by camryn
pixelad3
-most afk here -just hellos and goodnights -said they had an rp server so they're inactive (still haven't talked much) not enough characters remaining
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:50 a.m.
btw thoughts on yours?
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It's hard to find patterns now that I tried to read it
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:50 a.m.
basically just the one thing about how you've played other games
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Yeah I am playing 2 other games
7:50 a.m.
But one started after this one (sp-51)
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And it is the only other game that have prs
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:51 a.m.
huh
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So I am kind of inexperienced with these roles
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:51 a.m.
there are games without prs?
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Like I have not completed a game yet
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
there are games without prs?
Yep
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:51 a.m.
no doctors no mayors at all?
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All citizens
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:51 a.m.
??????
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Hydra games
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:51 a.m.
how-
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anyways
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Eg.
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Zenith
Yeah I am playing 2 other games
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:53 a.m.
have you finished any chat mafia games
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Your star read seems pretty well-explained
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
have you finished any chat mafia games
Not yet
7:54 a.m.
I have played Mafiabot before getting into these long games
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Zenith
Your star read seems pretty well-explained
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:55 a.m.
not rly just bored and typing whatever catsit
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Zenith
I have played Mafiabot before getting into these long games
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:55 a.m.
yesyes mafiabot
7:56 a.m.
those have prs too no?
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Yep they do
7:56 a.m.
It's a hard comparison between these two games though
7:56 a.m.
Seemingly there are things you can risk doing in shorter games
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Zenith
It's a hard comparison between these two games though
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:57 a.m.
kinda (also not used to not finishing a game in under an hour kjdfhglakfg)
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Same here
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
btw thoughts on yours?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:58 a.m.
-smth about "we should not single out PRs" but if they have some experience playing chat mafia then why the claim list thing (-town)
care to answer me on this?
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Claim list thing
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:59 a.m.
uh
7:59 a.m.
the one
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Do you mean the first one?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 7:59 a.m.
you did at the beginning
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Oh that
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Well I was trying to divide the town in two but I guess it wasn't that easy + it would have helped mafia
8:00 a.m.
Trying to reduce the number of people to check on
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 8:03 a.m.
did you plan the claim list thing before the game started? Sip
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Well it was like something that struck me
8:04 a.m.
I kind of rushed there without giving it much thought
8:04 a.m.
My logic was rather elementary too
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Zenith
I kind of rushed there without giving it much thought
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 8:04 a.m.
i can see that
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I just thought that it can divide the town in two groups, one claiming to be citizens, other not
8:04 a.m.
And since there can be only 5 (at max 6), we can probably find an anomaly
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 8:05 a.m.
yeah i read that
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But then I didn't account for the threat prs will have to face
8:06 a.m.
If anything, it probably broke the ice
8:06 a.m.
Still unsure how to properly start off these games
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 8:06 a.m.
hmmm ok
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Zenith
Still unsure how to properly start off these games
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 8:07 a.m.
i don't need to hehe Sip (thanks to timezone)
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 8:09 a.m.
alright imma go study then do the remaining reads
8:09 a.m.
good luck to me meowdy
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Good luck
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Hello town
9:53 a.m.
End of day is coming soon
9:54 a.m.
Unfortunately, I will not be there
9:54 a.m.
As such, I will say what I think of our current situation
9:54 a.m.
Right now
9:55 a.m.
I don't think we should vote Zenith, AFK, or Camryn. They've been the only ones contributing reads so far. No point killing them off now.
9:55 a.m.
I don't think star is evil. They seem more inexperienced, and unfamiliar with how to play without night abilities.
9:56 a.m.
They also display a complete inability to read the 2x3 matrix, by ignoring the 5x citizen.
9:57 a.m.
It's possible for an evil to do this, but I would expect an evil to be more familiar with how the matrix works.
9:58 a.m.
Remaining are Zen/Aeoliae/Ace/pixel
9:58 a.m.
I am voting @NOT Aeroyi
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:02 a.m.
reasons?
10:04 a.m.
@Helvaria
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Helvaria
Unfortunately, I will not be there
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:05 a.m.
1. why not
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Helvaria
I don't think we should vote Zenith, AFK, or Camryn. They've been the only ones contributing reads so far. No point killing them off now.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:06 a.m.
you could also contribute some reads
10:06 a.m.
but didn't
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
1. why not
Timezone
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Helvaria
I don't think star is evil. They seem more inexperienced, and unfamiliar with how to play without night abilities.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:06 a.m.
reasons to not vote zenith/afk/camryn/star ☑️ reasons to vote aeoliae ❌
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Helvaria
Timezone
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:07 a.m.
were u busy all day?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
reasons?
They're clearly capable at mafia.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:07 a.m.
why are you talking so little
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But if you look at their messages, they haven't contributed much
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
why are you talking so little
I don't think talking a lot is a necessity for a mafia game.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:08 a.m.
???
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:09 a.m.
did you not read rules?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
were u busy all day?
Timezone is the reason I can't be there at day end.
10:09 a.m.
Because I'm not awake
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Helvaria
Hello town
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:09 a.m.
these are only 11 msges
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Helvaria
Timezone is the reason I can't be there at day end.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:09 a.m.
what about the rest of the time
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
did you not read rules?
I did.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
what about the rest of the time
I was busy, or just didn't feel like saying anything.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:10 a.m.
ok, good luck then 💀
10:10 a.m.
wanna give reads?
10:11 a.m.
like
10:11 a.m.
why should i not vote you
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
wanna give reads?
Na, not now, probably not today
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
why should i not vote you
Because I'm town.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:12 a.m.
lol
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
and alternatively if someone is avoiding talking we should probs put sme pressure on them
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:24 a.m.
dude @Helvaria
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ya but us as town NOT TALKING is even worse for us winning like we cant form reads if convos dont happen LOL
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:25 a.m.
^^this
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:44 a.m.
zenew
so far seems to be more observant/more convos (since its d1 but at least they talk)/nothing much from zen until asked for reads --- gave reads -- mentioned inexperience in these kind games in msges
cabbate
-mvp lol -checks in from time to time (active) -gives a lot of info/gets the game going/kind of gives us a direction as to how to play and what not to do etc -gives reads whenever she can & encourages others to do so as well -all her reads have reasons supporting it and not just short/half-assed reasons --points-->conclusion
Ace!
seems new -- also townish -- just from the way they talk -- also they haven't spoken much today either
aeoliae
was just leaning for town until helvaria said smth -gives info about game/tells us what to avoid/mentioned poke voting strategy/explaining a bunch of stuff/also said to not out prs -poke voted zen but did not say anything -kind of just did that to accompany the poke voting mention in chat (?) -said they had to set things up to run a game soon (maybe that's why they're not talking now?) -asked about other's experience but never replied/talked about their experience ace! - 3 msges aeoliae - 9 msges is it normal for many players to be prodded or is it this game only??
10:58 a.m.
Not new
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:58 a.m.
oh
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Well as new as some are
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 10:58 a.m.
my bad
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This is like my 6th? 7th?
10:59 a.m.
8th.
11:00 a.m.
So I have 4msgs totall
11:00 a.m.
47*
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its pretty normal to have more people prodded because we have less people
11:01 a.m.
9 isnt as much as 20
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:01 a.m.
hihi
11:01 a.m.
sry i drank last night LOL
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Yeah.
11:01 a.m.
Its all good
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:01 a.m.
extra reads on helvaria since they finally talked --i don't like how they don't bother to talk -isn't talking for most of the day and pops in for a bit (probably less than an hour) -doesn't add anything too much unless asked (eg. reasons for voting aeoliae) -seemed out of the blue to me before they gave a reason (gave a couple names, then said they're voting aeoliae & what about the others?) -but they could probably want aeoliae out because they're capable at mafia (maf wouldn't want someone capable to be in their way and prefer to vote them out first?/or maybe it would help later on so they won't seem to suddenly be sussing on aeoliae)/(if town then they know each other and aeoliae is usually actively helping as town but idk their relationship) -"i don't think we should vote...contributing reads..." may be an attempt to sound town and cuz town would be less likely to kill those who contribute reads especially when in contrast to those who don't show up much - but zen ace pixel (i think, iirc) have also given some reads -"no point killing them off now" kill? not vote? -star no evil - noted -"unfamiliar with how to play without night abilities" - how do you know they don't have night abilities? -why would evil be more familiar with the matrix -only reason they gave for being inactive is busy/don't feel like saying anything -reason for inactivity in EoD is timezone -i won't be active during EoD either cuz of timezone, but i still talk more ???
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ace! ★
8th.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:02 a.m.
ohhh that's a lot
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Okay. Would we vote them? Or pray we have lieka. Tracker or something
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:03 a.m.
what
11:03 a.m.
who
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:03 a.m.
im probs switching off of my star vote btw
11:03 a.m.
their reaction after i voted them was giving angry new town
11:03 a.m.
LOL
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:03 a.m.
lmao
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:03 a.m.
idt u tweak like that if ur maf even if ur new
11:03 a.m.
LMFAO
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:04 a.m.
vote me vote me Sip
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
who
Hel?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:04 a.m.
i wanna talk with u
11:04 a.m.
ok ill stop tweaking then
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ace! ★
Hel?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:04 a.m.
i haven't changed my vote on them (wasn't bothered to but for now i don't have anyone else to vote for)
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:05 a.m.
ace has posted nothing but fluffposts which is worth talking about btw
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ace has posted nothing but fluffposts which is worth talking about btw
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:05 a.m.
catsit
11:06 a.m.
yeah shortest one out of my reads
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well now that i know how the matrix works
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catsit
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well now that i know how the matrix works
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:07 a.m.
yeah?
11:07 a.m.
what's next
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the mafias would lean more towards the two goons
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:08 a.m.
idt im following
11:08 a.m.
😭
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:08 a.m.
were you the one talking about 1c or 2c
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:08 a.m.
oh
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if there are 5 villages
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and many are citizens
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then that means the roll could have been 1C or 2C
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:09 a.m.
but we don't know how many are actually citizens
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-24 11:09 a.m.
lmao @Ngekop ping me in a game im not in 😭
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
lmao @Ngekop ping me in a game im not in 😭
FacepalmLmao
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-24 11:09 a.m.
THIS WAS THE MOST EXCITING GAME EVER
11:09 a.m.
i watched every minute of it
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:09 a.m.
@/Lagavulin
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
THIS WAS THE MOST EXCITING GAME EVER
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:09 a.m.
which
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-24 11:09 a.m.
woops
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:09 a.m.
i also have zenew hesitantly town read currently, i feel like even if she didnt provide too much of her own reads a lot of her engagements in convo were to progress game solving not distract from it
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but we don't know how many are actually citizens
im saying it based off my own awkward
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-24 11:09 a.m.
OMFG
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sorry
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:10 a.m.
lmao
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wrong chat?
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-24 11:10 a.m.
nge pinged me in sp51 by mistake
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instead of ma76
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then i also pinged him in the wrong chat to tell him
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FacepalmLmao
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-24 11:10 a.m.
anyway carry on
11:11 a.m.
you have less than 3 hours lol
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
you have less than 3 hours lol
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:11 a.m.
the others are not showing up 😭
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did that make sense though?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:11 a.m.
no?
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ok so
11:11 a.m.
it's either 5 + 2 or 6 + 1 ?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:12 a.m.
how do you know you're one of the 5 citizens
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the others are not showing up 😭
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-24 11:12 a.m.
well, you could ping @ alivelineNE -- it would get everyone alive in this game pinged 💀
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:12 a.m.
or that you're the extra citizen
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
well, you could ping @ alivelineNE -- it would get everyone alive in this game pinged 💀
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:12 a.m.
omg yes
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can i
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i also have zenew hesitantly town read currently, i feel like even if she didnt provide too much of her own reads a lot of her engagements in convo were to progress game solving not distract from it
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:12 a.m.
i think i could be biased tho bc shes interacted w me like everytime ive posted LOL so ive seen a lot of her active
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:12 a.m.
ohh
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i don't remember too much about zenew
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:12 a.m.
regardless i think shes not a great day 1 vote bc shes active and contributing
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:14 a.m.
i kinda want to vote helvaria out just for not being active (kind of biased) catsit
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What do you think about pixel? I really don't understand what to make out of the chats
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:14 a.m.
pixel is not contributing much
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but
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i don't think i read much about her posts today
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impressions/reads (?) idek if these are reads also these are just what i remember from yesterday nothing too much from today ig
helvaria
more afk than me lol what only had one msg when i came back home yesterday --> voted zen and asked how he felt or smth (that was the ONLY interaction i saw and no reasons were given other than smth similar to "found nothing to reply to") ofc other than me asking questions but i got nothing from their replies either, didn't add anything much to convo and i didn't want to just keep asking questions/had nothing else to say to them (idk im not an interrogator)
staururio
i think i had star as town yesterday (actually cuz they kinda kept talking about being a citizen) reading today's chat was weird they talked about town citizen 4 times yesterday and once today -IF we rly want to pick out some problems (actually nothing much here they just have less msges so its easier to read through and randomly pick out some msges that others may not have asked) "who hasnt claimed?" -- could just be asking cuz there was a list which was not filled in fully yet (town)/but also could be looking out for who else might be pr and not in the list (maf) "how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen" -- town asking genuinely/yeah how are normal citizens going to find out who's maf (maf) "i think we also have to vote someone off tonight" -- no one said a thing about this / thnx for the reminder? / who should we vote off tonight (town/maf)
zenith_orionis
-first to ask us to claim vil (+town points for me) -has played/is playing 2 other games (i think?) -smth about "we should not single out PRs" but if they have some experience playing chat mafia then why the claim list thing (-town) -haven't rly read today's interactions but most have been covered by camryn
pixelad3
-most afk here -just hellos and goodnights -said they had an rp server so they're inactive (still haven't talked much) not enough characters remaining
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:14 a.m.
also in regards to the zenith thing he at first said he did want PRs to claim
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one question
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:15 a.m.
LOL
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and i said that rhats bad practice
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:15 a.m.
so my thoughts on pixel is still yesterdays
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:15 a.m.
and he moved off of it
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Yeah I can see your point
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Helvaria
I am voting @NOT Aeroyi
h uh
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It was a half-cooked strat
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should mafia be more active or less active
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
and he moved off of it
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:15 a.m.
ye im just saying if he has played mafia he should know not to isolate prs (probably)
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should mafia be more active or less active
Can be both
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:15 a.m.
ohhhhhhh my b
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Zenith
Can be both
so then still would go back to step 1
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should mafia be more active or less active
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:16 a.m.
i hope they're active so i can get more reads Sip
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NOT Aeroyi
h uh
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:16 a.m.
hiiiii you're back
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so then still would go back to step 1
It depends on the playstyle actually Some mafias are just more active
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if the mafia isnt active, then how would they know who to use their action on
11:16 a.m.
if the mafia understands the prod, they would try to be more active to not be kicked
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:17 a.m.
huh
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zenew
so far seems to be more observant/more convos (since its d1 but at least they talk)/nothing much from zen until asked for reads --- gave reads -- mentioned inexperience in these kind games in msges
cabbate
-mvp lol -checks in from time to time (active) -gives a lot of info/gets the game going/kind of gives us a direction as to how to play and what not to do etc -gives reads whenever she can & encourages others to do so as well -all her reads have reasons supporting it and not just short/half-assed reasons --points-->conclusion
Ace!
seems new -- also townish -- just from the way they talk -- also they haven't spoken much today either
aeoliae
was just leaning for town until helvaria said smth -gives info about game/tells us what to avoid/mentioned poke voting strategy/explaining a bunch of stuff/also said to not out prs -poke voted zen but did not say anything -kind of just did that to accompany the poke voting mention in chat (?) -said they had to set things up to run a game soon (maybe that's why they're not talking now?) -asked about other's experience but never replied/talked about their experience ace! - 3 msges aeoliae - 9 msges is it normal for many players to be prodded or is it this game only??
My online mafia experience spans over 5 different websites and over 50 different games the majority of which are losses across the last 10 months I suppose I did forget to mention that
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or they could simply be someone who talks enough to meet the prod message minimum
11:17 a.m.
then spend the rest of the time reading messages
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Yeah can be Some can get prodded on purpose to make it seem that they are genuinely not available
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If the mafia aren't active they can enjoy the wrath of the inactivity filter
11:18 a.m.
Imo
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if the mafia isnt active, then how would they know who to use their action on
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:18 a.m.
they can just lurk
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thats what im saying
11:18 a.m.
they would just talk enough to meet the requirements to not get prodded
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if the mafia understands the prod, they would try to be more active to not be kicked
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:18 a.m.
i don't think helvaria even cares about the prod i don't get ittt 😭
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oh
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they're typing
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i don't think helvaria even cares about the prod i don't get ittt 😭
there’s another type where mafia doesnt care about the prod until last moment
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they can just lurk
Super easy to catch a "Dingo" mafia though
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@NOT Aeroyi good to see you're here. Could you say something about the game that doesn't concern setup or general gameplay features?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:19 a.m.
zenith ig i have a question, why did u think it was smart to encourage pr claims here
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Perhaps name a few people, while at it.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:19 a.m.
if uve played maf before
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NOT Aeroyi
My online mafia experience spans over 5 different websites and over 50 different games the majority of which are losses across the last 10 months I suppose I did forget to mention that
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:20 a.m.
ig you have the most experience playing mafia here then?
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Helvaria
Perhaps name a few people, while at it.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:20 a.m.
you too
11:20 a.m.
thnx
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ig you have the most experience playing mafia here then?
Yes
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
zenith ig i have a question, why did u think it was smart to encourage pr claims here
Real!!
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
zenith ig i have a question, why did u think it was smart to encourage pr claims here
It was my first game with prs in it so I wanted to divide the group in two to narrow down on possible false claims
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
zenith ig i have a question, why did u think it was smart to encourage pr claims here
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:20 a.m.
did they say that
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:21 a.m.
ta
11:21 a.m.
ya
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Helvaria
@NOT Aeroyi good to see you're here. Could you say something about the game that doesn't concern setup or general gameplay features?
Um nothing's coming to mind rn
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:21 a.m.
day 1
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First group of people claiming citizens The other not claiming anything or pr
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:21 a.m.
they said pr should claim
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Zenith
It was my first game with prs in it so I wanted to divide the group in two to narrow down on possible false claims
wouldnt you expect mafias to claim that too?
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It'd be pretty hard to claim prs
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Zenith
It was my first game with prs in it so I wanted to divide the group in two to narrow down on possible false claims
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:21 a.m.
but you've played with mafia bot which is filled with prs (?) -or maybe cuz its short games and they often ask ppl to claim
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Yep it's shorter
11:21 a.m.
Can take such risks
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NOT Aeroyi
Um nothing's coming to mind rn
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:22 a.m.
HMMM
11:22 a.m.
have you caught up with chat?
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with the mafia bots?
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wouldnt you expect mafias to claim that too?
I mean that was the point since they will have to claim either
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have you caught up with chat?
Most of the time
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extra reads on helvaria since they finally talked --i don't like how they don't bother to talk -isn't talking for most of the day and pops in for a bit (probably less than an hour) -doesn't add anything too much unless asked (eg. reasons for voting aeoliae) -seemed out of the blue to me before they gave a reason (gave a couple names, then said they're voting aeoliae & what about the others?) -but they could probably want aeoliae out because they're capable at mafia (maf wouldn't want someone capable to be in their way and prefer to vote them out first?/or maybe it would help later on so they won't seem to suddenly be sussing on aeoliae)/(if town then they know each other and aeoliae is usually actively helping as town but idk their relationship) -"i don't think we should vote...contributing reads..." may be an attempt to sound town and cuz town would be less likely to kill those who contribute reads especially when in contrast to those who don't show up much - but zen ace pixel (i think, iirc) have also given some reads -"no point killing them off now" kill? not vote? -star no evil - noted -"unfamiliar with how to play without night abilities" - how do you know they don't have night abilities? -why would evil be more familiar with the matrix -only reason they gave for being inactive is busy/don't feel like saying anything -reason for inactivity in EoD is timezone -i won't be active during EoD either cuz of timezone, but i still talk more ???
You have a lot of words about me. I'll reply to the following points: Star unfamiliar with night actions -> if you've been reading, star mentions that they don't understand how to find mafia without night actions, only as a citizen. Evil more familiar with matrix -> evils are able to discern which column of the matrix the game is. This is speculative, but I think that they would also have already looked through that column's setups. To do this, you would need knowledge of the matrix.
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NOT Aeroyi
Most of the time
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:23 a.m.
why's nothing coming to mind then catsit
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Also when is eod
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@NOT Aeroyi we are waiting on you.
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In 2.5 hours
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ace! ★
Also when is eod
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:24 a.m.
these couple hours ig?
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why's nothing coming to mind then catsit
I've already commented on everything I've seen that I felt like commenting on
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Y'all we need to figure out who to vote instead of running in circles
11:24 a.m.
I won't be here for 1030-1045
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:25 a.m.
sharing reads would be helpful aeoliae bc u havent rly given any
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I am leaning on people who are active but no real contributions
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NOT Aeroyi
I've already commented on everything I've seen that I felt like commenting on
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:25 a.m.
anything on other players?
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Helvaria
You have a lot of words about me. I'll reply to the following points: Star unfamiliar with night actions -> if you've been reading, star mentions that they don't understand how to find mafia without night actions, only as a citizen. Evil more familiar with matrix -> evils are able to discern which column of the matrix the game is. This is speculative, but I think that they would also have already looked through that column's setups. To do this, you would need knowledge of the matrix.
what they are saying is kind of true Pepeeat
11:25 a.m.
but why are you continuously making a claim on me
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anything on other players?
I think you and Star are town
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Aeoliae, then who do you think we should vote?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
sharing reads would be helpful aeoliae bc u havent rly given any
Kinda how I operate tbh
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im unfamiliar with night actions because this is my first game with a lot of citizens
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Helvaria
Aeoliae, then who do you think we should vote?
The only person I'd say I want to still vote on is Zen although Zenith might be just as good
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Reason?
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im unfamiliar with night actions because this is my first game with a lot of citizens
If you're unfamiliar with how to use them, contact the host/your mentor (if you have one)
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i know how they work, but i was talking about citizens
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Helvaria
Reason?
Probably just a playstyle difference
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I sincerely regret not asking for a mentor ngl
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hihi am here now
11:28 a.m.
didn't realise today was ending so soon
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ace! ★
I sincerely regret not asking for a mentor ngl
i think they still are open for that
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uhh lemme read up ig
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i just meant, how are town citizens able to find out mafias
11:28 a.m.
since they cant do much besides use their way of talking to figure out
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Helvaria
You have a lot of words about me. I'll reply to the following points: Star unfamiliar with night actions -> if you've been reading, star mentions that they don't understand how to find mafia without night actions, only as a citizen. Evil more familiar with matrix -> evils are able to discern which column of the matrix the game is. This is speculative, but I think that they would also have already looked through that column's setups. To do this, you would need knowledge of the matrix.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:28 a.m.
thanks for ignoring every other points point one - i have read that, but anyone could say that they are unfamiliar with this game, many ppl have said that they are citizen, do you trust all of them? i do not understand your second point, can you elaborate on that or put it in more simpler terms?
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one more thing
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ace! ★
Y'all we need to figure out who to vote instead of running in circles
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:29 a.m.
fr im about to go to bed too
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why does she keep claiming on me
11:29 a.m.
PEPEhmmsus
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Zenith
I am leaning on people who are active but no real contributions
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:29 a.m.
name some
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why does she keep claiming on me
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:29 a.m.
HMMM
11:30 a.m.
they especially made a point for you too
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name some
Pixel for now
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:30 a.m.
not much mention about others either lmao
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Though they aren't too active but I am having trouble linking their messages with town
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NOT Aeroyi
I think you and Star are town
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:30 a.m.
lol why
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am i that easy to make a claim on concerned
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since they cant do much besides use their way of talking to figure out
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:32 a.m.
yeah i think mafia is supposed to be a social deducting (?) game and prs (to me) are just additional roles to make it more fun and probably a more balanced game?
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am i that easy to make a claim on concerned
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:33 a.m.
lemme claim you Catongue
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Though they aren't too active but I am having trouble linking their messages with town
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:33 a.m.
wdym by that?
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ace! ★
I sincerely regret not asking for a mentor ngl
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:33 a.m.
what can you do with a mentor?
11:34 a.m.
why is chat dead again ;-;
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Just help with confirming thoughts
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:34 a.m.
ooo they can do that?
11:34 a.m.
that would be nice
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
wdym by that?
Just a gut feeling but since I am not getting that same feeling from anyone else, I will keep that vote for now
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Like if they agree that seems right not objective truth
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Him being active now would have helped
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what can you do with a mentor?
have them talk about how tired they are and how they haven't read on thread
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:35 a.m.
catsit
11:38 a.m.
Helvaria seems to only be interested in interacting with aeoliae ngl meowdy
11:38 a.m.
just smth i noticed
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Wait now that you mentioned it
11:39 a.m.
It makes sense
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NOT Aeroyi
Kinda how I operate tbh
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:40 a.m.
no giving reads then? pls? catsit
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yeah i think mafia is supposed to be a social deducting (?) game and prs (to me) are just additional roles to make it more fun and probably a more balanced game?
oh, but i change my playstyle every game catto_ohmy
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:40 a.m.
not just who you think is town/not town but with reasons and stuff
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Was there any reason specified for this switch?
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lemme claim you Catongue
ofc! zoomd
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Was there any reason specified for this switch?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:41 a.m.
seems like a poke vote to me but idk
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ofc! zoomd
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:41 a.m.
omggg Sip
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Was there any reason specified for this switch?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:42 a.m.
oh yeah helvaria said aeoliae was good at mafia game but did not contribute much
11:42 a.m.
just remembered
11:43 a.m.
how do they know
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Maybe then it might be a coincidence
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oh, but i change my playstyle every game catto_ohmy
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:43 a.m.
what's your playstyle this time
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
what's your playstyle this time
straight up claiming FLUFFcry
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
Helvaria seems to only be interested in interacting with aeoliae ngl meowdy
help lmao
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
oh yeah helvaria said aeoliae was good at mafia game but did not contribute much
They aren't wrong. I am holding back.
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straight up claiming FLUFFcry
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:43 a.m.
lmaooo nice
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why does that make them look like they're kinda infatuated with them
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NOT Aeroyi
They aren't wrong. I am holding back.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:43 a.m.
why though
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Helvaria seems to only be interested in interacting with aeoliae ngl meowdy
The third one is consistent with helvaria's reason for voting
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but why would she vote aeoliae off
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The third one is consistent with helvaria's reason for voting
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:44 a.m.
my point: helvaria didn't bother to talk earlier helvaria is interested to talk in chat now that aeoliae is in chat
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I will have to iso helvaria
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but why would she vote aeoliae off
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:45 a.m.
one vote wouldn't make a big difference ig meowdy
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why though
i assume bc half the lobby has never played which is more of a reason tk give more to me
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ace! ★
i assume bc half the lobby has never played which is more of a reason tk give more to me
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:45 a.m.
wdym by "which is more of a reason tk give more to me"
11:45 a.m.
15 mins till midnight
11:45 a.m.
gtg soon
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:45 a.m.
sry catching a train rn LOL so ive been spotty
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:46 a.m.
no worries
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wdym by "which is more of a reason tk give more to me"
to make up for those who cant give too much? or lead more
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Both votes by helvaria seems to be poke votes
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Both votes by helvaria seems to be poke votes
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:47 a.m.
first one is def a poke vote
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But a poke vote in the beginning seems a bit odd
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
why though
I want to see everyone else's gameplay unfettered
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NOT Aeroyi
I want to see everyone else's gameplay unfettered
You must have some reads atleast
11:47 a.m.
Since you're observing
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Zenith
But a poke vote in the beginning seems a bit odd
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:47 a.m.
that's why i poke voted back 💀
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:47 a.m.
poke votes i think r p normal on day 1
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NOT Aeroyi
I want to see everyone else's gameplay unfettered
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:48 a.m.
when will you play fr
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Zenith
You must have some reads atleast
They're mostly likely incorrect or just weak
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Still any contributions are welcome
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when will you play fr
After I get my first aid certification
11:48 a.m.
~2 days
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Since we are all a bit unsure
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:48 a.m.
i mean i shared a schizo esque conspiracy theory i feel like its never a bad thing to share reads
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we love schizo posts
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NOT Aeroyi
They're mostly likely incorrect or just weak
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:49 a.m.
none of us know which reads could be right/wrong 💀
11:49 a.m.
we could just discuss
11:49 a.m.
or have a topic to go on maybe
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:49 a.m.
i still stand by my theory tho that was a paired interaction idc!
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:49 a.m.
like, having different views would be nice
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i still stand by my theory tho that was a paired interaction idc!
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:49 a.m.
did i miss smth
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:49 a.m.
oh lemme
11:50 a.m.
link
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NOT Aeroyi
~2 days
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:50 a.m.
so.. day 2?
11:50 a.m.
oh the zenith and pixel one
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?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ok so i feel more confident in this read now after the responses so im putting it here. this interaction SCREAMS that pixel/zenith are paired in some way in the game. the moment pixel comes in and asks a simple question zenith immediately warns him ab the prod which ig can be in good faith. but this is what bothers me ab the interaction
  • the use of the word town is BIZARRE. ive never heard of someone refer to random players that voted as “town”. it seems like a scum slip from my pov and not just a simple mistake.
  • zenith has never interacted with any other user like this other than pixelad. i read thru their posts and theyve never warned any other players of getting pushed. theyve only ever interacted and given advice/help to pixelad so far
  • “just a single prod so shouldnt harm much” reads as sooooo scummy to me like wdym it shouldnt harm much? if ur town, pushes r something that benefit the game, u want to talk about why people are getting pushed and what theyve said to solve them lastly and what encouraged me to make this post is the moment zenith responded and came online, pixelad suddenly appears literally a minute after them out of nowhere. everytime pixelad has appeared today its been right after zenith speaks in chat. this just screams paired interaction and im leaning towards it being scummy
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:50 a.m.
this
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:50 a.m.
oop now that u remind me of that
11:51 a.m.
zenith's been trying to distance themselves from pixel lol
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I really don't see much in it but some of your points are valid
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:51 a.m.
yupp
11:51 a.m.
and pixel did the same
11:51 a.m.
when i first posted it
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
and pixel did the same
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:51 a.m.
did they
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also wait afk
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:51 a.m.
oh
11:51 a.m.
yes
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also wait afk
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:51 a.m.
?
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did you like talk much at all yday?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:51 a.m.
yesterday?
11:51 a.m.
uhh lemme check
11:51 a.m.
i did talk
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i don't remeber aanything u said but today you've been like blasting so much info
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Did you read my clarification on that btw?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:52 a.m.
💀
11:52 a.m.
im pretty sure i sent at least 20msges to not get prodded
11:52 a.m.
oops
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Did you read my clarification on that btw?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:52 a.m.
yes but remind me?
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It was actually a test
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i don't remeber aanything u said but today you've been like blasting so much info
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:52 a.m.
ok mainly cuz there's more in chat
11:53 a.m.
and i've been replying to chat everytime i get online
11:53 a.m.
like
11:53 a.m.
i try to read chat and find msges i can reply to
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To see his reaction to getting prodded after a few players suggested that the mafia can claim citizens early to look towny
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:53 a.m.
just so happens that today there's more stuff that i can say
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To see his reaction to getting prodded after a few players suggested that the mafia can claim citizens early to look towny
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:53 a.m.
oh yeah we had that convo earlier kinda
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yeah we did
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:54 a.m.
i don't get the reaction to prodded thing though
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:54 a.m.
what bothers me tho is
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just so happens that today there's more stuff that i can say
fairs
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:54 a.m.
doesn't seem to give much info
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i don't get the reaction to prodded thing though
to be more active
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:54 a.m.
when i initially asked u why u did thay zenith
11:54 a.m.
u had diff reasoning
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:54 a.m.
yep lemme get it
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:54 a.m.
HMMM
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:55 a.m.
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Oh yeah
11:55 a.m.
It was because he was there
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:55 a.m.
"trying to be active when i can" -- pls be active more 😭
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I didn't want to let him know that I suspected him at first
11:55 a.m.
I wanted a more natural reaction
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Zenith
I didn't want to let him know that I suspected him at first
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:55 a.m.
they can always read chat
11:56 a.m.
anyways gn all
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Yeah but I kind of lean them already
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:56 a.m.
oh
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Good Night
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:56 a.m.
can't talk anymore tmr since its night time 🥲
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i don't get the reaction to prodded thing though
i admit that im talking just to meet the minimum for prods because last game i didn’t know it existed and also got outted (was mafia) kittyshy2
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:56 a.m.
what exacrly were u
11:56 a.m.
trying to test for that
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i admit that im talking just to meet the minimum for prods because last game i didn’t know it existed and also got outted (was mafia) kittyshy2
almost got outted*
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i admit that im talking just to meet the minimum for prods because last game i didn’t know it existed and also got outted (was mafia) kittyshy2
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:57 a.m.
oop- i just think that since i signed up for this game i shouldn't be too inactive yk
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I wanted to see if the prod was intentional or not
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
trying to test for that
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:57 a.m.
fr
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Like I said earlier
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I wanted to see if the prod was intentional or not
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:57 a.m.
what if it was
11:57 a.m.
doesn't rly prove much
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Some mafias can use prods to look genuinely inactive
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:57 a.m.
you have no issues with helvariah 💀
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Well two points
11:57 a.m.
First it was an early claim
11:58 a.m.
I wanted to test that theory
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And then the prod
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I mean he was active enough to post 20 messages if he wanted to
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 11:58 a.m.
idk if you're just new or have a lot of theories that don't rly prove anything 😭
11:59 a.m.
maybe i just don't get your point
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The reaction was indifference to that prod
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 11:59 a.m.
ok if thats the case, why interact w the person prodded and not the person (me) who prodded in the first place
11:59 a.m.
bc it seems like ud be trying to test me more than pixel if that ur logic no
11:59 a.m.
thats*
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I don't really understand you there
12:00 p.m.
You prodded him?
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Zenith
I wanted to see if the prod was intentional or not
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
i was the one who prodded them no
12:00 p.m.
yes
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
???
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I didn't pay attention to that tbh
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
im confused
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Are you a mod?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
wait wdym by prod like i threw
12:00 p.m.
sus on pixel
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
huh
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
first
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
isn't prod the warning
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
thats what im talking ab
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
for inactivity
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
LMFAO NVM
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Prod means that warning for inactivity
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
IM DUMB
12:00 p.m.
😭
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Lol it's alright
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 12:00 p.m.
i was mad confused
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You really got me wandering there
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WHAT DID UOU TBK M JR WAA
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 12:01 p.m.
lmfao
12:01 p.m.
anyways gn cya'll d2
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Good night afk
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-24 12:01 p.m.
ace coming in to contribute nothing again yay :D
12:01 p.m.
gngn
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ace! ★
WHAT DID UOU TBK M JR WAA
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-24 12:01 p.m.
speak human
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Sorry jesus
12:02 p.m.
I will (hopefully ) be more of use tmr tho. Bc I am going to be busy at 10.
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speak human
Oh u were asking me to translate. “what did you think it was"
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ace coming in to contribute nothing again yay :D
real tho-- sorry i was rlly busy w ma76
12:04 p.m.
guys
12:04 p.m.
we need really need to get an actuall agreement here
12:04 p.m.
what are yalls top 2? or 3? mafia
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There might be some recency bias involved but ace your game is matching your last one where were mafia
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uh huh
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Which, in fact, just ended
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sureee dude
12:08 p.m.
im not acting confused and seness and following blind reads for no reason
12:08 p.m.
senseless**
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Well you weren't there either (d1)
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i litterlay was??
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You weren't
12:09 p.m.
It's hard to sort it now but I am pretty sure
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Zenith
Well you weren't there either (d1)
*weren't following blind reads
12:10 p.m.
i had finals
12:10 p.m.
ehich i explained
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Well I don't suspect you enough time to vote for you
12:10 p.m.
I was just putting it there
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if you get me voted out i will bully you in soec chat
12:11 p.m.
Sure if you turn out town and I become the reason for your lynching
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worse. imagine im a pr
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A pr wouldn't make that statement
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yeah but i was also very loosly joking
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My sense of sarcasm is betraying me then lol
12:13 p.m.
Nw you're still null for me
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ace! ★
what are yalls top 2? or 3? mafia
still i need top 2 or 3
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I haven't looked much into it to form a top 3
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too 2 at least?
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I have a top 2 but that depends on the result of n1
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b/c if there is tracker it might help who they track
12:14 p.m.
depending on what people say
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Yeah that can help
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what does neighbor do?
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I need to check
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bc if we have tracker then we have them--- also mason
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Can be doctor
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yeah but ik what they do
12:16 p.m.
uh doctor and tracker is
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ace! ★
WHAT DID UOU TBK M JR WAA
very clear and in depth msg on our situation
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honestly smth k dont want
12:16 p.m.
bc if tracker tracks doc itll eb messy
12:16 p.m.
+ maf could lie
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I am curious how visiting town roles will act out in long games
12:17 p.m.
Since even honest claims can get overshadowed
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are we just going over what set ups we hope it is? wut
12:17 p.m.
sorry am also busy in another org where a lot is going on tn
12:17 p.m.
so i'm kinda having to jump in and out
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It's alright Zen Good luck with that
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also if its tracker its not double goon
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Zenith
It's alright Zen Good luck with that
tyyy tyy
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are we just going over what set ups we hope it is? wut
im going to go over setups.
12:23 p.m.
in genral
12:23 p.m.
but i have a very strong feeling tracker is here
12:23 p.m.
jusy gut ig?
12:24 p.m.
tracker
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so
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that's
12:24 p.m.
A or B only right
12:25 p.m.
if there is a tracker like u feel
12:25 p.m.
but also
12:25 p.m.
i don't
12:25 p.m.
really get ur feeling
12:25 p.m.
but maybe that's just me
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this js what it would be
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really get ur feeling
just liek how on a test you feel it might be C and it is; just gut feeling
12:27 p.m.
hm well
12:27 p.m.
we only have
12:27 p.m.
1 and a half hour right
12:27 p.m.
so we
12:27 p.m.
probs
12:27 p.m.
should
12:28 p.m.
do something abt finding a vote
12:29 p.m.
me personally i find Hel/Zenith suspisous
12:29 p.m.
not team tho bc idk yet
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…. Guys
12:41 p.m.
1 hour as 15 minuete left
12:41 p.m.
Can we please gets vote
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There are no clear reads yet
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ace! ★
me personally i find Hel/Zenith suspisous
You should vote for people you find suspicious Make sure to drop an explanation for later reference
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Zenith
There are no clear reads yet
There needs to be soon
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Zenith
You should vote for people you find suspicious Make sure to drop an explanation for later reference
For hel the image afk sent earlier For you the whole “prs claim” thing
12:44 p.m.
And just wantingclaims this early seems weird
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A random lynching from current suspects is still better than completely random lynching
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ace! ★
And just wantingclaims this early seems weird
Yeah it was a weird call
12:44 p.m.
A logical error from my end which I explained twice already
12:46 p.m.
i feel like
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hel
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could be a goody
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but they have like
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such an
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unproductive town mindset if so
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I feel the same
12:47 p.m.
But it has been pretty consistent tbh
12:48 p.m.
Words are matching actions but definitely nothing that can't be faked by a masterful mafia
12:48 p.m.
I wonder if masterful is even the right word to use there
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I think any good mafia cna he consist
12:49 p.m.
Ent
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Or any mafia
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Well since the town is probably lynching him anyway, we will know
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This doesn't feel right but.. Who knows?
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I can't defend or push hel rn
12:51 p.m.
And I am not confident in my vote either
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i wont vote just yet
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With the random lynching rule, might as well use your vote
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
so.. day 2?
Yes
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Don't feel pressured if a vote ends up in a mislynch rn
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Its d1 if we hit maf that's wild
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Yep that would be great
12:54 p.m.
There's a likelihood of it being in our current votes must be
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No "must be" there
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Hi im awake
1:01 p.m.
wsg
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Day ends in 1 hour
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also damn zenith really did get paired with pixel
1:09 p.m.
then voted them
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uhh
1:10 p.m.
but we don't have time huh
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Yeah well I kind of get why they paired me with him
1:10 p.m.
but why the vote
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I was testing him and I feel I don't feel I can vote anyone else
1:11 p.m.
If anything, that would be him
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Zenith
I was testing him and I feel I don't feel I can vote anyone else
What is this sentence lol
1:11 p.m.
I feel I don't feel
1:11 p.m.
Probably sums up my confusion
1:12 p.m.
It's still pretty much taking shots in the dark
1:12 p.m.
For some reason this game has not progressed as much as the hydra game d1
1:12 p.m.
Which is a surprise since that was an all citizen game
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Zenith
For some reason this game has not progressed as much as the hydra game d1
probs cuz this is newcomer que
1:14 p.m.
and people here are newer
1:14 p.m.
well
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except
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the people
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Oh yeah right
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who aren't
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sobs
1:14 p.m.
lmao
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That could be it
1:14 p.m.
I totally forgot it's a newcomer game lol
1:15 p.m.
hmm
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i act have no clue who i wanna vote tho
1:15 p.m.
like hel coudl just have
1:15 p.m.
bad mentality
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It won't be too bad for the town with hel out in that case
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zenith is a bit off to me in some things the say (no offense) but a lot of people read them as town lead so maybe am just weird
1:16 p.m.
and like
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ace is
1:16 p.m.
something
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Nah it's alright to think that tbh
1:16 p.m.
I have played a risky game till now
1:16 p.m.
hmm
1:19 p.m.
and pixel gives me good vibes
1:19 p.m.
but that might just be
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cuz
1:19 p.m.
i find them funny
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Could be
1:20 p.m.
I am like 55-45 mafia leaning them but that's the highest figure for me personally
1:20 p.m.
I really don't know what to read those reactions as
1:21 p.m.
That prod felt intentional
1:22 p.m.
yea i think i'm just gonna settle on voting zenith for now
1:22 p.m.
idk i think maybe hel is more logical tho
1:22 p.m.
but ur just
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off
1:22 p.m.
to meee
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Yeah I am definitely off lol
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sobs don't agree with me
1:23 p.m.
now i feel bad hjsh
1:23 p.m.
lmao
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Nah that's just I can see your point despite knowing lol
1:23 p.m.
Also I should probably change my name...
1:23 p.m.
we are kinda samey
1:23 p.m.
but it's fine
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People can confuse us
1:24 p.m.
I mean I can use Orion too
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i mean do you use any other names?
1:24 p.m.
oh funky
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That is like part of my username
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i mean tbh idt it should be too big of an issue
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I just hope it's not against the rules to change usernames midgame
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but fair faiirs
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Since I changed my pfp recently
1:25 p.m.
I will probably think about it later
1:25 p.m.
Don't want people to confuse me for someone else entirely
1:25 p.m.
only 30 mins left
1:25 p.m.
and we're still missing votes too
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@star and @Pixelad3 (sry)
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Pixel was here Should have voted
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well is easy to forget ngl
1:26 p.m.
Probably forgot it's eod
1:27 p.m.
yeah no
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when i first checked discord today
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i saw
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3 hours left
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and was shooketh
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lmao
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then i was busy with my org and work calls for most of the time
1:27 p.m.
so rip
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star
laga catto_ohmy
wut
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the announcement
1:29 p.m.
am so llost
1:29 p.m.
lol
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the 5 way tie
1:31 p.m.
yea
1:38 p.m.
22 min
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laga catto_ohmy
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-24 1:45 p.m.
BunnySip
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I could always vote zenith and make it a 6 way
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It would be two way then
1:49 p.m.
Nah
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I will be lynched
1:52 p.m.
Ur not zenew right
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nono i'm zenew
1:53 p.m.
also wait woah
1:53 p.m.
@Pixelad3
1:53 p.m.
?
1:53 p.m.
silent vote
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.. Never mind then;
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Zen
@Pixelad3
hi
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I was going to vote zenny boy anyway
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I didnt know who else to vote rlly
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ace! ★
I was going to vote zenny boy anyway
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In case you end up lynching me Here's my top 2
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I'm exited to see how gets murdered
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Pixel aeoliae
1:54 p.m.
Another game Another mislynch
1:54 p.m.
Good luck town
1:55 p.m.
now i feel bad
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Imagine he flips scum lol
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ig worst case
1:57 p.m.
we're at least probs not voting a pr off?
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Nah not a pr
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since they didn't like use that
1:57 p.m.
oof
1:58 p.m.
zenith
1:58 p.m.
from one zen to another
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I already dropped my top sls for now
1:58 p.m.
Good luck with this game Ze n
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Zenith
I already dropped my top sls for now
Im trying not to talk after you bc it made me look weird last time
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Zenith
Good luck with this game Ze n
tyy and am sorri 😭
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Which is dumb bc those were all coincidences
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Yeah sure valid btw
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Zen
tyy and am sorri 😭
It's alright
1:59 p.m.
As long as the town wins
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-24 2:00 p.m.
EOD
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-25 12:53 a.m.
SOD 2
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-06-25 12:54 a.m.
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Morning everyone!
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Spicy
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Does anyone know what the message for doctor visiting would be?
2:03 p.m.
Cuz I was visited
2:03 p.m.
Just god knows who.!
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-25 2:05 p.m.
hi im so sorry i was out in nyc and missed the last like hour LOL
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Its all good
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ace! ★
Cuz I was visited
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-25 2:10 p.m.
cap
2:11 p.m.
u dont get messages if u were visited, just confirmed with mods
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I was tho!
2:11 p.m.
I tracked hel
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-25 2:11 p.m.
why r u claiming that😭
2:11 p.m.
It didn't say if they were neighbor /town
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So
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They are either doc
2:12 p.m.
Or a rolecop who'd dinr kill me
2:12 p.m.
Bc if I was jailkeeper it wouldn't work
2:12 p.m.
Same w roleblocker
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So there's a huge chance I'm dying tonight either way
2:13 p.m.
If I don't claim they might be role cop
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And I dktn want to take that chance
2:14 p.m.
+ I said that I suspect them so why would they EVER heal me
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ace! ★
If I don't claim they might be role cop
now since i did killing me would only make them and their team look worse. if i die it clears hel, and the person thst i cant think of off the top of my head people think is their partner.
2:18 p.m.
... does that ramble make any sense
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-25 2:18 p.m.
couldnt have hel also j been the mafia that tried to kill u and u got docced by someone else
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that cpuld also be it
2:20 p.m.
So they cluld be Maf; and someone doctored me. or they could be Rc who investigated but didnt killz or ; neigbor
2:22 p.m.
also if its the second i dont see a reason to not proetect me so i can track another person before deathz
2:22 p.m.
but since it worked --- like i said; we Deffinatly have a rolecop
2:25 p.m.
woudl hel be put best bote for now
2:25 p.m.
considering this
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hold up what
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OK HI HELLO
3:00 p.m.
Uhhh for the record I voted venith bc what camryn and zen were saying were making me heavily doubt my town read for him
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ace! ★
considering this
Whag
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hello
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Well this is depressing
6:49 p.m.
@ace! ★ have you ever wondered why there were no kills last night?
6:50 p.m.
Yep, it's me, the doctor, congratulations, you found me! 🎉
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ace! ★
+ I said that I suspect them so why would they EVER heal me
Because your softing was just soooo obvious. At the start of day, you immediately said something about checking people. Then, started setup speculating, saying that you were pretty sure tracker is here.
6:53 p.m.
Anyways, since you've already outed yourself, I suppose there's no harm in saying this anymore.
6:53 p.m.
I was quite determined that star was not evil yesterday because star setup speculation made 0 sense, and we now know that it's completely wrong.
6:53 p.m.
I knew this yesterday, I'm sure you did too.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-25 6:55 p.m.
ftr i forgot to change my vote bc i was traveling to nyc but i did intend to
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Sorry but who healed who what's going on with the lurcher
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I healed ace
7:29 p.m.
And in repayment, my role was revealed and they think I'm mafia 😔
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NOT Aeroyi
Sorry but who healed who what's going on with the lurcher
What's the lurcher
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Helvaria
What's the lurcher
Remove the lurcher hype strats???
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Helvaria
And in repayment, my role was revealed and they think I'm mafia 😔
in so sorry <\3 B out in my defense—- I already thought you were maf
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Helvaria
I was quite determined that star was not evil yesterday because star setup speculation made 0 sense, and we now know that it's completely wrong.
oopies
8:57 p.m.
that means we are at 1 goon and 1 roleblocker
9:01 p.m.
i had the wrong idea so i had to ask laga
9:01 p.m.
froggiesip
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star
that means we are at 1 goon and 1 roleblocker
i meant rolecop not blocker
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Anyways, while I wasn't awake yesterday, you guys went and voted zenith, who I specifically said not to vote.
9:05 p.m.
This is very disappointing.
9:05 p.m.
I think I should make myself clearer,
9:06 p.m.
Out of 3 - Aeoliae, zenew, and pixel (ace is not here anymore for obvious reasons), I am certain that at least 1, likely 2, are evil. We should lynch one of these 3 today.
9:07 p.m.
So, I have a task for you 3, @NOT Aeroyi @Zen @Pixelad3 , tell me which of the other 2 members pinged you think is the best vote today.
9:07 p.m.
Detailed reasons are recommended
9:08 p.m.
I look forward to your responses.
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Helvaria
Out of 3 - Aeoliae, zenew, and pixel (ace is not here anymore for obvious reasons), I am certain that at least 1, likely 2, are evil. We should lynch one of these 3 today.
Explain how you have determined this conclusion and then maybe I'll play your game
9:11 p.m.
Everyone else is town
9:11 p.m.
We have 2 confirmed pr - me, ace
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Helvaria
Everyone else is town
huh?
9:13 p.m.
there are 8 players
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Helvaria
We have 2 confirmed pr - me, ace
How are you two confirmed
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2 of the most townie individuals - Camryn, afk, why would an evil try to revive a dead chat?
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Bc I tracked hel
9:13 p.m.
And hell doctored me
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And 1 person who has no clue what's going on - star
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elaborate
9:13 p.m.
but
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I am certain, in you 3, at least one is evil, probably 2.
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Helvaria
And 1 person who has no clue what's going on - star
I don't do purity but they do genuinely seem to be upset when they do something wrong generally
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Helvaria
I am certain, in you 3, at least one is evil, probably 2.
What if I feel that all three of us are town and that there's a decent chance that the PRs are fake?
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Is there anyone counter claiming?
9:16 p.m.
Or are you attempting to?
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pl + 1
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I'm going to consider what's going on first
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I think I was pretty clear alld ay I had some sort of pr
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Helvaria
So, I have a task for you 3, @NOT Aeroyi @Zen @Pixelad3 , tell me which of the other 2 members pinged you think is the best vote today.
Hm
9:18 p.m.
Zen I guess??
9:18 p.m.
Idk
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Reasons are recommended.
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Idk theyre js the one I trust the least but thats just by like. 1%
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idk my head hurts
9:23 p.m.
dehydrrated
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also one more thing i do wanna note
9:23 p.m.
before zenith got lynched
9:23 p.m.
he suspected that pixel and aeoliae was his top 2
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why is everyone suspecting me-
9:26 p.m.
oh one more thing
9:27 p.m.
you noted that aeoliae might be a pr
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Pixelad3
Aeoliae - Town Maybe??? IDK they could have a PR Zenith - Also Town, but I feel slightly more sure abt it Zenew - No clue Helvaria - Also no clue (edited)
over here
9:29 p.m.
one more funny thing
9:30 p.m.
you claimed that zenith might also be town, but you voted him for lynch yesterday
9:31 p.m.
plus zen voted too
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star
you claimed that zenith might also be town, but you voted him for lynch yesterday
Again what zen and camryn were saying were starting to make me doubt my town read for him
1:09 a.m.
And I honestly had no clue who else to vote
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its 10 pm I need to sleep
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but it makes me concerned because camryn did not vote zenith
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Pixelad3
its 10 pm I need to sleep
good night
1:10 a.m.
sleep well
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nite
1:10 a.m.
I’ll talk more tmrw
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 5:39 a.m.
HMMM
5:40 a.m.
im literally just speechless
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Helvaria
Because your softing was just soooo obvious. At the start of day, you immediately said something about checking people. Then, started setup speculating, saying that you were pretty sure tracker is here.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 5:42 a.m.
its not even softing anymore
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Good to see you're here afk.
6:05 a.m.
Yeah it was so funny to watch
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ace! ★
but i have a very strong feeling tracker is here
Just a strong feeling
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Helvaria
So, I have a task for you 3, @NOT Aeroyi @Zen @Pixelad3 , tell me which of the other 2 members pinged you think is the best vote today.
@Zen it would be nice if you responded to this.
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NOT Aeroyi
I'm going to consider what's going on first
It's been nearly 10 hours. Are you done considering?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 7:21 a.m.
💀
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 7:29 a.m.
main posts by Pixelad3 (ignore me i just want to skip all the fluff posts)
7:32 a.m.
what camryn said on zenith: -zenith/pixelad3 interaction (pixel has no reason to vote on zenith for this) -encouraging pr claims
7:34 a.m.
zen: -agreed on zenith/pixelad3 (?) -"zenith is a bit off to me in some things"
7:40 a.m.
pixel showed up 1 hour before d1 ended and the only other ppl who were in chat in that hour were ace zen zenith and star star did not vote - only showed up to say there's a 5 way tie then disappeared zenith had their vote on pixel for some time since then zen voted zenith first followed by pixel - "silent vote" then ace
7:41 a.m.
catsit
7:47 a.m.
i don't find anything important or worth noting from zen other than they seem to only have zenith as a suspect ig? their comments on others seem to not have mentioned suspecting anyone other than zenith, idk
7:51 a.m.
camryn said she was busy - no time to vote or smth along the lines camryn voted on star around 24 hours before d1 ended (if im not wrong) camryn's read on zenith/pixel was 9 hours after voting star that leaves.. 13 hours to change votes?
7:51 a.m.
idk if my maths was correct
7:51 a.m.
but that's still plenty of time
7:52 a.m.
and cabbate had the time to ask zenith about their initial response
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ftr i forgot to change my vote bc i was traveling to nyc but i did intend to
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 7:54 a.m.
okok just saw this
7:58 a.m.
nothing much to say on camryn rn other than some small stuff like how they interacted with ace
7:59 a.m.
just waiting on aeoliae to throw their reads in since its d2 💀
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I also think @camryn (✿◠‿◠) should contribute their reads, or other relevant insights. (Or conspiracy theories)
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 9:47 a.m.
hihi
9:47 a.m.
i mean i
9:47 a.m.
drank the night before
9:47 a.m.
and then i went to nyc w a friend the day after
9:47 a.m.
im not lying ab being busy irl thats lame
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😭
9:48 a.m.
and why would i push so hard for something i knew was wrong if i was scum i legit believed what i was saying
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 10:16 a.m.
yeye dw about it don't cryyy
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
im not lying ab being busy irl thats lame
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 10:20 a.m.
i did see ur msges about drinking and going to nyc but idk when u meant by "last night" cuz of timezones so i kind of just ignored that; for the nyc part its like ur busy irl so its pretty easy to forget to switch votes
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 10:21 a.m.
uhhh from like 12 am est - 3 am est i drank
10:21 a.m.
woke up at 11 am got on train at 12 pm got in nyc at 1 pm
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
yeye dw about it don't cryyy
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 10:22 a.m.
IM CRYING IM SOBBING
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
IM CRYING IM SOBBING
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 10:23 a.m.
noooo meowdy
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 10:24 a.m.
idk i j genuinely had the wrong read there but i wanted to push something bc no one was saying anything at the time and from the info i had the interaction between zenith and pixel looked suspicious
10:25 a.m.
but ig zenith j typed strangely 😭
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
woke up at 11 am got on train at 12 pm got in nyc at 1 pm
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 10:25 a.m.
what time is EOD/SOD for you?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 10:25 a.m.
2 pm
10:25 a.m.
est
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 10:25 a.m.
ohh
10:25 a.m.
okok that makes it easier for me to convert time
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 10:26 a.m.
i j was unfortunately rly busy during that eod
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
camryn said she was busy - no time to vote or smth along the lines camryn voted on star around 24 hours before d1 ended (if im not wrong) camryn's read on zenith/pixel was 9 hours after voting star that leaves.. 13 hours to change votes?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 10:29 a.m.
ight so updates on this is --> after reading zenith/pixel --> sleep --> woke up near eod --> was busy --> no votes
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 10:30 a.m.
ya i like fully intended to change my vote i said it in the chat but deadass forgot
10:30 a.m.
i mean i probs woulda voted zenith which was wrong anyways💀
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
idk i j genuinely had the wrong read there but i wanted to push something bc no one was saying anything at the time and from the info i had the interaction between zenith and pixel looked suspicious
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 10:32 a.m.
yeah, kind of hard to make a lot of reads especially d1 plus maf probably laid low (maybe jumped on zenith's wagon at eod if they were present?)
10:32 a.m.
just a random thought
10:35 a.m.
@NOT Aeroyi
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@Zen @NOT Aeroyi Stalling does not help your case.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-26 11:29 a.m.
i have no life catsit
11:35 a.m.
don't think we got much progress today 🥲
11:35 a.m.
gonna go sleep soon
1:02 p.m.
i said i didnt vote because i had no suspicions yet
1:26 p.m.
been busyy all day
1:26 p.m.
lemme read up asap
1:27 p.m.
we still have another 24hrs right?
1:27 p.m.
@Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
1:32 p.m.
tyty
1:32 p.m.
okay
1:32 p.m.
but
1:32 p.m.
so
1:32 p.m.
ace claimed tracker
1:32 p.m.
kinda
1:33 p.m.
and then saw hel visit them?
1:35 p.m.
okay wait but i'm still confused how hel is confirmed
1:36 p.m.
oh well no matter what we never vote hel here cuz of circumstances
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Helvaria
So, I have a task for you 3, @NOT Aeroyi @Zen @Pixelad3 , tell me which of the other 2 members pinged you think is the best vote today.
for this tho i do see ur logic hel cuz everyone else does seem safe so even if ur evil there is probs 1 evil between us 3?
1:40 p.m.
bleh idk which one tho
1:41 p.m.
if you didnt see
1:41 p.m.
she claimed doc
1:41 p.m.
but
1:42 p.m.
wouldn't the mafia killing also get tracked back to ace?
1:42 p.m.
and if they aren't doc then real doc wouldn't wanna claim either
1:42 p.m.
cuz
1:42 p.m.
u know
1:42 p.m.
then they're outed
1:43 p.m.
cuz then hel trades 2f1 instead of 1f1
1:43 p.m.
but either way tho
1:43 p.m.
idt we'd ever vote hel cuz of the chance they are doc
1:43 p.m.
right?
1:44 p.m.
better to be safe abt ti
1:45 p.m.
oh right i got distracted
1:45 p.m.
but
1:45 p.m.
the the
1:46 p.m.
of pixel or aeoliae
1:47 p.m.
i don't really have much reason to suspect one over the other
1:47 p.m.
but pixel to me
1:47 p.m.
seems
1:47 p.m.
like an awkward but real town
1:48 p.m.
so yeah less reason to vote against aeo and more just i don't think pixel is the right vote at least
1:48 p.m.
anyways
1:48 p.m.
that's enough talking to myself
1:48 p.m.
sorry for the bits of inactivity y'all
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hi hi hi
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Zen
sorry for the bits of inactivity y'all
Same here
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I got a server to run and VA work to do
2:31 p.m.
I am trying to be active when I can tho
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I'm going to get prodded
2:49 p.m.
ugh
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ugh
2:55 p.m.
okayy
2:55 p.m.
time to tryhard
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i was peacefully sleeping yesterday
2:55 p.m.
Sleep
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 3:03 p.m.
been at work ftr!
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NOT Aeroyi
time to tryhard
yupp
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Let's start from the start
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Zenith
To get this game going, let's start off by claiming roles to spot inconsistencies. I am town citizen.
Unfortunate that this slot was town
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Pixelad3
I am also a town citizen
lack of hesitance to claim is probably >rand wolf (more likely wolf)
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ace! ★
twinsies!!
Probably not w/w but this is more likely someone copying someone else's actions because they are unsure how to act/are without guidance. >Rand town
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star
im also a town citizen
I'm not going to continue reading into the vanilla (citizen) claims
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ace! ★
Or someone has a pr and is lying about being citizen for the sake of survival and being usful
yes that is a possibility and
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ace! ★
I am so not talking about my self rn!!
This is a blatant PR soft
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star
we cant really check if we are regular citizens?
??? Off-putting
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Zenith
It is revealed in private channel
Oh
3:20 p.m.
Star wolfslipped
3:20 p.m.
Okay that's 1/2 caught
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NOT Aeroyi
lack of hesitance to claim is probably >rand wolf (more likely wolf)
No I’m just gullible
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Fairly certain Star wolf
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ugh
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How do I vote again
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ill vite every star in the sky so ik ill be right
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are they putting it on me to get my lynched
3:21 p.m.
then kill doc and tracker
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ace! ★
If someones tracker they can track down of the of the misc ones or one of the odd ones out
Why would they do that though
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then mafia wins
3:21 p.m.
aworryPartyTime
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Yes, you really did
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/ vote player:[username]
3:21 p.m.
Thats how
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um
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Um
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Uummmm
3:22 p.m.
yeah
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I’ll vote star too
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(because it's a flawed srategy)
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thank u
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Yes
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i think mafia on their move now
3:22 p.m.
aworryPartyTime
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uh huh
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NOT Aeroyi
How do I vote again
/ vote player:[username]
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in #ne70-vote
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they getting accused so now they are voting me off
3:23 p.m.
because im the most sus apparently
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star
they getting accused so now they are voting me off
I'm getting to you
3:23 p.m.
but I think you perspective slipped on d1
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star
they getting accused so now they are voting me off
Whos getting accused?
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good play
3:24 p.m.
please do lynch me
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I'll get to more evidence later
3:25 p.m.
trying not to confbias though
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why do you want to be lynched so bad
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because im lazy to read to make assumptions
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
im town citizen btw but legit everyone is gonna be claiming that so it doesnt rly glean us any info
Wait whattttt???????
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Youve asked us to lynch you on several occasions
3:25 p.m.
(iirc)
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star
because im lazy to read to make assumptions
Same but at least I try somewhat
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star
how are we supposed to figure out whose mafia if we are normal citizen
this is worded weirdly as well
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
yea i j think rn we need to follow along w chat and keep live discussion going
I like the pushing for + activity that's going on here
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ya but us as town NOT TALKING is even worse for us winning like we cant form reads if convos dont happen LOL
THANK YOU
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NOT Aeroyi
this is worded weirdly as well
i mean how do we get evidence if we are plain town citizens
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
yuh legit everyone j claims vt here LOL like its a fruitless endeavor
Makes sense tbh
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someone said to guess
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Zenith
Maybe we can try this with one mafia down
How does that... even remotely work
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star
i think we also have to vote someone off tonight
Yes, that's how the game works
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more reasons to suspect aeoliae
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i mean ill just throw out a read, p sure zenith is town. i dont necessarily agree w some of their ideas/gameplan but their ideas seem to stem from lack of experience and the way they r pushing them j reads as pure town
tbh I'm feeling this now unfortunately
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
the days start at 2am for me so i won't be talking for the first 8-18 hours(ish) after a day starts im not sure
Oh 💀
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I want to say this is +wolf
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I wouldn't since you said it but okay
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They aren't living very long that's for sure
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 3:29 p.m.
jesus cheist i opened my phome to 8 pings
3:29 p.m.
😭
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uh derpclear attempt?
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NOT Aeroyi
I wouldn't since you said it but okay
yeah; i know tyoicallg if im mafia i want to be the first to claim.
3:29 p.m.
not second
3:29 p.m.
or 3rd
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
jesus cheist i opened my phome to 8 pings
aeoliae is back reading after getting suspected
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bc peole tend to expect last most if maf
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yeah it is kinda confusing but I think it's just standard matrix semi-open
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NOT Aeroyi
uh derpclear attempt?
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-26 3:30 p.m.
ya this is weird LOL
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healing is protecting right
3:30 p.m.
it's like stopping kills and all that
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shouldnt you know?
3:30 p.m.
you’re a pro anyways?
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idk why I brought this up because it just seems so... blatant to be that way
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Huh? TMI?
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what even is 1c or 2c
3:31 p.m.
ph no
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Yeah no the mafia is just star and probably the other person that starts with an H
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not at sll
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this seems fake
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NOT Aeroyi
Yeah no the mafia is just star and probably the other person that starts with an H
didnt hel claim doc
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i already said
3:31 p.m.
lynch if wanted
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but when i get lynched and my rolecard is in place
3:32 p.m.
youll know whose lying
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ace! ★
didnt hel claim doc
i mesn they coudlve lied and someoen esle be doc or be role cop
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star
shouldnt you know?
I play on different sites. Healers/protection roles are refered to as doctors/healers/lurchers depending on where you go
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ace! ★
i mesn they coudlve lied and someoen esle be doc or be role cop
I wouldn't put it past them. They seem quite skilled and I have a huge respect for their play regardless of their alignment
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ace! ★
i mesn they coudlve lied and someoen esle be doc or be role cop
bc i didnr get a neighbor note. so either they are doc, maf , ans soemoen else healed , or rc
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star
but when i get lynched and my rolecard is in place
If you like getting lynched so much just vote urself lmao
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makes sense tbh
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Pixelad3
If you like getting lynched so much just vote urself lmao
why
3:35 p.m.
you’re scared they might not believe im mafia?
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strange conclusion
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They have, although I feel that they partially are just starved for interactions
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what's the org community
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ace! ★
bc i didnr get a neighbor note. so either they are doc, maf , ans soemoen else healed , or rc
if i die tonight its probably hel. or someone trying to make it look liek them. bc if they were rc ans investigated me foudn orh im tracker and plan to kill me tonight. + if i was mafia id kill the doctor firsts o all my kills go thru
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This is a very strange reaction and we do see more of that today
3:37 p.m.
Zenith Town Camryn Townlock Ace Townlock AFK Townlean Zenew
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what does town lock mean
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this is locktown btw
3:39 p.m.
zenith already got lynched
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reads frustrated town
3:40 p.m.
Pixelad3, Star and Zen probably contains 2 wolves
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yeah townlock
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NOT Aeroyi
reads frustrated town
corct
3:41 p.m.
I was in fact frsutrated
3:41 p.m.
evil keyboard
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star
zenith already got lynched
zenew and zenith are different players
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Zen/Star or Zen/Pixelad or Star/Helvaria
3:43 p.m.
Game solved
3:44 p.m.
thats so funny
3:44 p.m.
you included pixelad
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NOT Aeroyi
Oh
sobs why are none of these replies working
4:01 p.m.
i can't see what ur replying to
4:01 p.m.
is there a way to fix it
4:01 p.m.
or
4:01 p.m.
no
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NOT Aeroyi
what's the org community
uhh is people who play like survivor or BB or whatever online via discord? is not really relevant to this game was just a fun convo
4:05 p.m.
aeo went crazy
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they think me and you are mafia
4:05 p.m.
lol
4:05 p.m.
how? idk
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funky funky
4:06 p.m.
i mean u might be
4:06 p.m.
but
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they also said you and pixelad too
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yeah
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ya i saws dw
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I mean what's your solve again
4:06 p.m.
just to remind us
4:06 p.m.
where's your solve?
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if it were me
4:06 p.m.
i would say aeoliae is mafia
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and who's my partner
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and they are doing this to skip the vote
4:07 p.m.
because this way one town is launched
4:07 p.m.
and they could kill another one tonight
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NOT Aeroyi
and who's my partner
not sure
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I mean your solve is incomplete
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it does not hinge on factual evidence
4:07 p.m.
so it is not supported, and therefore is bad
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funny how you started backreading after getting prodded along with pixelad
4:08 p.m.
yeah then dont read it
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i already said, im the most suspicious out of all right now
4:08 p.m.
thats why the mafia could convince town to lynch me
4:09 p.m.
but youll know im not lying when 24 hours is over
4:09 p.m.
aworryPartyTime
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star
i already said, im the most suspicious out of all right now
If you are town it would really help if you did not flop like a fish and pout about being voted
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i never pouted
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If you are mafia it's probably just guilty conscious driving your actions
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it might sound like it
4:09 p.m.
okay then vote me off
4:09 p.m.
smh
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i never pouted
you did tbh you were kind of melodramatic that's what I mean
4:10 p.m.
like
4:10 p.m.
if you are town, you should try to defend yourself
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oh btw i said that because she got the wrong idea
4:10 p.m.
LOL
4:10 p.m.
defend myself
4:10 p.m.
you know what
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if you are town, you are helping achieve your wincon by not dying because you know you are town
4:10 p.m.
right
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i should get out of this game too
4:10 p.m.
thanks for letting me know froggieheart
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i should get out of this game too
?
4:11 p.m.
you're self voting
4:11 p.m.
smh
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you said it yourself
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I used to be a self voter
4:11 p.m.
it's literally pointless
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yeah but apparently im suspicious and ‘not’ of use here
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When did I say that?
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NOT Aeroyi
if you are town, you should try to defend yourself
this
4:12 p.m.
but anyways froggiesip
4:12 p.m.
im not even pouting which is funny
4:12 p.m.
also i self vote because i want to
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star
this
I am trying to encourage you to help the town if you are town by trying to avoid your own death. That is not telling you that you are useless or are less valuable than other players
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star you are kinda being
4:13 p.m.
like
4:13 p.m.
jester?
4:13 p.m.
HMM
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not that helpful
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yeah so thats why i wanna be lynched
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but i know it's probs just cuz frustrated town
4:14 p.m.
which is why i'd rather vote aeo
4:14 p.m.
who might just be smart af maf
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Zen
which is why i'd rather vote aeo
huh what?
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whenever i do give evidence, yall believe im mafia
4:14 p.m.
and whenever i get the wrong idea i get more sussed
4:14 p.m.
plus im not an info role
4:14 p.m.
and i dont know how yall play
4:14 p.m.
Froggie_Yes
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NOT Aeroyi
huh what?
idk i'm bad at the game and i know you're like way better than me
4:14 p.m.
but i feel like
4:14 p.m.
when even i can tell
4:14 p.m.
star is just
4:14 p.m.
frustrated towny
4:15 p.m.
over maf
4:15 p.m.
and ur still pushing them
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Zen
but i know it's probs just cuz frustrated town
I do somewhat agree but if they are unwilling to even try to defend themselves I will have no problems voting them out It's something that's basically "If you see unacceptable behavior that you do not want to see again, punish it"
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it just looks more like
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yeah because apparently ive been doubted since day 1
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ur doing it to make this an easy vote
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also one more thing i wanna point out
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self voting is not only pitiful but also it makes other people not care about defending you. What's the point of defending a slot that doesn't even want to defend themselves
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i got ignored the other day so i didnt get voted out
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NOT Aeroyi
I do somewhat agree but if they are unwilling to even try to defend themselves I will have no problems voting them out It's something that's basically "If you see unacceptable behavior that you do not want to see again, punish it"
ig but to ruin our game chances more by throw voting the thrower
4:15 p.m.
is kinda
4:15 p.m.
just bad no?
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now they are pushing it on me
4:16 p.m.
froggiesip
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i got ignored the other day so i didnt get voted out
Elaborate?
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because apparently i got ‘town-leaned’ and everything
4:16 p.m.
i dont know how zenith got voted off
4:16 p.m.
because i didnt plan on voting
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can you provide message links
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I am trying to understand your perspective
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all im assuming is that mafia went with whoever
4:17 p.m.
not me
4:17 p.m.
because if i got lynched day 1
4:17 p.m.
they wouldnt have a back up for day w
4:17 p.m.
2
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Explain more?
4:18 p.m.
I don't really understand what you're trying to say here
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no further explanation needed
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I don't understand that "If I got lynched day 1 then wouldn't have a backup for day [2]" argument?
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well someone elsemiht
4:19 p.m.
moght
4:19 p.m.
might
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Could you repeat what you are trying to say again more clearly
4:19 p.m.
that's literally all I'm asking you to do
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since day 1 ive been under suspension, but somehow zenith got voted off
4:20 p.m.
starting day 2 ive still been under suspension
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wait
4:20 p.m.
being sussed
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Nice that this chat has some activity now. I will get back to you guys in approximately 12 hours.
7:36 p.m.
However I do have some stuff to say first.
7:38 p.m.
@NOT Aeroyi I'm surprised why you still think I'm not the doctor. If I really wasn't, then someone should have a pretty strong agenda against me.
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You're the doctor lol
7:39 p.m.
makes sense
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Yes. Then why would you put me as possible evil?
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Helvaria
Yes. Then why would you put me as possible evil?
Because I didn't see/remember that you claimed doctor?
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NOT Aeroyi
I wouldn't put it past them. They seem quite skilled and I have a huge respect for their play regardless of their alignment
At this point, you knew.
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NOT Aeroyi
Zen/Star or Zen/Pixelad or Star/Helvaria
But you still placed me here?
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i thought you did claim doctor?
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10 minute difference. Memory wiped.
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but they all said you didnt
8:02 p.m.
@Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 does the day end in 10ish hours?
8:02 p.m.
or 20 something
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-26 8:03 p.m.
18ish and you can see a continually updated time in this post https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857208538763377/1255220983770386454
8:04 p.m.
tysm froggieheart
8:04 p.m.
sorry, i didnt see that was there
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-26 8:04 p.m.
its cool Panda_Loves_Hearts_Likes
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so we still have 18 hours tt_clapCat_OwO
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Helvaria
At this point, you knew.
How would you know if I knew?
8:55 p.m.
You can't say that "you already knew"
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Helvaria
But you still placed me here?
Yes
8:56 p.m.
I don't think I have particularily concerned myself with mechanics yet
8:58 p.m.
At a baseline, I would find your play scummy
8:58 p.m.
regardless of if you had claimed
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well one more thing
9:01 p.m.
i went to look at the matrix
9:02 p.m.
if we are heading for the “tracker+doctor”
9:02 p.m.
it would mean we have a goon and rolecop
9:02 p.m.
the rolecop would have the ability to see someone’s role
9:02 p.m.
which means they could claim pr or town while blaming it on another player
9:02 p.m.
as they know their role
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which means they could claim pr or town while blaming it on another player
Explain? If you're saying the rolecop can claim what their results are to eliminate a PR, then what happens when the PR counterclaims? It's suboptimal play at best and that's not even happening
9:24 p.m.
or they could just kill them off tonight
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NOT Aeroyi
Explain? If you're saying the rolecop can claim what their results are to eliminate a PR, then what happens when the PR counterclaims? It's suboptimal play at best and that's not even happening
thats why they try to find ones that talk less or others
9:25 p.m.
they dont have to claim what the results say
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NOT Aeroyi
How would you know if I knew?
But you clearly replied to a post saying that I claimed doctor?
9:32 p.m.
Nothing significant in terms of claims have changed since the start of today.
9:42 p.m.
wdym
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Aeoliae replied to ace saying I claimed doctor
9:42 p.m.
Meaning that they know I claimed doctor
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also im pretty confused
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But right after they put me in possible evil list
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aeoliae was quiet over the first day
9:43 p.m.
now they are replying to everything
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And when I asked about it, Aeoliae is saying they didn't know I was doctor when writing that list
9:44 p.m.
This means for some reason they had a sudden change of heart about my status between writing that list and when I questioned it
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makes sense
Because now, me being the doctor "makes sense"
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Helvaria
But right after they put me in possible evil list
oh
9:45 p.m.
must have saw someone’s message
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but also adding on to your claim
9:46 p.m.
remember before zenith got launched?
9:49 p.m.
The votes were decided at the last minute by pixel, zen and ace
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for that vote tho
9:53 p.m.
i kinda just wanted to express my opinion with a vote
9:54 p.m.
and then people kindaa just jumped on it
9:54 p.m.
was funky
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Helvaria
But right after they put me in possible evil list
they might just think u can be evil fake claiming doc no?
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But they are suddenly very sure now?
9:56 p.m.
Also, at that point, either almost everyone or everyone had spoken. If I'm not the doctor, the real doctor should have counter-claimed already, or have a "subtle" strong agenda against me.
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Helvaria
The votes were decided at the last minute by pixel, zen and ace
and zenith said his top two where aeoliae and pixel
10:06 p.m.
were
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Helvaria
Also, at that point, either almost everyone or everyone had spoken. If I'm not the doctor, the real doctor should have counter-claimed already, or have a "subtle" strong agenda against me.
i mean idt doc should claim if you aren't doc no?
10:06 p.m.
cuz then ur mafia who traded 2 for 1 with both PR
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Zen
they might just think u can be evil fake claiming doc no?
right
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instead of you being outed while they can be safe
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and aeoliae and pixel started talking more after zenith got launched
10:07 p.m.
dont know if its because of the prod though
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thats why im confused
10:08 p.m.
whats the reasoning behind all that
10:10 p.m.
also did mafia attack last night
10:10 p.m.
or was rolecop on the move
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Zen
i mean idt doc should claim if you aren't doc no?
They shouldn't claim, but they should at least question my authenticity.
10:12 p.m.
They would at least subtly push for me to go out, as I am, in their eyes, a "confirmed evil".
10:12 p.m.
No such thing has happened.
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Helvaria
No such thing has happened.
isn't that literally what is happening tho
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star
also did mafia attack last night
Mafia was smart enough to pickup on ace's softing. I did as well. We both targeted ace. Hence no kill occured.
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how could ace only said one visited
10:14 p.m.
how come*
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Zen
isn't that literally what is happening tho
yet aeoliae is voting star and not me?
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They should commit better to the act, in my opinion.
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the reason for that is easy
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Helvaria
yet aeoliae is voting star and not me?
wouldn't that be too obvious?
10:15 p.m.
the same as outing no?
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The rolecop dosen't matter. At this point, they are just a goon.
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im the easiest person to blame as of now
10:15 p.m.
if at least 1 town citizen gets voted out
10:16 p.m.
mafia gets to kill tonight
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Zen
wouldn't that be too obvious?
No, I don't think so. I've pretty much been the most sketchy member since d1. It should be simple to prepare a case against me.
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Helvaria
No, I don't think so. I've pretty much been the most sketchy member since d1. It should be simple to prepare a case against me.
meee
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Helvaria
No, I don't think so. I've pretty much been the most sketchy member since d1. It should be simple to prepare a case against me.
but u also claimed doc...
10:17 p.m.
which just means most people are very ehhh on voting u even if they think u might be fake
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Anyways, we should focus on lynching mafia today. This makes tracker's last track tonight much more valuable.
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kinda would stick way out if you just went full on them no=
10:17 p.m.
either way ye
10:17 p.m.
no point voting u today
10:17 p.m.
one more thing
10:18 p.m.
its easy to get me lynched off
10:18 p.m.
pat pat
10:18 p.m.
is okay
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because i could get blamed that im not giving info
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Zen
but u also claimed doc...
I concede that you do have a good point.
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and that im being weird
10:18 p.m.
froggiesip
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Zen
pat pat
froggieheart
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I still find the shift in opinion strange.
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i think this morning whenever aeoliae was here
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Helvaria
I still find the shift in opinion strange.
das fair
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ask soon as they said it i got 3 votes
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i do also find aeo going full send kinda
10:19 p.m.
idk might be good town just finally trying or
10:19 p.m.
more like
10:19 p.m.
oh shit i'm maf getting accused let me go attack mode
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trying to meet prod needs?
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star
trying to meet prod needs?
i mean if they just wanna do that
10:19 p.m.
then they went way beyond it
10:19 p.m.
i think
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how many messages does pixel have
10:20 p.m.
idt counting if people are meeting prod or not is gonna help much tho
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they might get lynched tmr
10:20 p.m.
or tonight
10:20 p.m.
im not sure
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like sure there's people who can try to get away by just being quiet
10:20 p.m.
but u know
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is also probs not anyone here i think?
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im not really good at long mafias
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most people are at leaast talking even if not always mafia stuffss
10:21 p.m.
which is more fun
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star
im not really good at long mafias
hugs
10:21 p.m.
same tho
10:21 p.m.
i've only played a few
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i only play the short ones where they get a ton of info
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and most of the time i kinda
10:21 p.m.
give up on it cuz people get so fighty and angry
10:22 p.m.
PensiveWobble
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thats why im so confused as to how yall are supposed to figure out whose mafia without any info (investigating, etc.)
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Zen
give up on it cuz people get so fighty and angry
Froggie_Yes
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star
i only play the short ones where they get a ton of info
ya i don't
10:22 p.m.
play much mafia
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Zen
i've only played a few
ive only played 1 long one
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but i do play like
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some sdg stuff
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whose choice because my first game was a special game
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like dread hunger and stuff
10:22 p.m.
and those are more funs
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star
whose choice because my first game was a special game
worst
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Zen
and those are more funs
oh yeah those
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i think i've also played in a special game here?
10:23 p.m.
lily hosted it
10:23 p.m.
and a lot of my frens were in it
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i did too, but it was my first game
10:23 p.m.
didnt go well
10:23 p.m.
i won the game but i remember was big sad
10:23 p.m.
cuz
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everyone was just
10:23 p.m.
yelling at each other
10:24 p.m.
agfter the game
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i almost got prod kicked uWuDuck
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Zen
agfter the game
that sucks
10:24 p.m.
:(
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i almost got prod kicked uWuDuck
pat pat (also omg cute duck)
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star
that sucks
yeahhhhh
10:24 p.m.
but this game has been better so far!!
10:24 p.m.
mostly!
10:24 p.m.
so hoping it stays
10:24 p.m.
like that
10:25 p.m.
and we can have a calm game if anything
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Zen
pat pat (also omg cute duck)
thanks FLUFFlove1
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Zen
but this game has been better so far!!
thats good!
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originally that special game was going to be my last game
10:26 p.m.
but i think someone pinged me to join this one
10:26 p.m.
i was planning on leaving after the first one ended
10:26 p.m.
because i suck and i keep forgetting FacepalmLmao
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Helvaria
No, I don't think so. I've pretty much been the most sketchy member since d1. It should be simple to prepare a case against me.
I didn't prepare a case against you. I pointed out evidence
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Helvaria
Because now, me being the doctor "makes sense"
It all fits together in your worldview doesn't it
10:43 p.m.
it's all tunneled
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star
thats why they try to find ones that talk less or others
That's... still not going to make it an optimal play.
10:44 p.m.
Like if I'm a mafia in this situation I could try to powerwolf and get 2 chain MLs in a row
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Helvaria
But you clearly replied to a post saying that I claimed doctor?
Did I?
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Helvaria
But right after they put me in possible evil list
Yes, and? Your point isn't even a point. That's the issue.
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now they are replying to everything
What does that mean to you?
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Helvaria
And when I asked about it, Aeoliae is saying they didn't know I was doctor when writing that list
I did say that, yes. I did not take into account mechanics when I was backreading.
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NOT Aeroyi
What does that mean to you?
i didnt see you do it yesterday
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Helvaria
This means for some reason they had a sudden change of heart about my status between writing that list and when I questioned it
Why would I do that? Star is literally like, already dead if I'm a wolf, you're not even a viable push tomorrow if I'm a wolf because you'll be dead, and it just doesn't make sense.
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Helvaria
Also, at that point, either almost everyone or everyone had spoken. If I'm not the doctor, the real doctor should have counter-claimed already, or have a "subtle" strong agenda against me.
PR cover is a thing but we will not bring it up
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NOT Aeroyi
Why would I do that? Star is literally like, already dead if I'm a wolf, you're not even a viable push tomorrow if I'm a wolf because you'll be dead, and it just doesn't make sense.
how am i already dead
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star
and aeoliae and pixel started talking more after zenith got launched
That doesn't even correlate
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NOT Aeroyi
That doesn't even correlate
yeah it does
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I'm not sure if mafia factional kills are mandatory, but I assume they did
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Again, I assume they did. If they did not, that's on them, but I think we should move forward thinking that wolves played optimally. That means that they did try to submit a night kill, and they did role cop someone.
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um...
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NOT Aeroyi
Again, I assume they did. If they did not, that's on them, but I think we should move forward thinking that wolves played optimally. That means that they did try to submit a night kill, and they did role cop someone.
which means doctor blocked it from happening
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if you are fakeclaiming doctor
10:48 p.m.
the doctor is probably going to townread you
10:48 p.m.
that's how pr cover works traditionally
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Any mafia team that read through the 300 messages closely would've caught it, but good job nonetheless
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I'm confused what that means
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NOT Aeroyi
I'm confused what that means
read what i sent under that
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because you're the uncc'd doc? Like I can say "X is acting suspicious" and then not vote on player X. It does not mean that I necessarily think they have to be scum. That's just... not how the game works.
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#tunneled
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thank you
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Okay let me explain something to you.
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okay first of all
10:51 p.m.
if you’re not whatever you are
10:52 p.m.
what are you
10:53 p.m.
star?
10:53 p.m.
wut
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i meant what are they
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they keep replying and replying
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no matter what they are
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they'll claim town citz
10:54 p.m.
so uh
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also let me read up on tracker
10:55 p.m.
cuz i just saw something i didn't see earlier
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Each night, you may choose a player to track. You will learn who your target visited, or that your target did not visit.
10:56 p.m.
okay okay nvm
10:56 p.m.
it does work like i thought
10:56 p.m.
thats why ace couldnt see who else visited him
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When I play wolf, I strive to play optimally in every game, and to play to my wincon. Playing optimally means making the best decision available at a time. That means that if my teammate gets a lot of pressure, I will defend them or bus them if necessary. That means I will play like a town, and not like some extremely anti-town player who literally has nothing in their intentions besides to screw the town over four times in a row. playing to my wincon means that I do not make it harder for myself to win. That includes making it harder for my teammates to win. This means that if I make a push that damns me or a teammate in a cycle, it's bad because I'm working against my wincon. The wolf wincon is parity. The more alive wolves you have at parity, the easier it is, and the faster it comes. If you remove yourself or a teammate, you are making it harder for yourself to reach parity. That is playing against your wincon. If I were to sacrifice myself to kill two town in this game, that would be playing against my wincon because I have basically made the game unwinnable for my partner. This is the very principle of how I play, and I hope it's the way others do to. You should always assume optimal play; it's the right thing to do and normally the most correct. If we assume suboptimal play/gamethrowing, I not only find that offensive that you would even consider that I would break the rules, but it's also just incorrect most of the time. So snap out of it. Thanks.
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thats why ace couldnt see who else visited him
yeahh u confused me when u said that lmao
10:56 p.m.
i thought tracker maybe worked like tos LO
10:56 p.m.
instead
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ace couldnt track themselves?
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Does the doctor not have the Non-consecutive modifier/a restriction that disallows you to protect the same person twice in a row?
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i didnt see you do it yesterday
I literally said that I would actually start playing after my course was over on d2. It was not poorly telegraphed.
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NOT Aeroyi
When I play wolf, I strive to play optimally in every game, and to play to my wincon. Playing optimally means making the best decision available at a time. That means that if my teammate gets a lot of pressure, I will defend them or bus them if necessary. That means I will play like a town, and not like some extremely anti-town player who literally has nothing in their intentions besides to screw the town over four times in a row. playing to my wincon means that I do not make it harder for myself to win. That includes making it harder for my teammates to win. This means that if I make a push that damns me or a teammate in a cycle, it's bad because I'm working against my wincon. The wolf wincon is parity. The more alive wolves you have at parity, the easier it is, and the faster it comes. If you remove yourself or a teammate, you are making it harder for yourself to reach parity. That is playing against your wincon. If I were to sacrifice myself to kill two town in this game, that would be playing against my wincon because I have basically made the game unwinnable for my partner. This is the very principle of how I play, and I hope it's the way others do to. You should always assume optimal play; it's the right thing to do and normally the most correct. If we assume suboptimal play/gamethrowing, I not only find that offensive that you would even consider that I would break the rules, but it's also just incorrect most of the time. So snap out of it. Thanks.
can you explain in easier words
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how am i already dead
You have more votes on you, and you would be a really easy push for me if I was a wolf.
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NOT Aeroyi
I literally said that I would actually start playing after my course was over on d2. It was not poorly telegraphed.
ok.
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NOT Aeroyi
You have more votes on you, and you would be a really easy push for me if I was a wolf.
actually you’re wrong
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which means doctor blocked it from happening
Correct.
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its a tie
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i know you're gamering atm
10:59 p.m.
and stuff
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if you’re not whatever you are
What?
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but let's also calm down a bit
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star
i meant what are they
are you asking for like my identity or what
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u seem a bit extra frustrated
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did you eat dinner yet?
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they keep replying and replying
Yes
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star
did you eat dinner yet?
star sobs
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NOT Aeroyi
are you asking for like my identity or what
yes
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Zen
star sobs
im asking everyone
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Zen
they'll claim town citz
She understands!
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i know youll claim town
11:00 p.m.
here’s my next question
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star
thats why ace couldnt see who else visited him
THATS NOT HOW A TRACKER WORKS
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if you’re town, what message did you get in your inbox yesterday
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A TRACKER SEES THE TARGET OF THE TARGETED PLAYER
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we figured that out aeo
11:00 p.m.
pls
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if you’re town, what message did you get in your inbox yesterday
Unfortunately that is a rulebreaking question that I cannot answer
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calm down a bit
11:00 p.m.
let's talk peacefully
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NOT Aeroyi
Unfortunately that is a rulebreaking question that I cannot answer
did it contain a p
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also star pls
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btw i asked laga before asking you
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no tryna meta game
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i asked laga before asking
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and they said it was okay?
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thats why im asking that question
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Star. If you are asking me to quote my role PM, that is rulebreaking. If you are asking me to verify my role PM, that is rulebreaking
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Also, I could just ask the host for a sample town citizen role pm
11:01 p.m.
so
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that too...
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did it contain peacefully in it
11:01 p.m.
i could ask that byw
11:01 p.m.
byw
11:01 p.m.
btw
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i asked laga before asking
Even if it is fine I refuse to answer this
11:02 p.m.
that means they didnt
11:02 p.m.
ill explain why
11:02 p.m.
star
11:02 p.m.
pls
11:02 p.m.
it's fine
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thats why ace couldnt see who else visited him
Them*
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i don't think
11:02 p.m.
it's a viable thing to push with
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@star Quoted directly from the rules:
• 4. Don't use Host Communication (modcomms) to prove anything. Don't mention something that the host sent you as a direct quote, and don't mention that the host told you about something to validate or prove a point.
11:02 p.m.
no
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That is literally breaking the rules
11:03 p.m.
enough is enough
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i meant i asked the host if that was okay to ask
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everyone who's played this more than once too probably knows what it is somewhat
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or can ask the host too
11:03 p.m.
even if it's allowed
11:03 p.m.
it's
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probs not useful
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i'm sorry star
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i didnt ask the host for info
11:03 p.m.
i asked if im allowed to ask that question
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As I said, it literally doesn't matter since I can ask the host for a sample town citizen role PM
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+ star sint this basically “you suspect me so ur scum.”
11:04 p.m.
So you begin to make excuses
11:04 p.m.
pls
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I did read uo yet vur
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Star, you cannot ask me to quote a single word directly from my Role PM, Host Communications for the sake of the game. I cannot stress this enough.
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star
can you explain in easier words
Basically, stop assuming I would gamethrow or make insanely suboptimal plays as a wolf. If your worldview doesn't fit when you remove those options, That means you're probably wrong
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actually you’re wrong
I have been holding back
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Zen
u seem a bit extra frustrated
Yes
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i never said quote
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NOT Aeroyi
I have been holding back
Release it!!!/hj
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star
i never said quote
You asked me for the direct wording of host communication. That is literally what it means by "don't mention that the host told you about something to validate or prove a point."
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okay but guys
11:07 p.m.
if the host said it was okay it's probs just a small host error
11:07 p.m.
and it's fine
11:07 p.m.
not the host fault
11:07 p.m.
it was mine
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can we move away from the topic of interpreting rules
11:07 p.m.
please
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it was mine
pat pat
11:08 p.m.
yes
11:08 p.m.
let's do that
11:08 p.m.
so
11:08 p.m.
aeo
11:08 p.m.
what are your thoughts on the
11:08 p.m.
two of me and pixel
11:08 p.m.
i know you said you didn't really wanna partake in hel's thingy
11:08 p.m.
btu would always be nice to have some reads
11:08 p.m.
:>
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I already denied the thunderdome, yes
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yeah i don't like it much either
11:09 p.m.
but just
11:09 p.m.
not who u should vote
11:09 p.m.
just
11:09 p.m.
reads?
11:09 p.m.
if u wanna ofc
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Not town?
11:09 p.m.
Like
11:09 p.m.
You're in Poe by virtue of the people around you being townier
11:10 p.m.
and pixel?
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Similiar
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nothing beyond that on either or?
11:12 p.m.
fair enough
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cant we just not lynch anyone
11:13 p.m.
thats enabled anyways
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uh we can but it's usually not good
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star
cant we just not lynch anyone
7/2 correct?
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cuz then tmr we're in the same situation but with one less town
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NOT Aeroyi
7/2 correct?
?
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Zen
cuz then tmr we're in the same situation but with one less town
thats the thing
11:13 p.m.
if we random lynch today
11:13 p.m.
isnt that what the mafia wants
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well we're not random lynching tho
11:14 p.m.
we're tryna remove all our sus townies
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which should hopefully get the mafia too
11:14 p.m.
:>
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im saying that because if we really have a tracker
11:14 p.m.
they would be able to track what happens next
11:15 p.m.
but if we lynch based on whatever evidence we have
11:15 p.m.
the chances are there is a high percent chance we lynch the wrong person
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Today is 7 players alive, 2 are wolves. Tomorrow with a sleep is 6 players alive, 2 are wolves. If there is a ML again, it will be 4 players, 2 are wolves. That is game over. If we do not sleep, tomorrow is 5 players and 2 are wolves. An ML means wolf win. We not only have to determine the alignments of less players, but also we have information regarding someone's flip.
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NOT Aeroyi
Today is 7 players alive, 2 are wolves. Tomorrow with a sleep is 6 players alive, 2 are wolves. If there is a ML again, it will be 4 players, 2 are wolves. That is game over. If we do not sleep, tomorrow is 5 players and 2 are wolves. An ML means wolf win. We not only have to determine the alignments of less players, but also we have information regarding someone's flip.
there is 8 alive players
11:15 p.m.
only zenith is dead
11:15 p.m.
we started with 9
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Oh this is not an 8er is it
11:16 p.m.
then nvm
11:16 p.m.
we could sleep actually
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might actually not be the worst idea
11:16 p.m.
forces the mafia to reveal one town
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one lynch today would also come out with one kill tmr
11:17 p.m.
which leaves the game with 6 players
11:17 p.m.
but if we dont lynch today
11:17 p.m.
we have 8 and one might be gone tmr
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so we can skip one lynch either way yeah
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If we don't lynch today it's still 3 cycles of ML to town loss
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and adding on
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but should we?
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If we do lynch today it's 2 cycles tomorrow
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we still dont know if pixel has met the prod limit yet
11:18 p.m.
prod yet
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but should we?
generally, it's best to skip the lynch in f4
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so if they get prod kicked
11:18 p.m.
and lynched
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if you reach a situation where there are four players alive, 2 are wolves.
11:18 p.m.
1 are wolves
11:18 p.m.
you sleep
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there is only 5 people and 2 mafias
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star
so if they get prod kicked
thought they get replaced
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NOT Aeroyi
generally, it's best to skip the lynch in f4
so we should try to save it for later or
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NOT Aeroyi
thought they get replaced
not sure
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do we just wanna try to use it for some extra info now
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but if they get replaced
11:19 p.m.
the new person would make it more confusing
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Zen
so we should try to save it for later or
Yes
11:19 p.m.
however
11:19 p.m.
in f6 we sleep
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why in F6?
11:20 p.m.
just to have the best odds
11:20 p.m.
or
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Zen
why in F6?
final 6/f6 sleeping makes the game easier
11:21 p.m.
turns it into a af5
11:21 p.m.
if you want until f4 and there are 2 mafias
11:21 p.m.
and 2 village
11:22 p.m.
wouldnt mafia just win?
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if you want until f4 and there are 2 mafias
wait not want
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wouldnt mafia just win?
yes
11:22 p.m.
I mean if you wait until there are 3 town v 1 wolf
11:22 p.m.
best to sleep
11:23 p.m.
well right now we have 8
11:23 p.m.
2 are mafias
11:23 p.m.
if one gets lynched today there is 7
11:23 p.m.
killed
11:23 p.m.
6
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if we ml at f6
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if today’s voting gets skipped, there is 8
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it's game over
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NOT Aeroyi
final 6/f6 sleeping makes the game easier
okay but why then why not rn?
11:24 p.m.
cuz would still make it F5 instead of F6
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okay but why then why not rn?
we could rn
11:24 p.m.
but that'd literally only lower the number of PRs we have
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just we also get tracker info without lynching?
11:24 p.m.
ig
11:24 p.m.
but we'd get that anyways
11:24 p.m.
okay maybe is not
11:24 p.m.
idk
11:24 p.m.
seems like it'd be same either way
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so basically the only real info roles are tracker, neighbor, and jail whatever?
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just we should try to
11:24 p.m.
vote skip once
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Zen
just we also get tracker info without lynching?
Yeah but most likely: role cop carries factional kill == only one person could be tracked 1/8 is fairly eh
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oh true so
11:25 p.m.
we should vote today
11:25 p.m.
so tracker has better odds
11:25 p.m.
then skip tmr
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but if a town gets killed instead of a mafia
11:25 p.m.
doesnt town have more trouble
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well atm we're 8
11:26 p.m.
right
11:26 p.m.
so going down to 7 won't change how quickly we lose
11:26 p.m.
it just makes it a bit clearer who town is
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being on odds is better than evens ig
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then please lynch me
11:27 p.m.
i wanna get out PEPEhmmsus
11:27 p.m.
i dont mind being lynch off anyways
11:28 p.m.
getting lynched means by the next day, there will only be 6 people left over
11:28 p.m.
idk what the odds would be
11:28 p.m.
but pretty risky
11:29 p.m.
because have you ever considered what would happen if the pr die
11:29 p.m.
just because there is a doctor doesnt mean they will protect the same person
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Hi I’m back
1:42 a.m.
I was at a restaurant w my family
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Please do not not vote
2:09 a.m.
There is only 1 track remaining, since I die tonight and ace dies in 2 nights
2:09 a.m.
Mafia out means that remaining mafia must always visit to kill
2:09 a.m.
This makes even a null truck valuable, since it confirms innocence
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NOT Aeroyi
I already denied the thunderdome, yes
(in assuming Thunderdome refers to the zen/pixel/you I stated) I also don't really understand why you did this. Who is actually evil, in your eyes, other than you 3? You've already stated that you townlean afk and townlock camryn. The only one remaining is me and star, but you think I'm doctor, as of a few hours ago. Even if star is evil, then there's still 1 evil within the 3 I singled out. So why deny the Thunderdome?
2:24 a.m.
What are your updated, most likely evil teams now?
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Have I not already answered all of your questions?
2:24 a.m.
I think I've touched on each thing you've asked.
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Sorry if I missed them out.
2:25 a.m.
Could you restate them?
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Also, what do you think of pixel? Based on a quick search I just did you don't really have an opinion on them.
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As for denying the thunderdome, it is both poor play and not what I will be doing to new players. I can become very intense, and I do not want to give people a terrible first game of mafia. Besides, even if it wasn't a terrible tactic from my eyes, in no way does it solve the current situation. A cohesive town works together, not against itself. I do not think a thunderdome is what we need here. Even if the numbers don't add up, it doesn't warrant extreme measures.
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Oh my bad, you referred to them by their full name pixelad, so the search didn't yield results. I'd still like a response to that question though.
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Helvaria
Also, what do you think of pixel? Based on a quick search I just did you don't really have an opinion on them.
Poe, yes
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Helvaria
Could you restate them?
Probably one in zen/pixel
2:28 a.m.
Pixel reminds me of Roxy from syndicate so maybe that's a place worth checking
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Well, what do you think of voting pixel out today then? I think there's a good chance they are evil.
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I would be willing to consolidate on Pixel
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I’ll see how thisll turn out I guess
2:52 a.m.
Idk I’m trying not to get prodded again
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 6:45 a.m.
ugh im having a really hard time reading aeoliae's msges
6:45 a.m.
everything is "message could not be loaded"
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
been at work ftr!
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 6:57 a.m.
i miss reading ur posts meowdy
6:57 a.m.
come back
6:58 a.m.
today's chat is too much work
7:00 a.m.
i still have hw and stuff to do so i might not have enough time to do reads tonight
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i still have hw and stuff to do so i might not have enough time to do reads tonight
Well you better be online because I want to hammer. We have similar timezone issues, and I want to make sure we lynch mafia before I die tonight. I don't trust the possible mafia members to do the lynch.
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Helvaria
Well you better be online because I want to hammer. We have similar timezone issues, and I want to make sure we lynch mafia before I die tonight. I don't trust the possible mafia members to do the lynch.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:36 a.m.
i will be online for ~4 hours or someowdy
7:37 a.m.
ping me if im still online but not here though
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You're here right?
7:38 a.m.
Let's discuss who to lynch.
7:39 a.m.
What do you think of our current situation?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:39 a.m.
its a mess
7:39 a.m.
i haven't organised my thoughts
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Ok... Get back when you do.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:40 a.m.
for now i think aoeliae might be maf but i haven't rly looked into their posts today yet just read through
7:40 a.m.
might
7:41 a.m.
zen/star/pixel --> star is my top town out of 3 currently
7:42 a.m.
due to recent interactions i suppose
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Yes, I agree.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:46 a.m.
zen/pixel/aoe zen seems to talk a lot but most are unimportant msges pixel i don't have a lot of an impression on, kinda laying very low under the radar (did i use that right?) aoe did not do anything until today -- honestly expected more or smth like pre-prepared notes or whatever cuz they're experienced in mafia -- maybe i had too high expectations -- unsure why they're pushing star rather than the others
7:47 a.m.
i still want to reread chat and double check the times with the voting times
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something interesting about yesterday's votes is that before zenith got voted out, I was the top vote.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:47 a.m.
to get a better understanding of what was going on
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Helvaria
something interesting about yesterday's votes is that before zenith got voted out, I was the top vote.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:47 a.m.
huh
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Since I'm town, switching from town to town is an interesting choice for mafia.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:48 a.m.
oh ace
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Helvaria
Since I'm town, switching from town to town is an interesting choice for mafia.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:48 a.m.
wdym
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This makes me trust zenew a bit more. But pixel coming in afterwards to add to that vote is a bit suspicious.
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wdym
If zenew was mafia, they risked their reputation, switching from a town vote (good for them) to another town vote. There isn't exactly any way for a mafia to gain from this.
7:49 a.m.
Pixel and zenew coming in to vote together is also pretty stupid if they were both mafia. Especially since pixel's was a silent vote.
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Helvaria
If zenew was mafia, they risked their reputation, switching from a town vote (good for them) to another town vote. There isn't exactly any way for a mafia to gain from this.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:50 a.m.
zen did not vote you though
7:50 a.m.
?
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zen voted zenith.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:50 a.m.
yes
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by switching i mean not switching their vote but switching the overall lynch
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:51 a.m.
ohhh
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Pixel and zenew coming in to vote together is also pretty stupid if they were both mafia. Especially since pixel's was a silent vote.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:53 a.m.
my thoughts on d1 lynch was just 3 ppl who didn't know who to vote and just voted on whoever was most likely able to be voted out instead of lynching randomly in a 5 way tie
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and zenith kind of had a lot of ppl's sus on them
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ace is like -- following whatever
7:54 a.m.
pixel too
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Here are the possible mafia teas imo, ranked from highest to lowest chance: Aeoliae/Pixel - It just feels right. Zenew/Pixel - Slightly strange how coordinated they are, but still possible. Aeoliae/Zenew - Less likely then other 2, since Aeoliae did a "poke vote" for no reason to zenew on d1, and also stated their intention to vote zenew later that day. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254820035558641815 Camryn/Aeoliae OR Zenew - Lower because Camryn is probably town, but they have actually fallen silent, which is weird. Camryn/Pixel - Least likely, since Camryn did a crack theory targeting Pixel. Cleared peope who are not considered are: Afk - Very townie. Sharing reads. Helvaria - Doctor. Ace - Tracker. Star - Makes wild incorrect assumptions and guesses about the setup, votes herself, then tries to attack Aeoliae with metagame. If mafia, she is actually the best player here.
7:56 a.m.
mafia teas, yes.
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Based on these I think Pixel is the best vote.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:57 a.m.
d2 votes on star aeo first to vote star (attempted to) ace followed pixelad followed pixelad removed aeo voted star (figured out how to) pixelad voted star again star self voted
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im just gonna ignore ace here
7:58 a.m.
pixel's votes just seems like they'll vote whoever 💀
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Pixel is mafia -> Camryn pseudo-cleared, Aeoliae or zenew can be tracked, game is won Pixel is town -> actually not sure let me think
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 7:58 a.m.
whoever was voted last maybe
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Aeoliae is suspicious. I also am having the same issues reading their messages, but their vote on star felt really out of touch. But I think giving the benefit of doubt is ok here, since their vote was when they were midway through chat reading I think?
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Helvaria
Here are the possible mafia teas imo, ranked from highest to lowest chance: Aeoliae/Pixel - It just feels right. Zenew/Pixel - Slightly strange how coordinated they are, but still possible. Aeoliae/Zenew - Less likely then other 2, since Aeoliae did a "poke vote" for no reason to zenew on d1, and also stated their intention to vote zenew later that day. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1253857127173455964/1254820035558641815 Camryn/Aeoliae OR Zenew - Lower because Camryn is probably town, but they have actually fallen silent, which is weird. Camryn/Pixel - Least likely, since Camryn did a crack theory targeting Pixel. Cleared peope who are not considered are: Afk - Very townie. Sharing reads. Helvaria - Doctor. Ace - Tracker. Star - Makes wild incorrect assumptions and guesses about the setup, votes herself, then tries to attack Aeoliae with metagame. If mafia, she is actually the best player here.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:04 a.m.
what interactions does pixel have with aeo
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Hi @camryn (✿◠‿◠), if you're free, could you give your take on our current situation, and who you think are most likely to be evil? The sooner the better, for the sake of afk and my timezones.
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Pixelad3
Aeoliae - Town Maybe??? IDK they could have a PR Zenith - Also Town, but I feel slightly more sure abt it Zenew - No clue Helvaria - Also no clue (edited)
this
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Pixelad3
I read aeoliae (i think thats how u spell their name?? Idk) as town earlier but im not that good at reads and it was sorta based on gut feeling-
This
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:06 a.m.
Think
8:08 a.m.
8:09 a.m.
A camryn/aeoliae team would be tough
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:09 a.m.
my thoughts on basically everything on pixel ^^
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The problem is, the line between foolishness and malice is hard to discern
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:10 a.m.
pixel/aeo & pixel/zen ig would be possible
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yes, those are, in my opinion, the most likely.
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Helvaria
Pixel is mafia -> Camryn pseudo-cleared, Aeoliae or zenew can be tracked, game is won Pixel is town -> actually not sure let me think
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:19 a.m.
i don't really know how to match the mafia teams, im more to looking into them individually aeo/pixel -- not much interactions i think from aeo to pixel, just pixel reading them as town for now but can be considered -- pixel followed on voting star zen/pixel -- pixel following them on reads/voting zenith (anything else?) aeo/zen -- "poke vote" -- don't remember any reaction coming from zen -- aeo also did not say anything/put pressure on zen like u did -- aeo said zen/zenith are as good as the other vote cam/any above -- not sure -- only thing is cam has been silent/no reads from cam d2
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Helvaria
Pixel is mafia -> Camryn pseudo-cleared, Aeoliae or zenew can be tracked, game is won Pixel is town -> actually not sure let me think
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:20 a.m.
oh yeah i was replying to this msg cuz im not sure how this works lol
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pixel's votes just seems like they'll vote whoever 💀
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:21 a.m.
i stand by this point -- pixel seems to hop onto any wagon
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Aeoliae is suspicious. I also am having the same issues reading their messages, but their vote on star felt really out of touch. But I think giving the benefit of doubt is ok here, since their vote was when they were midway through chat reading I think?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:24 a.m.
aeo's comments on star is weird
8:24 a.m.
but also aeo's posts at sod
8:31 a.m.
1. suspected pr were not pr 2. claimed no maf out of 3 3. was leaning on zen/zenith (zen was one of 3) 4. kind of replied to a lot of unrelated posts (they can do what they want, just feel some are unneeded, you can ignore me on this) --> such as replying to ace/zenith's posts (might wanna focus on maf instead?) 5. held on to star after reading star's post -- forgot about zen (?) 6. i asked aeo during eod of d1 if they were keeping up and they said yes (should have already known that ace was tracker and what happened in d1 if that was the case) btw did they finish reading all of d1&d2 or only did it halfway
8:31 a.m.
these are just what i vaguely remember
8:36 a.m.
@Helvaria
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Pixelad3
idk my head hurts
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:44 a.m.
hi how's ur head
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Zen
i don't really have much reason to suspect one over the other
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:46 a.m.
so is it pixel or aeo -- whats ur conclusion?
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yupp
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:47 a.m.
yup?
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NOT Aeroyi
Star wolfslipped
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:49 a.m.
can u elaborate
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NOT Aeroyi
but I think you perspective slipped on d1
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:49 a.m.
i don't get how u got to that conclusion
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:50 a.m.
imma need to check back on this again
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:51 a.m.
+wolf for who also LLLL message could not be loaded again
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:51 a.m.
what
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:51 a.m.
where do we have healing
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:52 a.m.
can't see msg don't know what its for
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:52 a.m.
same, get back later
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:52 a.m.
don't get what all the continuity error means -- need explanation
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Oh god not another reply wave I can't see the replies to
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Not sure how to express this feeling, but Aeoliae's reads feel like they are trying to mislead and ignoring key information (that I'm doctor, that star is clearly pretty townie, that the Thunderdome is real), but then after questioning about it they rapidly shift their view back to reality. I could be tunnelling, though.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:53 a.m.
are you counter claiming or no? why does healing/protection roles matter to you
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so is it pixel or aeo -- whats ur conclusion?
Also I mean
8:53 a.m.
#ne70-vote
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Is how am still feeling atm
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:54 a.m.
prefer it if you'd add reasons behind to make it easier to know why u decided to town/townlock/townlean/empty
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Idk if u saw yet but just the way they went onto star
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When even I who's like way less experienced
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Could tell was
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
prefer it if you'd add reasons behind to make it easier to know why u decided to town/townlock/townlean/empty
The townlock on Camryn was because of the crack theory post. Not sure about the others.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:54 a.m.
frustrated town pixel but no angry town star?
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Just frustrated new town
8:54 a.m.
Felt so bleh
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:54 a.m.
🤔
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:56 a.m.
i don't really see yours imo
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:57 a.m.
defend yourself?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 8:57 a.m.
what would be useful then
8:58 a.m.
Afk is aeo's number 1 hater
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:00 a.m.
encourage star to help town while voting star -- your wording doesn't seem like you think you're talking to a maf in this sentence but idk how else one should react to self voting
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:00 a.m.
give more evidence it helps in forming our thoughts
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:02 a.m.
i think what star is trying to say is
9:02 a.m.
maf went with whoever d1 -if star doesn't get lynched -backup for d2 would be lynching star
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:03 a.m.
i don't rly get the under suspension meaning though since you said you're 'town-leaned', why would you be voted out
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:05 a.m.
clearly did not read chat AND just read this urself u were there
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:08 a.m.
?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:14 a.m.
who would you ML then
9:14 a.m.
can't see replies again
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
who would you ML then
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:14 a.m.
star?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:15 a.m.
why isn't it
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:17 a.m.
??? im just gonna skip this for now unless we need it
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:18 a.m.
Think
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I just realised this makes no sense since I was tracked and visited ace. The doctor would want me dead.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:22 a.m.
this is a lot on how you play as wolf, what point are you trying to prove here?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:23 a.m.
@Helvaria did you reply to this
9:24 a.m.
But there's no restriction other than no self protection.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:25 a.m.
do you have reads not based on elimination
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:26 a.m.
can we skip sleep?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
do you have reads not based on elimination
Hold on there this is kinda a bit too much hating, elimination is a pretty valid strategy.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:27 a.m.
why can't you doc urself though
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:27 a.m.
oh maybe aeo scum read star cuz of this
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:28 a.m.
either pixel or aeo
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
why can't you doc urself though
I am blessed with the ability to save anyone I wish, but not myself. Perhaps these are realities of society.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:29 a.m.
oh that sucks
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Hold on there this is kinda a bit too much hating, elimination is a pretty valid strategy.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:30 a.m.
yes but there's no reasons backing up the poe other than "others being more towny"
9:30 a.m.
im not hating
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I just realised this makes no sense since I was tracked and visited ace. The doctor would want me dead.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:31 a.m.
exactly
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Zen
Afk is aeo's number 1 hater
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:32 a.m.
sorry just replying
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Is how am still feeling atm
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:34 a.m.
do u have anything else to say on pix/aeo/star
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Not sure how to express this feeling, but Aeoliae's reads feel like they are trying to mislead and ignoring key information (that I'm doctor, that star is clearly pretty townie, that the Thunderdome is real), but then after questioning about it they rapidly shift their view back to reality. I could be tunnelling, though.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:35 a.m.
HMMM
9:36 a.m.
aeo's been against star being town since d1 -- smth about no purities -- then said star perspective slipped -- but only based on that post/d1 early posts -- still haven't seen anything on late d1/d2 from aeo
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i forgot about pixel again
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:38 a.m.
here ill reply to you for the next couple minutes
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:40 a.m.
actually can you quote those
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:40 a.m.
there's no reason to not suspect you
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:41 a.m.
why?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:41 a.m.
if you can, pls read
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:41 a.m.
can you explain your votes/unvotes
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
do u have anything else to say on pix/aeo/star
Sobs I can't even see what ur replying to but ik it's me since ping
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:42 a.m.
dw just answer the question
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And idt I have much else to say on aeo if you read all the stuff I said previously
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:43 a.m.
just sum it upp
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And still think Pixel seems towny
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
just sum it upp
Uhhhh okayy
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Blah am tired tho
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But
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Iirc
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Aeo weird with star stuff
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Seems way smarter than how they're playing
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Uhhh
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D1 they were funky with
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Oh dw imma say stuff d2
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Then didn't
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Until the hel thingy
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Anddd
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:45 a.m.
HMMM
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put it
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in
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one
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sentence
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Oh yeah I trusted them d1 but might be more cuz they were helping me with the basics
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
sentence
Sob
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Okay
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:45 a.m.
i hate searching for your posts 💀 255 posts to go through
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yk why you're last? 💀
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
yk why you're last? 💀
CatCry
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Well okayyy
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Uhm
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Aeo feels like he's not playing as well as he would if he was town?
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Ig that's the summary
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:47 a.m.
you've played with him before?
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Just it's very clear he's like
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One of the best players in this game
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Or should be
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But idk
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Is kinda being funky
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Okay welp
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I might
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:49 a.m.
no
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Fall asleep at any time
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
no
Wdym no
9:50 a.m.
Afk doesn't even wanna let me sleep sobbing
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Zen
I might
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:50 a.m.
thought you were gonna say ur leaving and yes u did
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:51 a.m.
your posts are filled with a bunch of 1-2 words
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and most are just casual convos
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THAT'S JUST HOW I TYPE AM SORYYE
9:51 a.m.
dead
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:52 a.m.
give info meowdy
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But I feel like
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:52 a.m.
if you don't know what to talk about
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I've been pretty good at not just doing random convos this game sobs
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:52 a.m.
talk about ur possible mafia teams
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and why
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This is like way more than I usually manage
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:52 a.m.
based on what
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Am ewpy
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Eepy
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:55 a.m.
what
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:57 a.m.
zen/pixel? Sip
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Afk hates me
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Jkjk
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:58 a.m.
not saying no?
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I feel like
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You should just be able to assume its a no???
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 9:58 a.m.
?
9:58 a.m.
zen/pixel is totally possible
9:59 a.m.
if you flip scum, pixel should be ur teammate, no?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
zen/pixel is totally possible
It indeed is
10:02 a.m.
Also so about what to do if pixel flips town, I think in this case Camryn is evil
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:02 a.m.
why?
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camryn reading pixel?
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I really doubt zen/Aeoliae team
10:03 a.m.
And Camryn is the most suspicious out of the remaining
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:03 a.m.
zenith/pixel flip town --> camryn?
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I'm just gonna go sleep
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Imo, yes
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Zen
I'm just gonna go sleep
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:03 a.m.
?
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voting you lol
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Zen
I'm just gonna go sleep
Not yet stay online let's hammer in an hour
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I'm not gonna be able to think and give good answers when am this fucking tired anyways
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Zen
I'm not gonna be able to think and give good answers when am this fucking tired anyways
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:04 a.m.
what time is it
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Helvaria
Not yet stay online let's hammer in an hour
Bro I haven't slept for like
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ok let me think
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6v2 today
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And I spent all of today
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Doing errands
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And cleaning
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4v2 tomorrow if mislynch
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Zen
And cleaning
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:04 a.m.
tmi, talk game
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YOU ASKED WDYM
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Sob
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3v2 since no lynch is best
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this is annoying
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:05 a.m.
fr
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only 1 mislynch left
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and I die tonight
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Zenith lynch was not good for town
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so afk, who do you think is the best lynch?
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I feel like camryn is giving me extra paranoia about evil teams
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:07 a.m.
pixel would tell us more but like- aeo and zen i can't rly pick rn 😭
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@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] I'm trusting you to lead the town after I die
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:08 a.m.
don't die meowdy
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can u be my mentor
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or smth
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I don't think that is possible
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:09 a.m.
:(((
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Helvaria
I don't think that is possible
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:10 a.m.
do we have anything more on pixel
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like
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if pixel flips
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scum - aeo/zen town - camryn
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but i don't rly get
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did aeo mention zen or pixel out of them 3
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which one did aeo pick
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Pixel flipping mafia is easy enough. @ace! ★ will track either aeo or zen. If night kill occurs (mafia might try to be tricky), ace can confirm the innocence of one of them. The game is solved.
10:13 a.m.
Pixel flipping town is very annoying as the track being null is does not confirm town. Possible teams are a combination of Camryn, zen and Aeoliae. I think that zen/Aeoliae team is less likely, so Camryn should go die. However, Camryn is indeed the least suspicious one. I think you guys should decide, since you will have more info than me right now by that time.
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which one did aeo pick
Aeo dodged the question, saying that Thunderdome is bad for town.
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Zen picked aeo
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Pixel is ???
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:14 a.m.
so.. aeo - ? pixel - zen zen - aeo what is thunderdome
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pixel said they trust zen less by 1% i think
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so.. aeo - ? pixel - zen zen - aeo what is thunderdome
My proposition for the 3 of them to fight it out
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Helvaria
Pixel flipping town is very annoying as the track being null is does not confirm town. Possible teams are a combination of Camryn, zen and Aeoliae. I think that zen/Aeoliae team is less likely, so Camryn should go die. However, Camryn is indeed the least suspicious one. I think you guys should decide, since you will have more info than me right now by that time.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:15 a.m.
I'll keep this in mind
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@Pixelad3 we really want you dead. Can you defend yourself? I recommend pushing for another person while at it.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:17 a.m.
Sip
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@Alive Line NE
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Helvaria
Pixel flipping mafia is easy enough. @ace! ★ will track either aeo or zen. If night kill occurs (mafia might try to be tricky), ace can confirm the innocence of one of them. The game is solved.
Oh and about this, I think it also confirms Camryn mostly since Camryn has been pretty anti pixel since day 1.
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Helvaria
Oh and about this, I think it also confirms Camryn mostly since Camryn has been pretty anti pixel since day 1.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:18 a.m.
hmmm i rly don't know what to say about camryn rn cuz they haven't been saying a thing
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Oh and about this, I think it also confirms Camryn mostly since Camryn has been pretty anti pixel since day 1.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:19 a.m.
are there any other occurences than zenith/pixel paired interaction?
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Hmm, there actually isn't much.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:23 a.m.
zenith flipping town dismisses zenith/pixel pair catsit
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so idk how it would relate to camryn
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Zenith?
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Oh zenith
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:23 a.m.
yeah
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unless camryn was just pushing for random towns
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so idk how it would relate to camryn
In saying that, Camryn accusing pixel right out of the gate is probably not something mafia teammates would do to each other
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Helvaria
In saying that, Camryn accusing pixel right out of the gate is probably not something mafia teammates would do to each other
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:25 a.m.
we're saying if pixel town then camryn maf right?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
we're saying if pixel town then camryn maf right?
That's different. That's because Aeoliae and zen, who have been opposing each other, are probably not teammates. Leaving Camryn + one of them the most likely team.
10:26 a.m.
BUT a player of Aeoliae's calibre might be able to fake that apparent opposition
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:26 a.m.
oh
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Helvaria
BUT a player of Aeoliae's calibre might be able to fake that apparent opposition
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:26 a.m.
wdym
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Helvaria
That's different. That's because Aeoliae and zen, who have been opposing each other, are probably not teammates. Leaving Camryn + one of them the most likely team.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:26 a.m.
why can't aeo/zen just be distancing themselves
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I'm just saying that Aeoliae and zen could be teammates after all
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:26 a.m.
gm
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:27 a.m.
HII
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why can't aeo/zen just be distancing themselves
Yes, that's what I mean
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:27 a.m.
lemme read up omg
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:27 a.m.
finally here 😭
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
gm
Good morning. We are discussing who to kill right now, and your insight would be greatly appreciated.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:27 a.m.
im sryyyy i got busy asf😭
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NOT Aeroyi
Even if it is fine I refuse to answer this
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:29 a.m.
the way they reacted here is fucking terrible btw 😭
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why did they get so mad💀
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Yeah I noticed that but I don't want to try to use the meta analysis to prove anything it's really not in the spirit of the game 💀
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:30 a.m.
ya i mean not the content of what they r saying j the overdefensiveness is weird
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and their to e
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tone
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NOT Aeroyi
When I play wolf, I strive to play optimally in every game, and to play to my wincon. Playing optimally means making the best decision available at a time. That means that if my teammate gets a lot of pressure, I will defend them or bus them if necessary. That means I will play like a town, and not like some extremely anti-town player who literally has nothing in their intentions besides to screw the town over four times in a row. playing to my wincon means that I do not make it harder for myself to win. That includes making it harder for my teammates to win. This means that if I make a push that damns me or a teammate in a cycle, it's bad because I'm working against my wincon. The wolf wincon is parity. The more alive wolves you have at parity, the easier it is, and the faster it comes. If you remove yourself or a teammate, you are making it harder for yourself to reach parity. That is playing against your wincon. If I were to sacrifice myself to kill two town in this game, that would be playing against my wincon because I have basically made the game unwinnable for my partner. This is the very principle of how I play, and I hope it's the way others do to. You should always assume optimal play; it's the right thing to do and normally the most correct. If we assume suboptimal play/gamethrowing, I not only find that offensive that you would even consider that I would break the rules, but it's also just incorrect most of the time. So snap out of it. Thanks.
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:33 a.m.
girl wtf
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zen has a habit of derailing game talk that i havent rly picked up on until now
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star
then please lynch me
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:35 a.m.
what-
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NOT Aeroyi
Why would I do that? Star is literally like, already dead if I'm a wolf, you're not even a viable push tomorrow if I'm a wolf because you'll be dead, and it just doesn't make sense.
Can you explain this part about star? Not sure if you are awake though...
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Helvaria
If zenew was mafia, they risked their reputation, switching from a town vote (good for them) to another town vote. There isn't exactly any way for a mafia to gain from this.
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:36 a.m.
not sure i follow the logic here
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Ok so: Top wagon is me, because of ace. Zen decides to express their opinion, voting zenith and equalising votes. Pixel follows suit. Ace follow suit.
10:38 a.m.
Zen as a mafia has no reason to want to switch vote from town to town
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aeo's been against star being town since d1 -- smth about no purities -- then said star perspective slipped -- but only based on that post/d1 early posts -- still haven't seen anything on late d1/d2 from aeo
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:38 a.m.
what was the pov slip in question
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It would in fact, make them more suspicious
10:38 a.m.
Hence, zen is less suspicious than pixel and Aeoliae in my eyes.
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But pixel following the vote is weird.
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and most are just casual convos
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:39 a.m.
our synergy w this read
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Ok so: Top wagon is me, because of ace. Zen decides to express their opinion, voting zenith and equalising votes. Pixel follows suit. Ace follow suit.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:39 a.m.
but why wouldn't maf just vote u
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oh wait
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is that what u said
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They would, exactly.
10:39 a.m.
They wouldn't start their own wagon, that serves no purpose other than making themself look more suspicious.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
what was the pov slip in question
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:39 a.m.
just search perspective or slip by aeo
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:40 a.m.
why r ppl sure afk isnt scum btw is it just vibes
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Vibes yeah
10:40 a.m.
The only person with detailed reads on D1, and consistently contributing throughout the game.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:40 a.m.
sorry lemme read current convo now
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The only person with detailed reads on D1, and consistently contributing throughout the game.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:41 a.m.
tbh camryn was my role model d1
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who motivated me to do reads and stuff
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Helvaria
Zen as a mafia has no reason to want to switch vote from town to town
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:42 a.m.
thats fair and this is not disrespect to zen but a lot of players r new here, and the reason i scumread zenith is bc he talked weird and he ended up being town💀so i feel like always analyzing for the most optimal play isn’t necessarily smart for this PL
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:42 a.m.
otherwise i'd probably just be uhh doing nothing much
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Helvaria
Can you explain this part about star? Not sure if you are awake though...
I am so sorry you actually did explain it to star
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
thats fair and this is not disrespect to zen but a lot of players r new here, and the reason i scumread zenith is bc he talked weird and he ended up being town💀so i feel like always analyzing for the most optimal play isn’t necessarily smart for this PL
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:42 a.m.
what is PL?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:43 a.m.
player list
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LLL
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LOL*
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:43 a.m.
oh
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earlier aeo said pl+1?
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idk what it meant
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:43 a.m.
lemme look it up
10:43 a.m.
i could try to decipher
10:44 a.m.
i have no clue what blud is on ab here unfortunately
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I am really ?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:45 a.m.
like why did he j drop that and not elaborate im crying
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pl +2
10:45 a.m.
ok so on rereading a bit I still feel that pixel is the best vote for info, but I really think Aeoliae is evil
10:46 a.m.
I think Aeoliae evil chance is higher than zenew, so it's between pixel and Aeoliae
10:46 a.m.
@camryn (✿◠‿◠) Who do you think is the best vote today?
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NOT Aeroyi
it does not hinge on factual evidence
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:47 a.m.
50% of mafia is gut reads what😭
10:48 a.m.
why would pixel b the best vote for info out of curiosity
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Helvaria
I think Aeoliae evil chance is higher than zenew, so it's between pixel and Aeoliae
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:48 a.m.
its rough bc aeoliae to me is either scum or a super reactive town and how harsh he is with his responses is making him harder to read for me
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Aeoliae voting scenarios: Aeoliae is evil - tracker can track on pixel, zen or maybe camryn. This will either confirm evil (game solved) or confirm one person's innocence. The game becomes 5v1. 1 mislynch is allowed. Aeoliae is town - painful for tracker as usual. probably go for zen or smth? This scenario really sucks.
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Helvaria
Pixel flipping mafia is easy enough. @ace! ★ will track either aeo or zen. If night kill occurs (mafia might try to be tricky), ace can confirm the innocence of one of them. The game is solved.
this is why pixel should be a good vote
10:51 a.m.
This should be most apparent for you, camryn. Your poe dosen't include yourself, only the 3 of pixel/aeoliae/zen. Since aeoliae/zen is the least likely combination of 3, pixel is probably evil.
10:51 a.m.
Actually even if it is a mislynch it should be easy solve if you are town.
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This should be most apparent for you, camryn. Your poe dosen't include yourself, only the 3 of pixel/aeoliae/zen. Since aeoliae/zen is the least likely combination of 3, pixel is probably evil.
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:52 a.m.
yes but we r excluding afk in this analysis which is why its not apparent to me. like even if u think afk is town shouldnt it still be wise to try and read who they could be partnered with
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Eh, to me, sometimes you just have to live with the assumptions
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:53 a.m.
i probs townlean afk ftr but i dont think its smart to write them out of all scenarios when if they r mafia we r essentially fucked if we get out pixel and they flip town yk
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
yes but we r excluding afk in this analysis which is why its not apparent to me. like even if u think afk is town shouldnt it still be wise to try and read who they could be partnered with
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:53 a.m.
you could try it, kinda curious how that would turn out but we might wanna leave that for n2/d3 Sip
10:54 a.m.
especially since we only have a few hours left
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yeah let's end this soon
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so
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Aeoliae or pixel?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:55 a.m.
im fine w a pixel vote here ftr bc i agree it could glean us some info n ur explanation makes sense im just putting that out there
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
especially since we only have a few hours left
We both won't be there for the true dayend, so we have to end this now or some weird stuff might happen with votes after we leave.
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Helvaria
Aeoliae or pixel?
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:56 a.m.
pixel bc they also give nothing at least aeoliae tweaking gives us something to read
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Helvaria
We both won't be there for the true dayend, so we have to end this now or some weird stuff might happen with votes after we leave.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 10:56 a.m.
yesyes
10:57 a.m.
so if pixel flips scum tonight, tracker does their job and we get the other maf d3 👏👏
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:57 a.m.
im fine to lock my vote in w yall now if u guys r somehow a scum team i will feel STUPID but w the doc claim and no cc idt thats possible LOLLL
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well this is annoying we need 3 to hammer
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 10:59 a.m.
i lean towards pixel here but if yall think aeoliae is smarter i trust ur judgement and will vote w u guys, but hels info analysis on voting pixel sat better w me
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i mean 5
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Helvaria
well this is annoying we need 3 to hammer
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 11:00 a.m.
there's still some ppl who haven't voted yet
11:00 a.m.
which may change our final votes
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ok so briefing for @ace! ★ if we actually go through with pixel vote: If pixel is evil, track either aeoliae or zen. I reccomend Aeoliae. Remember, with only 1 mafia left, your "no visit" track can confirm townies, IF a kill occurs at night. Things may get trickier if mafia decides not to kill for some reason. If pixel is not evil, track one of Aeoliae/Zen/Camryn. BUT a null track in this case will not confirm since only 1 mafia member does the nightkill.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-27 11:04 a.m.
im gonna start getting ready for work now but ping me if u need anything
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Oh and for everyone, do not treat my words after I die as 100% correcct because I like making assumptions. But be wary of Aeoliae, they're the most skilled player here and can easily sway you guys.
11:04 a.m.
And for @star ... Don't vote yourself out. Please.
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i dont rly like pixelads interactions here as well. they seem to j be posting a lot of fluff and not rly saying much to progress convo at all but granted its early
@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] This was the other post where camryn opposed pixel.
11:05 a.m.
Please remember that zen/aeoliae is still possible and very dangerous
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@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] This was the other post where camryn opposed pixel.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 11:06 a.m.
that's true though and i do agree with that
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@Alive Line NE get on and hammer pixel
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 11:20 a.m.
whycry
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guys the hell
11:23 a.m.
i was sleepinh
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 11:24 a.m.
morning
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morning
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Helvaria
ok so briefing for @ace! ★ if we actually go through with pixel vote: If pixel is evil, track either aeoliae or zen. I reccomend Aeoliae. Remember, with only 1 mafia left, your "no visit" track can confirm townies, IF a kill occurs at night. Things may get trickier if mafia decides not to kill for some reason. If pixel is not evil, track one of Aeoliae/Zen/Camryn. BUT a null track in this case will not confirm since only 1 mafia member does the nightkill.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-27 11:26 a.m.
@ace! ★ read this
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k already did
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11 pings
12:21 p.m.
I just got up
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Helvaria
@Pixelad3 we really want you dead. Can you defend yourself? I recommend pushing for another person while at it.
Yea idk
12:22 p.m.
ggs
12:22 p.m.
I was thinking of quitting anyway
12:24 p.m.
And its prob impossible to change ur minds now
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Helvaria
I'm just saying that Aeoliae and zen could be teammates after all
you're saying ibussed zen
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Helvaria
Pixel flipping town is very annoying as the track being null is does not confirm town. Possible teams are a combination of Camryn, zen and Aeoliae. I think that zen/Aeoliae team is less likely, so Camryn should go die. However, Camryn is indeed the least suspicious one. I think you guys should decide, since you will have more info than me right now by that time.
No. Camryn is also town
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
don't get what all the continuity error means -- need explanation
it means it's contradictory
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Helvaria
Not sure how to express this feeling, but Aeoliae's reads feel like they are trying to mislead and ignoring key information (that I'm doctor, that star is clearly pretty townie, that the Thunderdome is real), but then after questioning about it they rapidly shift their view back to reality. I could be tunnelling, though.
MY GOD CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN, LIKE, 15 TIMES IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE
1:00 p.m.
@ace! ★ TRACK ME
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Wil do?
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-27 1:04 p.m.
EOD no more talking
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-27 7:51 p.m.
Top of Day 3
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-06-27 7:51 p.m.
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okay
2:02 p.m.
let me explain how Lylo works. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO AVOID VOTING UNTIL ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY
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If just a single town misvotes
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Yeah so for anyone wondering
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that's game over
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aeo didn't visit anyone
2:03 p.m.
Which I'm not surprised about
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thats why i said not to lynch yesy
2:03 p.m.
yesterday
2:03 p.m.
if im right
2:04 p.m.
the mafia listened to what hel said
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Hel was just the standard kill
2:04 p.m.
like
2:05 p.m.
it means its someone whose been online for a long time
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star
it means its someone whose been online for a long time
???
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they would be testing hel to see if they were actually doc before killing
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Star, if literally anyone in this game had to make a night kill last night, they would all choose Hel
2:06 p.m.
First off, they cannot be protected
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ifkdbidnf
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secondly, they can make the wolves require an extra ML for their win
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i know hel would be killed
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thirdly, hel is a townclear and that's not what they want in Lylo
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one more thing
2:07 p.m.
since tracker is gone by tonigh
2:07 p.m.
tonight
2:07 p.m.
yesterday tracking one of the other 3 wouldve been a better choice
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tracking literally anyone would be just as good
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mostly the other three
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it's a 1 in 6 chance of hitting a redcheck
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okay but why did we kill pixel
2:08 p.m.
i was going to tell yall not to vote
2:08 p.m.
but i came in a little late
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Zen
okay but why did we kill pixel
because it was better than voting on me?
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if we didnt vote pixel
2:09 p.m.
we would have had more people today
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NOT Aeroyi
because it was better than voting on me?
i mean was it?
2:09 p.m.
they were town
2:09 p.m.
u might not be town
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now we are at a dead end
2:10 p.m.
catsit
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Zen
i mean was it?
Yes?
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one more thing
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I already said
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yesterday who said voting someone out would help tracker
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Aeo didn't visit anybody
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star
yesterday who said voting someone out would help tracker
that's what we did, yes
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ace! ★
Aeo didn't visit anybody
okay but that doesn't mean they're clear?
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rolecop is still here i believe
2:11 p.m.
but if they did a fractional kill, wouldnt both mafia been seen moving?
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star
but if they did a fractional kill, wouldnt both mafia been seen moving?
uh
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Zen
okay but that doesn't mean they're clear?
Kinda does bc Hel died. And if they didn't cost anyone that means they aren't rc or or maf
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Mafia rolecop would probably just carry both actions
2:11 p.m.
so one mafia would be motion less
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okay but why would rolecop even check anyone?
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which means the goon could have not moved
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both doctor and tracker were outted
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while the rolecop did the killing
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Zen
okay but why would rolecop even check anyone?
There's no reason why they wouldn't
2:12 p.m.
because if the role cop is carrying the factional kill it's not like they're getting outted less
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NOT Aeroyi
There's no reason why they wouldn't
they could get seen by tracker?
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one more thing i want to bring up though
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Zen
they could get seen by tracker?
either way one mafia is going to be trackable
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how did you guys townlead afk and camryn
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NOT Aeroyi
because if the role cop is carrying the factional kill it's not like they're getting outted less
true
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because they still need to carry the kill
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either way
2:13 p.m.
aeo
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just based on evidence they gave?
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i distrust you more now ngl
2:14 p.m.
lets ignore that for now
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why wouldn't you correct ace on it clearing u if u were town
2:14 p.m.
like what
2:14 p.m.
i know u don't wanna go out
2:14 p.m.
but we should be making all the info clear
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what are you even asking
2:14 p.m.
before we get into that
2:15 p.m.
how did you guys townlead afk and camryn
2:15 p.m.
townlean
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ig cuz they're active and solving the game the most?
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but they never doubted each other?
2:16 p.m.
from what i saw
2:16 p.m.
both afk and camryn have sussed each other a fair bit
2:16 p.m.
but idk if anything serious
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which means not a lot
2:16 p.m.
and they both gave so much evidence on day 1
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they've both played before I think
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but gone on day 2
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afk was very active d2 no?
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but camryn wasnt
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camryn not as much
2:17 p.m.
but like just cuz ur not full active doesn't insta mean
2:17 p.m.
bad
2:17 p.m.
anyways i wanna
2:17 p.m.
go back to this
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NOT Aeroyi
what are you even asking
so aeo i'm not asking anything atm
2:18 p.m.
just
2:18 p.m.
so
2:18 p.m.
tracker tracked you last night
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yes
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i think most people knew u would be tracked as you even shouted it
2:18 p.m.
therefore u probs know that too
2:18 p.m.
so
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I get what you're saying
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since there's 2 mafia alive
2:19 p.m.
you being tracked doesn't really clear you at all
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You believe that asking to be tracked lessens the value of being tracked in the first place
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so then i have 2 questions
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NOT Aeroyi
You believe that asking to be tracked lessens the value of being tracked in the first place
yes this, why did u do this and waste our track?
2:19 p.m.
and also
2:19 p.m.
if u know this too
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(I was secretly hoping that Ace did not track me and instead used it as cover)
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why didn't you start off by clarifying this with ace over just pretending you were semi cleared cuz of it?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:20 p.m.
yo
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NOT Aeroyi
Yes?
like what
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because that'd ruin the whole point of it?
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NOT Aeroyi
because that'd ruin the whole point of it?
no i mean
2:20 p.m.
today
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What?
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not yesterday that's a whole diff thingy
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NOT Aeroyi
because it was better than voting on me?
but here u start talking like semi confirmed
2:21 p.m.
for some reason
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Yes
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Zen
both afk and camryn have sussed each other a fair bit
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:21 p.m.
idt this is necessarily true i j said full town clearing afk and not including them in pairing discussions etc is not smart
2:21 p.m.
bc we dont know for sure if they r town
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
idt this is necessarily true i j said full town clearing afk and not including them in pairing discussions etc is not smart
mhm
2:21 p.m.
das fairs
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:21 p.m.
i never outright sussed afk i j said we shouldnt treat them as town cleared
2:21 p.m.
when they arent
2:22 p.m.
cam can i ask ur view on what aeo just did
2:22 p.m.
cuz i feel like
2:22 p.m.
this is just
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:22 p.m.
lemme read up LMFAOOO
2:22 p.m.
why would u do this
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Zen why are you talking like I just dayvigged Ace or something
2:22 p.m.
like
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i mean u wasted our last tracker then try to use it as proof to inno urself?
2:23 p.m.
like
2:23 p.m.
what
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why are you so mad about it?
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should i not be sus of that?
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i mean i was too
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I was pretty frustrated at that point to be fair
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Zen
okay but why did we kill pixel
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:23 p.m.
hel had some theory
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I mean it wasn't a great move
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:23 p.m.
ab how they were the best vote
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star
why are you so mad about it?
oh dw am not mad (sorry if that's what it seems like)
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:23 p.m.
it was me afk and hel that were online i can try to find it
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i do get a bit bitchy when confronting people
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
it was me afk and hel that were online i can try to find it
i did read it but i just didn't fully get it
2:24 p.m.
probs cuz i had pixel pegged as town
2:24 p.m.
so
2:24 p.m.
ig
2:24 p.m.
idk
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Pixel had a very low amount of content
2:25 p.m.
and a lot of people felt like everyone else was townier than Pixel
2:25 p.m.
that's basically the bottom line of it
2:25 p.m.
poor pixel
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I mean that's what happens if you don't put enough time into the game
2:26 p.m.
is still sade tho
2:26 p.m.
but anyways
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:26 p.m.
i mean idt we should get mad at aeoliae here if anything its hel that fucked up for pub announcing who they would track LOL
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:27 p.m.
like lemme find it but hel was telling ace
2:27 p.m.
who to track
2:27 p.m.
publicly
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i mean idt we should get mad at aeoliae here if anything its hel that fucked up for pub announcing who they would track LOL
i mean true too but aeo literally yells it otu at day end sob
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hel was not tracker
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:27 p.m.
star
2:27 p.m.
pls read
2:27 p.m.
im begging u
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read what
2:27 p.m.
im reading
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
like lemme find it but hel was telling ace
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:27 p.m.
!
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star
read what
they're saying hel told ace who to track not
2:27 p.m.
ye
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sorry then
2:28 p.m.
i read it wrong
2:28 p.m.
is oki
2:32 p.m.
i reread
2:32 p.m.
can i say something
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:40 p.m.
yes
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wait hold on
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:41 p.m.
ur g LOL
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im backreading starting from day Q
2:41 p.m.
day 1
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how did you guys townlead afk and camryn
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:41 p.m.
reading up but ive been saying the same thing ftr
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just to check something
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:41 p.m.
we shouldnt be getting insta cleared bc we posted the most theories
2:41 p.m.
LOL
2:42 p.m.
also remember at the reallyyyy start of day 1
2:42 p.m.
zenith asked for claims
2:42 p.m.
so far everyone who has claimed turned out to be town
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
yes but we r excluding afk in this analysis which is why its not apparent to me. like even if u think afk is town shouldnt it still be wise to try and read who they could be partnered with
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:42 p.m.
this
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but afk did not claim
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:44 p.m.
ill do an iso reading on afk later today im at work until 7 est, ftr if ppl wanna do that on me as well feel free but its rly stupid to write off afk bc they post a lot when its clear they have maf experience
2:45 p.m.
if im honest here
2:45 p.m.
the most suspicious i feel is afk and zen
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the most suspicious i feel is afk and zen
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:47 p.m.
hmmm from briefly skimming afk has sussed zen a shitton
2:48 p.m.
idk if it would make sense if they were paired unless afk is committing to distancing
2:48 p.m.
but also they were sussed zen on the fact that they believed pixel/zen could be a scum pair
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seems like it
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-28 2:48 p.m.
lets say afk and zen were maf
2:48 p.m.
afk would know pixel would flip town
2:49 p.m.
and by their own read it would clear zen bc theyve been pushing a pixel/zen potential scumteam
2:49 p.m.
its still possible for both to be scum together based off that yea
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ok i checked votes
2:51 p.m.
they have never voted for each other
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it seems that zen might also have guessed that ace was tracker besides hel
3:54 p.m.
before the end of day 1
3:54 p.m.
zenith, zen, ace, and me was there
3:55 p.m.
zen talked about tracker
3:55 p.m.
which means mafia attacked tracker assuming there was no doctor
3:55 p.m.
but hel (doctor) knew what was going to happen, so they protected ace
3:56 p.m.
and zenith got lynched as town
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star
they have never voted for each other
idk if i've even voted anyone besides zenith and aeo
4:08 p.m.
lmao
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zen talked about tracker
also what
4:08 p.m.
i did?
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ace! ★
bc if tracker tracks doc itll eb messy
oh yeah up here
4:09 p.m.
that was so confusing ngl
4:10 p.m.
bleh it sucks 2 mafia are left
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Zen
oh yeah up here
So ironic that littersly happened
4:13 p.m.
because after that ace got attacked
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i mean it is true that i commented on what ace said but imma be real i didn't pick up that they were tracker at that point
4:14 p.m.
i was just confused why they were like
4:14 p.m.
hmm maybe is this role and that role
4:14 p.m.
and when afk came in on day 2
4:14 p.m.
they ignored that
4:15 p.m.
and then blamed pixelad
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tbf at the time i was also tryna handle a stress vote in the org but ya know
4:16 p.m.
i mean everyone did still read that even if they didn't respond
4:16 p.m.
idk
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i'm still kinda locked on aeo
4:16 p.m.
but idk who 2nd maf would be for me
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and you said you were in another game
4:17 p.m.
but there is only 1
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and you said you were in another game
the org?
4:17 p.m.
or
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that's in a whole different server hun
4:17 p.m.
it's not even mafia
4:17 p.m.
it's a bg
4:19 p.m.
okay but wait
4:19 p.m.
am i just too tunneled on aeo or is this normal or what
4:19 p.m.
cuz why hasn't anyone else brought up what they did
4:19 p.m.
i feel like it just
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screams sus
4:20 p.m.
welp anyways
4:21 p.m.
i'll be off for the next few hours focusing on org and friends (maybe some in between msgs here tho)
4:21 p.m.
so ping me if u need me <3
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:23 p.m.
hm
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wow
10:24 p.m.
It looks like someone was typing but then didn't know what to say
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:26 p.m.
main events that happened sod d3 -lylo -ace tracked aeo -zen onto aeo -star convo
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NOT Aeroyi
It looks like someone was typing but then didn't know what to say
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:27 p.m.
reply to your pings please???
10:27 p.m.
d2??
10:28 p.m.
I'll start from star convo
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I don't have the ability to easily see pings
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:37 p.m.
..what?
10:38 p.m.
there's 2 ways for u to do that -inbox or search
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thats why i said not to lynch yesy
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:39 p.m.
I'll get back to this later -- got a couple things to say
10:41 p.m.
also lemme just do a recap quickly for @star -ace has been mentioning tracker nonstop since d1 -anyone who iso'ed ace would know that -- there's nothing from ace other than that -sod d2 ace said hel visited them -hel claimed doc and hel is doc
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the mafia listened to what hel said
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:44 p.m.
do u mean maf was one of the ppl who voted pixel by this or maf was reading hel's msges closely ?? if it was the first then it doesn't match up with what you said next, but first makes more sense to me -- if second then by my previous msg maf doesn't need to do that
10:45 p.m.
can you explain this part of chat -- can't rly follow with ur thoughts
10:45 p.m.
oh
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
also lemme just do a recap quickly for @star -ace has been mentioning tracker nonstop since d1 -anyone who iso'ed ace would know that -- there's nothing from ace other than that -sod d2 ace said hel visited them -hel claimed doc and hel is doc
i know
10:46 p.m.
but its not as much noticeable
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do u mean maf was one of the ppl who voted pixel by this or maf was reading hel's msges closely ?? if it was the first then it doesn't match up with what you said next, but first makes more sense to me -- if second then by my previous msg maf doesn't need to do that
no, i meant the mafia is listening very closely to hel
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star
yesterday tracking one of the other 3 wouldve been a better choice
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:46 p.m.
who's in the other 3 here hel told ace to choose from aeo/zen but aeo screamed at ace to track aeo
10:47 p.m.
also that was if pixel was maf
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can you explain this part of chat -- can't rly follow with ur thoughts
the thing is, if no one asked, mafia might not have known that helvaria cant self heal
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who's in the other 3 here hel told ace to choose from aeo/zen but aeo screamed at ace to track aeo
you, camryn, or zen
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:47 p.m.
then they would most likely be the other maf
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thing is pixel isnt maf
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:48 p.m.
also aeo telling ace to track them was not a good move imo
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so far everyone thats been outted has claimed town citizen since d1
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also aeo telling ace to track them was not a good move imo
this
10:48 p.m.
if rolecop does all the work, then the goon wouldnt be seen moving
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i was going to tell yall not to vote
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:49 p.m.
if we didn't vote anyone hel's just gonna die for nothing???
10:49 p.m.
we're trying to get maf out as soon as possible
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if we didn't vote anyone hel's just gonna die for nothing???
seriously
10:50 p.m.
i said yesterday not today
10:50 p.m.
if hel expected to die, then that means we all knew there will be less people
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yesterday who said voting someone out would help tracker
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:50 p.m.
yes cuz it narrows down the list for tracker and tracker might be able to track maf which gives us important info!!
10:51 p.m.
but thats not even important
10:51 p.m.
tracker would’ve died 2 nights after anyways
10:51 p.m.
so they could only track one person
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now we are down to if we vote off a town we lose
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so one mafia would be motion less
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:52 p.m.
if aeo is maf idk why they would clear this up
10:52 p.m.
but its helpful
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if yesterday we didnt launch, we still would’ve gotten tracker info, but we would have one extra person
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lynch not launch
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and then we would’ve been able to vote someone off today
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based on what we got from tracker
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yes, more people = harder for tracker, but less people = harder for town
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how did you guys townlead afk and camryn
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:54 p.m.
how would you put your list rn from town to maf?
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you all just thought about how the pr would have a easier time, but never considered that the prs would day within 1-2 nights
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die not day
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sorry
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too many typos
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how would you put your list rn from town to maf?
if i were to be real, i suspect you and zen the most
10:55 p.m.
not really camryn or aeo
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but they never doubted each other?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:55 p.m.
i did doubt camryn because cam was less active in d2 but not much cuz i have cam as town
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and they both gave so much evidence on day 1
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:56 p.m.
point?
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point?
point is you guys might be mafia, but giving more info to sound town
10:57 p.m.
the only option right now is to either vote off someone, or leave it as it is
10:57 p.m.
voting off someone comes with a risk though
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why are you so mad about it?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:57 p.m.
actually true lol zen is the only one onto aeo here ???
10:58 p.m.
but also why is no one else on aeo now -- ill get back on this too later
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but also why is no one else on aeo now -- ill get back on this too later
i want to know that somewhat
10:58 p.m.
originally i was going to vote off aeo yesterday
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:58 p.m.
if u read my msges d1 you can see that i said i trust it more to be first come first serve
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but it somehow flipped to pixel
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:59 p.m.
and the list was already 5-6 ppl
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:59 p.m.
and everyone would claim that they're town
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so someone lied
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:59 p.m.
so its pointless
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and everyone would claim that they're town
at least we have an idea
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:59 p.m.
and against what i think personally
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so far everyone who has claimed turned out to be town
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 10:59 p.m.
lmao what
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the most suspicious i feel is afk and zen
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:00 p.m.
why me and zen?
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why me and zen?
could say camyrn too
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lmao what
wdym what, scroll up and check
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they have never voted for each other
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:01 p.m.
I have only voted 2 ppl in this game by this logic i can be paired with 3 other ppl here ??? also i want to bring up the fact that u skipped voting both days here
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I have only voted 2 ppl in this game by this logic i can be paired with 3 other ppl here ??? also i want to bring up the fact that u skipped voting both days here
because i dont want to random lynch
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it seems that zen might also have guessed that ace was tracker besides hel
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:04 p.m.
^^anyone who reads chat would know pretty mad at ace for outting themselves so early in the game lol and outting doc d2 W tracker
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^^anyone who reads chat would know pretty mad at ace for outting themselves so early in the game lol and outting doc d2 W tracker
anyone would have known at that exact time?
11:05 p.m.
well since they are outted, we cant do much about it
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and zenith got lynched as town
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:05 p.m.
i've talked about this before, if you'd like to discuss more about this we can discuss it -- reply to my d2 post on this topic
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i've talked about this before, if you'd like to discuss more about this we can discuss it -- reply to my d2 post on this topic
where
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they ignored that
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:05 p.m.
did i???
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and then blamed pixelad
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:05 p.m.
what
11:05 p.m.
please read my posts or explain more on how u got there
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but its not as much noticeable
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:06 p.m.
no?????
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what
zenith/pixelad
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no?????
maybe for you
11:07 p.m.
then who do you suspect the most
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the thing is, if no one asked, mafia might not have known that helvaria cant self heal
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:12 p.m.
huh? how does that even relate -wdym by testing hel to see if they were actually doc before killing -yeah i did ask hel about that but that was only because at that point we have ace/hel outted and one of them is gonna die, i assumed hel would put use doc on ace but i thought what if hel used it on themselves? for the short games on bots/irl games i play, doc can self heal -- just wanted hel to live ong -maf could probably just check info or ask laga that and know anyways?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:12 p.m.
oh yeah i can see how u got to me and zen now
11:12 p.m.
but that doesn't rly put aeo out of the list d2
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huh? how does that even relate -wdym by testing hel to see if they were actually doc before killing -yeah i did ask hel about that but that was only because at that point we have ace/hel outted and one of them is gonna die, i assumed hel would put use doc on ace but i thought what if hel used it on themselves? for the short games on bots/irl games i play, doc can self heal -- just wanted hel to live ong -maf could probably just check info or ask laga that and know anyways?
ok
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:13 p.m.
we only know that after d2 ended??
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but that doesn't rly put aeo out of the list d2
that is cant help
11:13 p.m.
i*
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we only know that after d2 ended??
i did suggest not voting
11:13 p.m.
but everyone said it “helps” the tracker
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:13 p.m.
yes so aeo could simply tell the other maf to do the killing
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yes so aeo could simply tell the other maf to do the killing
yeah this
11:14 p.m.
but zen on top of the list
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:16 p.m.
thanks so much for replying (serious)catsit
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you’re welcome
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:16 p.m.
@NOT Aeroyi
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you just happened to be online when i am
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:16 p.m.
if you're not busy pls respond to pings
11:16 p.m.
i replied a lot to ur msges d2
11:16 p.m.
with questions
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and stuff
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then who do you suspect the most
this
11:17 p.m.
i kind of want a list of opinions
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:17 p.m.
yesterday i said aeo/pix/zen
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so aeo and zen
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:17 p.m.
since pix is town aeo/zen
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what about camryn
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:18 p.m.
but hel also said that aeo/zen is less possible
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but hel also said that aeo/zen is less possible
thats true
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:18 p.m.
that's why we included camryn
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zen started suspecting aeo
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weird
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but ok
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that's why we included camryn
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:18 p.m.
but that's only cuz aeo/zen doesn't seem that possible
11:18 p.m.
its not actually sussing on camryn
11:19 p.m.
my top suspect is aeo
11:19 p.m.
for plenty of reasons
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would understand that
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:20 p.m.
and the fact that they still haven't replied to me on d2 (only selectively replied to one of my posts???)
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this is so much harder than the shorter mafia games pepemeltdown
11:20 p.m.
especially because i have to guess from the way of talking
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:44 p.m.
okay sorry was busy just now
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@NOT Aeroyi
YES
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:44 p.m.
back for a bit but i gtg for lunch later -- i'll try to reply as much as i can
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NOT Aeroyi
YES
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:44 p.m.
?
11:44 p.m.
yes?
11:45 p.m.
okay fine i'll link the msges for you
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:46 p.m.
ok i still want to ask about this
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:46 p.m.
your reply to me but that doesn't rly clear up anything to me
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:47 p.m.
d2 pings starting from here
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I think I already did
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I don't want to talk about my read on star anymore really because it hits some touchy topics
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:48 p.m.
uhm
11:49 p.m.
ok just reply to other pings idk there's a bunch
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A continuity error is an inconsistency. i.e: Player A claims to have read thread, but then acts like they don't, or Player B knows what a doctors does but didn't 1 hour earlier
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They're free clears?
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NOT Aeroyi
A continuity error is an inconsistency. i.e: Player A claims to have read thread, but then acts like they don't, or Player B knows what a doctors does but didn't 1 hour earlier
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:50 p.m.
aren't u inconsistent
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I responded to each post
11:50 p.m.
that should show my thought process
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I responded to each post
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:50 p.m.
yeah but only halfway
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again, my star read has evolved drastically
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wait aeo
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:50 p.m.
i don't see the rest of d1/d2
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who do you suspect
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something with a point (idk what the context is)
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I am saying that if Star is town self voting is probably one of the most pathetic moves they can make
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:51 p.m.
this
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I mean yeah, that would make sense
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the doctors dead
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I would ML sleep
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NOT Aeroyi
I am saying that if Star is town self voting is probably one of the most pathetic moves they can make
okay tbh with you
11:52 p.m.
i really want to out myself
11:52 p.m.
cause i cant with this game
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(If this is responding to what I think it is) that you guys should all stop assuming I'd play suboptimally as wolf and start thinking logically
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No? Because they aren't useful?
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also before day 2 ended, i was there
11:53 p.m.
but because majority was reached, the day ended
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but its not as much noticeable
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:53 p.m.
actually it is, i feel like u should acknowledge that first before going on your trail of thoughts -- not gonna continue on this anymore
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while i was typing something
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can we skip sleep?
Yes, but why? (In this current state, although at that time it would be perfectly acceptable either way)
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no, i meant the mafia is listening very closely to hel
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:54 p.m.
already included my statement for the latter
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either pixel or aeo
0/2 solve
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Helvaria
I am blessed with the ability to save anyone I wish, but not myself. Perhaps these are realities of society.
classic not non-consec doctor problems
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the thing is, if no one asked, mafia might not have known that helvaria cant self heal
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:54 p.m.
wait i think i've already replied to this and the next msg
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yes but there's no reasons backing up the poe other than "others being more towny"
there is and it's linked with each post
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if rolecop does all the work, then the goon wouldnt be seen moving
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:54 p.m.
yes exactly
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Its not one post that makes or breaks it; it's multiple
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:54 p.m.
so tracking aeo does not affect anything
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over a span of the entire game
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:55 p.m.
oh unless aeo/zen are maf
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no matter what we do now, ace will die
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you have to look at the world holistically in order to see the bigger picture
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:55 p.m.
and aeo wants tracker on them to make sure who kills hel next???
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so its a matter of affect of voting or not
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:55 p.m.
omg
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sorry just replying
yeah you are though tbh
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so its a matter of affect of voting or not
effect
11:55 p.m.
god my spelling
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a lot of these questions are just to scrutinize me, not to understand my perspective
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hold on guyz
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i said yesterday not today
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:55 p.m.
huh..?
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wait we can skip sleep?
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Zen
Seems way smarter than how they're playing
wdym
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huh..?
yesterday lynching wasn’t necessary
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Being smart logically and being good at social deduction are very separate skillsets
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this is still a decent reason to townread someone but okay
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Wrong pronouns + Yes that is true mainly because I am being chronically tinfoiled, although also I think that I have been struggling to read around all the PRs
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thank you
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what
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:58 p.m.
ok lets say we don't lynch anyone d2 we would have zenith and hel out only for d3 we still would not have any progress since we don't know if pixel is maf or not -- for me i would still have pixel on my list and go for pixel which doesn't do anything since pixel is also not rly defending themself and that makes me more suspiscious on them??
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that's not dodging the question. That denying it to begin with.
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no one ever pushes truly randomly
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you guys all think I am insane at this game or something
11:59 p.m.
I'm not that good
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:59 p.m.
isn't it because the prs are going to die that we need to at least narrow down the list for tracker?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-28 11:59 p.m.
why not?
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ok lets say we don't lynch anyone d2 we would have zenith and hel out only for d3 we still would not have any progress since we don't know if pixel is maf or not -- for me i would still have pixel on my list and go for pixel which doesn't do anything since pixel is also not rly defending themself and that makes me more suspiscious on them??
at least we have more people to figure out who to lynch off
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like, I may have played over 50 games of forum mafia, but my mafia winrate is still 22% on my MU account and my town winrate is about 32% combined
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:00 a.m.
honestly i think maf could've just try to get on our good side without giving any info d1
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huhhhhh????
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isn't it because the prs are going to die that we need to at least narrow down the list for tracker?
but whats the point exactly? in the end they still could only track one person
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:01 a.m.
why didn't u vote aeo then (or did u idk)
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why didn't u vote aeo then (or did u idk)
i did, but then i unvoted
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:03 a.m.
one of the reasons we did not want to vote aeo yet is because aeo could give us more info if aeo talks d3 - - unlike pixel/zen who won't give much info for us in chat -- my top sus was aeo - also the most possible groups d2 were pix/aeo or pix/zen -- pix was in both so i felt better voting pix than aeo/zen -- smth like that??
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:04 a.m.
ofc
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ofc
that means camryn
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:04 a.m.
umm we've established d1 that zenith's idea wouldn't work
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umm we've established d1 that zenith's idea wouldn't work
what idea, im not talking about role revealing
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Allow me to reiterate. To answer that question would be breaking game integrity rules. Trying to make a read based off of that is Angleshooting, also breaking game integrity rules. Not answering that question is the right thing to do in every scenario, because if you don't then it's not even a game of mafia anymore. If you don't, you say that it is acceptable to break rules to benefit you. If you don't refuse to answer the question, you show your true colors of your moral character, and it also will make people not want to play with you again. And if you're wondering why I am being very absolute with this, it's because that's the standard on Mafia Universe (MU) and 17th shard, and I believe it is very important to maintain regardless of where you are.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:05 a.m.
where's aeo in this? no more sus on aeo?
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thank you
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star is a very easy push imo their playstyle and personality makes them very easy to chainsaw for a wolf
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gut reads aren't even read smh
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:06 a.m.
d1 or d2 d1 - yes ok i get your point d2??
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:06 a.m.
do we have 48 hrs still
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most of them are based on evidence
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oh i am an easy target
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this is the tracker stuff btw
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d1 or d2 d1 - yes ok i get your point d2??
d2 if we didnt lynch, we would have 7 rn
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:07 a.m.
when is 'that exact time'?
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NOT Aeroyi
gut reads aren't even read smh
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:07 a.m.
ya i mean gut reads always develop from the behavior of others and assessing it but sometimes u assess it subconsciously and dont know why u feel a certain way
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:07 a.m.
i would think so
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
when is 'that exact time'?
d1
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no like, I understand why you want to self vote, I'm just saying that you need to develop a way with dealing with that which doesn't hinder the game
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:08 a.m.
wait lemme bump some posts
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:08 a.m.
^
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Okay???
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no like, I understand why you want to self vote, I'm just saying that you need to develop a way with dealing with that which doesn't hinder the game
for what
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:09 a.m.
^
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I never said I wasn't
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you reply to me but it's all just tinfoil
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that's a great question
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:09 a.m.
nooo half of these r saying message could not be loaded
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NOT Aeroyi
Being smart logically and being good at social deduction are very separate skillsets
yeah ofc but it's more so you seem good and experienced at sdgs and that's why i called u smart not book smart
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
and aeo wants tracker on them to make sure who kills hel next???
what?
12:10 a.m.
I have gone over this multiple times
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NOT Aeroyi
Wrong pronouns + Yes that is true mainly because I am being chronically tinfoiled, although also I think that I have been struggling to read around all the PRs
oop sry about the pronouns which do u prefer?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ya i mean gut reads always develop from the behavior of others and assessing it but sometimes u assess it subconsciously and dont know why u feel a certain way
idk some people are good at gut reads
12:11 a.m.
I'm just not that great at them
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yeah ofc but it's more so you seem good and experienced at sdgs and that's why i called u smart not book smart
Like, if I say "Optimal play is <thing>" that does not relate at all to my ability to decieve all of you
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oop sry about the pronouns which do u prefer?
oh yeah I haven't specified have I
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:12 a.m.
they have roles u can get in the server
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for pronouns
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if u want
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but n e ways im trying to read back replies and discord hates me i cant
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idk @[𝙰𝙵𝙺] what's going on
12:13 a.m.
like you say that I am a wolf, yet you are more focused on swaying everyone else that way
12:14 a.m.
And half the time when you respond to me it does not show any thinking
12:14 a.m.
only conclusions
12:14 a.m.
like you wrote the end of the book before even writing
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oh yeah I haven't specified have I
yaa still sorry tho <3
12:15 a.m.
pat pat
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
but n e ways im trying to read back replies and discord hates me i cant
uh
12:15 a.m.
I don't know how to fix that
12:16 a.m.
getting message links is much more difficult though
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Like, if I say "Optimal play is <thing>" that does not relate at all to my ability to decieve all of you
yes but it's like watching an athlete or semi pro play compared to watching someone who doesn't do it much
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Allow me to reiterate. To answer that question would be breaking game integrity rules. Trying to make a read based off of that is Angleshooting, also breaking game integrity rules. Not answering that question is the right thing to do in every scenario, because if you don't then it's not even a game of mafia anymore. If you don't, you say that it is acceptable to break rules to benefit you. If you don't refuse to answer the question, you show your true colors of your moral character, and it also will make people not want to play with you again. And if you're wondering why I am being very absolute with this, it's because that's the standard on Mafia Universe (MU) and 17th shard, and I believe it is very important to maintain regardless of where you are.
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:16 a.m.
i get ur point but th moral character line is taking me out this is discord mafia blurry_crying
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i get ur point but th moral character line is taking me out this is discord mafia blurry_crying
my bad
12:16 a.m.
I probably overstepped that one
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is kinda hard to explain btu u notice a difference and they have like a different "mood" about them and they play better too obvi
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like
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plus like u replied to not to long ago u did kinda teach me and others a fair bit
12:18 a.m.
like don't get me wrong i don't think ur the god mafia player or anything
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just
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plus like u replied to not to long ago u did kinda teach me and others a fair bit
that is true
12:18 a.m.
But I mean other players have helped you too, namely Camryn and Helveria
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:18 a.m.
r u leaning towards vting aeoliae here zen?
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just more subtly
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i think ur better town than u are at acting town is how i felt
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Zen
i think ur better town than u are at acting town is how i felt
I don't think you could say "I'm a better town"
12:19 a.m.
because as a wolf
12:19 a.m.
I do not townside
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
r u leaning towards vting aeoliae here zen?
i mean i was already not too viby with them since day 2 but after how it ended yea
12:19 a.m.
i still am confused why no one else has brought that d2 end and d3 start up
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I don't think you could say "I'm a better town"
like
12:19 a.m.
hm
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star
where
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:20 a.m.
idk where it was but I'll just say it again -i felt like zenith lynch had maf in it and maf could've just jumped on zenith since eod d1 or that maf just left it up to town for mislynch (for this my guess is maf is either in the 5 way tie d1 but doesn't feel threatened or maf wasn't in the tie) -d1 wagon was zen, pixel, ace okay so this was said during d2 so this thought could just be wrong -since pixel and ace are town -that leaves zen and zen started the wagon -zen could be maf voting zenith just to make the ppl in lynch list more or just want to add to the confusion -but hel also said they had 2 votes (which meant they would be first to be lynched off) and zen did not jump on the wagon on hel -zen could just do that to not be sussed on though imo
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u know the motions of being town
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I still think best course of action is to sleep this cycle
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:20 a.m.
hm something to note is that zen/afk could be paired here based on day 3 behavior
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zenith/pixelad
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:20 a.m.
wdym and what did i ignore
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
hm something to note is that zen/afk could be paired here based on day 3 behavior
That's a reach there's a lot of banter between them though
12:20 a.m.
I feel like AFK would rather just, not talak
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:21 a.m.
i thnk ur misunderstanding me lolz
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but zen on top of the list
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:21 a.m.
they just need one person to do the killing so if they make sure ace tracks aeo then zen can do the killing
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I still think best course of action is to sleep this cycle
i mean is always better
12:21 a.m.
we do lose ace probs every time
12:21 a.m.
but
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:21 a.m.
im not saying they are 300% paired im j saying that they are a potential team based on interactions
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we get more talk time
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:21 a.m.
and i think zen/aeoliae r p obviously not paired here
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i kind of want a list of opinions
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:21 a.m.
i do give it every day omg
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:21 a.m.
unless that was staged
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
unless that was staged
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:22 a.m.
but i highly doubt it was
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I mean who am I left to be paired with
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like
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Star?
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:22 a.m.
thinking oBJECTIVELY me probs me
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No, because of the d2 events
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:22 a.m.
LOL
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if it's star then sobs
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
idk where it was but I'll just say it again -i felt like zenith lynch had maf in it and maf could've just jumped on zenith since eod d1 or that maf just left it up to town for mislynch (for this my guess is maf is either in the 5 way tie d1 but doesn't feel threatened or maf wasn't in the tie) -d1 wagon was zen, pixel, ace okay so this was said during d2 so this thought could just be wrong -since pixel and ace are town -that leaves zen and zen started the wagon -zen could be maf voting zenith just to make the ppl in lynch list more or just want to add to the confusion -but hel also said they had 2 votes (which meant they would be first to be lynched off) and zen did not jump on the wagon on hel -zen could just do that to not be sussed on though imo
oh ok
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I don't think it's star
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
they just need one person to do the killing so if they make sure ace tracks aeo then zen can do the killing
well then ok
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if it is I will be taken away
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i mean surely not right
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star what?
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it's not worth considering
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NOT Aeroyi
it's not worth considering
well it's not complete write off
12:24 a.m.
but
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It is, Zen
12:24 a.m.
it is a complete write off
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:24 a.m.
its bad practice to write off anyone
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probs better to think more abt after we get first maf
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:24 a.m.
when weve been wrong every round lmfao
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
its bad practice to write off anyone
^
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Star is the one player I will be writing off
12:25 a.m.
and I will be right
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what does writing off mean
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:25 a.m.
wow ur like rly smart ^_^
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what does writing off mean
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:25 a.m.
it means they think ur town and wont bother sussing u
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what does writing off mean
not considering posibility of them being wolf to make things exponentially simpler
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NOT Aeroyi
not considering posibility of them being wolf to make things exponentially simpler
thats very advanced, but okay
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AFK, Camryn, Zen, Star and Ace remain
12:26 a.m.
Ace and star are both town
12:26 a.m.
so now I have to look
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which leaves 3
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:26 a.m.
what is happening
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:26 a.m.
ive been sayingggg a zen/afk team
12:26 a.m.
!!!!
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@camryn (✿◠‿◠) Do you think AFK/Zen is viable
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
what is happening
We're putting the wolves in a box
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ive been sayingggg a zen/afk team
this one makes sense
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a very small box
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but i guess we can all agree on zen?
12:27 a.m.
ok
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AFK first
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damn star has it out for me
12:27 a.m.
lmao
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
but also they were sussed zen on the fact that they believed pixel/zen could be a scum pair
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:27 a.m.
read from here down aeo
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don't vote yet
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though
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so
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wait
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more things need to be considered
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tbh with you
12:28 a.m.
if i was mafia
12:28 a.m.
i would not kill off tracker
12:28 a.m.
i would kill off the ones who talk most
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:28 a.m.
what-
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what-
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um
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star
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because they will be more likely to get it
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the tracker is like an innocent child here we KNOW they are town
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im statin
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that's like
12:28 a.m.
a
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no i meant
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if i were mafia
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i would not kill the tracker
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yeah
12:28 a.m.
I mean it depends
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high chances are, they might track the wrong person
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because your partner would probably say otherwise
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But I mean I could see you leaving the doc alive
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that's the smartest thing
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:29 a.m.
star i fear u r tweaking w that take
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waiting to see what wall AFK is cooking up
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:29 a.m.
😭
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star
high chances are, they might track the wrong person
right but killing others off just lessens the susupected people
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waiting to see what wall AFK is cooking up
oh god they have been typing a while
12:30 a.m.
ur right
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
star i fear u r tweaking w that take
im doing it on purpose
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:30 a.m.
like ok
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also, my pfp is a seal because I lost a bet to stett in mafia champs spec chat
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star is iconic at least?
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Zen
right but killing others off just lessens the susupected people
it does, but it also confuses the town
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also, my pfp is a seal because I lost a bet to stett in mafia champs spec chat
cute
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star
it does, but it also confuses the town
yeah
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also, my pfp is a seal because I lost a bet to stett in mafia champs spec chat
oh nice
12:30 a.m.
its cute
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star
it does, but it also confuses the town
i think that might work better in a speed or live game
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:31 a.m.
LIST OF ALIVE PLAYERS camryn (✿◠‿◠) Zen Aeoliae Ace! star [𝙰𝙵𝙺]
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i was wondering why you changed it
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Zen
cute
this is what I make people's pfps into: https://imgur.com/km0OLsl
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:31 a.m.
omg
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here we'd have too long to clear stuff up
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also omg
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that's
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
LIST OF ALIVE PLAYERS camryn (✿◠‿◠) Zen Aeoliae Ace! star [𝙰𝙵𝙺]
that's all...?
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lmao
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Zen
i think that might work better in a speed or live game
it might, but it also might work out
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:31 a.m.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
LIST OF ALIVE PLAYERS camryn (✿◠‿◠) Zen Aeoliae Ace! star [𝙰𝙵𝙺]
also yeah i was expectng a bomb too
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that's all...?
that is all
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:31 a.m.
afk writing the player list
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:31 a.m.
like why aren't we considering aeo in the list
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they were pondering
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Zen
awful
I have an imagr file of just random cursed things like this https://imgur.com/hQMl6wu
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I have an imagr file of just random cursed things like this https://imgur.com/hQMl6wu
cute
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like why aren't we considering aeo in the list
why are we not considering you
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Zen
cute
no
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why are we not considering you
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:32 a.m.
never said we can't
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it's wrong
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why are we not considering you
aren't we considering both
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am confused
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:32 a.m.
but im saying we should consider u too
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never said we can't
AFK, how are you more towny than me though
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
like why aren't we considering aeo in the list
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:32 a.m.
wdym havent they been pushed by u and zen here
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like i feel like ppl r considering it
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LOL
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like
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AFK
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Who is my partner if I am scum
12:33 a.m.
your poe may be the size of an ocean, but it has the depth of a puddle
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wouldn't it be cam or afk
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:33 a.m.
star or me probs looking from afks pov
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AFK, how are you more towny than me though
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:33 a.m.
how am i supposed to answer you that
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in my pov im most towny
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how am i supposed to answer you that
I want to hear your logic
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:33 a.m.
???
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your poe may be the size of an ocean, but it has the depth of a puddle
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:33 a.m.
lets not be rude tho lol like b serious
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tell me why I should townread you
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your poe may be the size of an ocean, but it has the depth of a puddle
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:33 a.m.
i sent the list of alive players, not my poe
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what's poe again
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
i sent the list of alive players, not my poe
oh lol
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Who is my partner if I am scum
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:34 a.m.
zen
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:34 a.m.
process of elimination
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what's poe again
pool of elimination
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:34 a.m.
oh-
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
zen
Hasn't zen voted on me, and pushed me?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:34 a.m.
huh i thought it was people of elim
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:34 a.m.
so
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star or me probs looking from afks pov
Froggie_Yes
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Hasn't zen voted on me, and pushed me?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:34 a.m.
idk??
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isn't that weirdly unpairing behavoir?
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3 diff ones
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:34 a.m.
didn't zen push you
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wait
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i read that wrong mb that's what u asked
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Hasn't zen voted on me, and pushed me?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:35 a.m.
yes
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but that could just be distancing
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anyways, back to the question
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
but that could just be distancing
that's not how this game works
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that's not how this game works
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:35 a.m.
what
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dont get nervous
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Why should I find you town
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:36 a.m.
you should find that ur self u can find me anything
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AFK, stop deflecting the question. How should I find you town
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:37 a.m.
by me trying to do my best in this game??
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how?
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How does that correlate to your wincon?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:38 a.m.
i played this game seriously and came up with lots of reads to try to find maf??
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also wasted a lot of time in doing that
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rereading chat
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replying
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you admitted you could only find one
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:38 a.m.
whatever
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Still
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:38 a.m.
i even give reasons for everything
12:38 a.m.
and
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you have none here?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:39 a.m.
?
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I'll be honest, I don't find you towny
12:39 a.m.
So prove to me that you're town
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:40 a.m.
my wincon is to eliminate all maf, as im not a pr i can only do reads and interact with others, and try to get info from these, what else do u want
12:40 a.m.
why don't u try to prove ur town
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why don't u try to prove ur town
Sure
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NOT Aeroyi
I'll be honest, I don't find you towny
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:41 a.m.
from where
12:42 a.m.
why do u find me maf
12:43 a.m.
am i not gonna meet the up
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uh*
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There are no viable wolfteams that make sense if I am a mafia; Everyone has pushed me and put me in substantial danger before, and while you could pass that off as distancing, that's irrationally improbable. Additionally, I have tried to guide the town and the players to reach the correct conclusions, rather than doing it for them, like when I taught them optimal claiming play. If I was a wolf I would never do that. And on top of that, I also have a no motion scan on me, which does not clear me, but does put me in better standing than you.
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thing
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why do u find me maf
I've explained this countless times
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NOT Aeroyi
There are no viable wolfteams that make sense if I am a mafia; Everyone has pushed me and put me in substantial danger before, and while you could pass that off as distancing, that's irrationally improbable. Additionally, I have tried to guide the town and the players to reach the correct conclusions, rather than doing it for them, like when I taught them optimal claiming play. If I was a wolf I would never do that. And on top of that, I also have a no motion scan on me, which does not clear me, but does put me in better standing than you.
adding in on this though, because afk gave a lot of info on d1, everyone believes they are townleaned
12:44 a.m.
which is weird how they never got doubted
12:44 a.m.
at all
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:44 a.m.
aeo i will just say this the way ur approaching shit rn is incredibly abrasive and patronizing and i suggest u be a little bit nicer when u say shit like u can sus afk but the way ur coming at them and barraging is counter productive
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also hey, afk you're in the mafia remastered server too aworryPartyTime
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aeo i will just say this the way ur approaching shit rn is incredibly abrasive and patronizing and i suggest u be a little bit nicer when u say shit like u can sus afk but the way ur coming at them and barraging is counter productive
we should sleep today
12:45 a.m.
correct?
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can we skip the night
12:45 a.m.
or no
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is that possible
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We can skip to the night
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:45 a.m.
what does sleeping today mean
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either way, we know ace will die tonight
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
what does sleeping today mean
Voting no elimination/no lynch
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but if ace somehow lives, please track someone you are sure will visit
12:46 a.m.
dont waste the track
12:46 a.m.
pepe_leave
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:48 a.m.
what does sleeping do for us
12:49 a.m.
like wed be in the same scenario
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tomorrow
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lmfao
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with one dead
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lol
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
like wed be in the same scenario
Yes
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either way
12:49 a.m.
we gotta vote someone out
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it seems
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have to take the risk
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but we'd have 48 more hours to make the correct decision
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 12:50 a.m.
ohhh r we allowed to choose to sleep after these full 48 hrs pass
12:50 a.m.
i did not know that LOL
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There are no viable wolfteams that make sense if I am a mafia; Everyone has pushed me and put me in substantial danger before, and while you could pass that off as distancing, that's irrationally improbable. Additionally, I have tried to guide the town and the players to reach the correct conclusions, rather than doing it for them, like when I taught them optimal claiming play. If I was a wolf I would never do that. And on top of that, I also have a no motion scan on me, which does not clear me, but does put me in better standing than you.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:50 a.m.
-you keep talking about wolfteams but what if you're just betting on the fact that we don't know how to team people up and in that sense we would be less motivated to push u cuz u keep asking about it and idk where im going with this i can't organise my thoughts rn -doesn't it make more sense that people are suspecting u because ur maf? -anyone can teach/guide players doesn't matter if you're town or wolf and you're not the only one doing it? if you're maf it would just give you +town points but i don't think we should just base it on that cuz where are your thoughts for eod1 and d2? -no motion scan doesn't do much so why should it put u in a better standing?
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NOT Aeroyi
I've explained this countless times
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:51 a.m.
where? can u link it for me
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-you keep talking about wolfteams but what if you're just betting on the fact that we don't know how to team people up and in that sense we would be less motivated to push u cuz u keep asking about it and idk where im going with this i can't organise my thoughts rn -doesn't it make more sense that people are suspecting u because ur maf? -anyone can teach/guide players doesn't matter if you're town or wolf and you're not the only one doing it? if you're maf it would just give you +town points but i don't think we should just base it on that cuz where are your thoughts for eod1 and d2? -no motion scan doesn't do much so why should it put u in a better standing?
  • But you guys can. You've shown that ypu have the capacity to comp solve, Camyrn definitely has the best way to solve, and besides, you're still missing the point that it doesn't make sense if the most viable world is the one where my own teammate is pushing me.
  • I am trying to say that if I am mafia, I have to have a partner. Where is that partner?
  • Yes, true, I suppose so.
  • I mean you don't have a no motion scan so it's basic statistics imo
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which is weird how they never got doubted
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 12:54 a.m.
it is weird but its better to trust me than others cuz ik im town isn't it weirder that i was sussing aeo and now they're sussing me back when they did not say anything about sussing me earlier?
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more reading
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it is weird but its better to trust me than others cuz ik im town isn't it weirder that i was sussing aeo and now they're sussing me back when they did not say anything about sussing me earlier?
When was earlier?
12:54 a.m.
Yesterday at 5 in the morning?
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When you replied to me?
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it is weird but its better to trust me than others cuz ik im town isn't it weirder that i was sussing aeo and now they're sussing me back when they did not say anything about sussing me earlier?
not sure
1:00 a.m.
did everyone just disappear PEPEhmmsus
1:00 a.m.
im still energtic ):
1:06 a.m.
being honest
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i feel like even if we talk for another 1 week, we'll still be at the same place
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why not just take a risk and vote
1:07 a.m.
if mafia wins, then okay, they are really good gg
1:07 a.m.
if town wins, then gg,
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what we are all sure is that ace will die
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When was earlier?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:15 a.m.
before today, before u finally replied to my pings
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did everyone just disappear PEPEhmmsus
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:15 a.m.
im back
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before today, before u finally replied to my pings
I replied to them earlier too
2:15 a.m.
Before I hammered
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Smh
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:15 a.m.
what
2:15 a.m.
mb i did not see
2:15 a.m.
let me check
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Before I hammered
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:16 a.m.
i assume this is on star?
2:17 a.m.
i don't see anything?
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YES
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:18 a.m.
this was today (for me)
2:19 a.m.
before this there's no pings or any indication u think im maf
2:20 a.m.
if you don't know how to check just do this
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check
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:20 a.m.
what
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NOT Aeroyi
MY GOD CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN, LIKE, 15 TIMES IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE
Here
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:21 a.m.
that's replying to hel
2:21 a.m.
also i keep seeing you say you have written/replied but idk where u mean every time
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oh right
2:22 a.m.
I remembered I didn't want to deal with this game and then hammered
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:22 a.m.
???
2:22 a.m.
wdym u didn't want to deal with this game and hammered
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NOT Aeroyi
I replied to them earlier too
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:23 a.m.
anyways yeah can you just reply to those msges here
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
anyways yeah can you just reply to those msges here
I did already regardless
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wdym u didn't want to deal with this game and hammered
I saw that people were tinfoiling again
2:24 a.m.
So I decided to extinguish the fire
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anyways yeah can you just reply to those msges here
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:24 a.m.
can you reply to your msges to let me jump to your msges
2:24 a.m.
like this
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NOT Aeroyi
I saw that people were tinfoiling again
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:24 a.m.
what is tinfoiling
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
what is tinfoiling
That's like
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Paranoia
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Like
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So I decided to extinguish the fire
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:24 a.m.
i don't see how hammering solves the problem here
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
i don't see how hammering solves the problem here
I really thought pixel was a mafia
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And I didn't want town to go off course
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NOT Aeroyi
I really thought pixel was a mafia
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:26 a.m.
you hammered star though??
2:26 a.m.
wait huh
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What? No
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:26 a.m.
oh eod d2
2:27 a.m.
okay continue?
2:28 a.m.
idk what to say ugh
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I really thought pixel was a mafia
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:30 a.m.
ok yes we were hammering pixel because we thought they were maf -- checking back on convo, this convo is pointless and doesn't go anywhere -- i misunderstood what u meant by hammer
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Here
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:32 a.m.
so do you have anything else to like say about this since it was a post to hel
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I'm muting this channel now
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 2:32 a.m.
what
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main events that happened sod d3 -lylo -ace tracked aeo -zen onto aeo -star convo
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 3:40 a.m.
i've reread chat a couple times now -haven't had any time to get back on this (what im replying to) -had a lots of thoughts on d3 but i need time to organise them (probs tonight) -rly need to iso aeo because most of the things they say they did is very different from what i remember -i want to look into aeo/zen again and go through their posts -i sus both of them but if we're talking about pairs i'd need to rethink it since everyone says its impossible -if y'all can please just read my previous reads on aeo and zen cuz rn i only have my previous reads -a conclusion i have gotten to for now is that me and aeo are on different channels - the way i'd do things and the way they'd do things / or our thought processes/attitudes towards this game / are rly different which is one of the biggest issue for me cuz when i read their posts it just doesn't sit right with me -also kinda just tired with this chat today cuz i feel like aeo seems to be simply dismissing my points and pushing it back on me
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What if it's camryn + Zen?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 4:10 a.m.
then we should just vote zen out
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What if it's camryn + Zen?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-29 4:11 a.m.
any reasons or just poe
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then we should just vote zen out
this would be something we might all agree on
11:04 a.m.
im not dure
11:04 a.m.
sure
11:05 a.m.
we could take a risk and vote her off
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think p
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oop star hyper posting
2:07 p.m.
dammy
2:07 p.m.
conga rats
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then we should just vote zen out
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 2:10 p.m.
if zen is the common denominator here they r probs the best push yea ily tho zen 😭
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
if zen is the common denominator here they r probs the best push yea ily tho zen 😭
okay but in my view i'm mafia in literally none of the teams
2:23 p.m.
chad
2:23 p.m.
lmao
2:23 p.m.
but hm
2:23 p.m.
i'm not gonna get all rowdy abt it
2:23 p.m.
cuz
2:23 p.m.
bleh
2:24 p.m.
but for me is probs aeo with afk no?
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okay but in my view i'm mafia in literally none of the teams
camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 2:24 p.m.
a lot of the teams being discussed r me/u afk/u
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
a lot of the teams being discussed r me/u afk/u
wait why me and y'all
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 2:24 p.m.
idk afk and aeo threw it out
2:24 p.m.
lmfao
2:24 p.m.
😭
2:25 p.m.
okay damn
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 2:25 p.m.
thats why i said ur the common denominator but its still worth considering a star/aeo scum team
2:25 p.m.
so im not locked to it
2:26 p.m.
but pairing wise IMO
2:26 p.m.
the pairs that make sense r
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i mean i know am not the most active cuz busy with other stuffs (altho org just ended like an hour ago now so should be less busy besides work hopefully :> )
2:26 p.m.
but i do be trying
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-06-29 2:26 p.m.
aeo/star aeo/camryn afk/zen cam/zen
2:26 p.m.
even tho indont understand how
2:27 p.m.
ppl read u and me as paired LMFAOOO
2:27 p.m.
but its ok ^_^
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bleh maybe i am dumb
2:28 p.m.
cuz like i def feel right in the aeo stuff
2:29 p.m.
but i also have no clue who the other maf would be
2:29 p.m.
like obv not ace
2:29 p.m.
and idk people were pushing back so hard at even star mention of being evil and like that seems right to me too
2:29 p.m.
so like is just u and afk then
2:30 p.m.
and i have no reason to even suspect y'all either way but one of y'all should probs be evil
2:30 p.m.
oh well
2:30 p.m.
welp all i'm set on is it being aeo
2:31 p.m.
if that's somehow wrong and it's like cam and afk both thennn
2:31 p.m.
uh this game was lost anyways
2:31 p.m.
sobs
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I keep reading aeo as my name..
2:38 p.m.
aeo name too long to type every time lmao
2:38 p.m.
am a bit lazyy
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ace! ★
I keep reading aeo as my name..
do you have any clue?
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Zen
aeo name too long to type every time lmao
Oh dw!
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do you have any clue?
Absolutely not ill have to reread
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wellllll also
2:40 p.m.
can i say
2:40 p.m.
no matter who we vote off, it’s a gamble
2:40 p.m.
only the mafia knows what will happened
2:41 p.m.
to the town people, they dont know if they are voting off the right person
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ace! ★
Absolutely not ill have to reread
oof
2:41 p.m.
but anyways, no matter how much longer we discuss, its not like the mafia will change
2:41 p.m.
so the least we could do is vote based on evidence
2:41 p.m.
Pepeeat
2:42 p.m.
(which means just go with your guts)
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i mean from what i see afk is either maf or town personally
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ace! ★
i mean from what i see afk is either maf or town personally
gardewut
2:51 p.m.
isn't that
2:51 p.m.
the only two roles
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thats not
2:52 p.m.
answering anything though
2:52 p.m.
FLOOFconfusion
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so the least we could do is vote based on evidence
also star we should just use all our discussion time
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im saying shes nulled fully to me
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no need to rush the vote
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ace! ★
im saying shes nulled fully to me
ohhh that makes more sense
2:52 p.m.
lmao
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im trying to think based off what ive seen
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also star we should just use all our discussion time
ok
2:53 p.m.
even if you’re dying though ace
2:54 p.m.
do talk
2:54 p.m.
catsit
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it could be aeo; bc they had be track them , they knew they woudl just do nothing, but i dont think so. i think they were being a bitter town saying that
2:54 p.m.
could be very wrong
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thats true
2:55 p.m.
thats why that track was a little wasted
2:56 p.m.
ig mafia knew what was happening
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ace! ★
it could be aeo; bc they had be track them , they knew they woudl just do nothing, but i dont think so. i think they were being a bitter town saying that
i mean maybe but if it was just bitter town
2:57 p.m.
then i don't get
2:57 p.m.
why they started today of
2:57 p.m.
with like
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tryna clear themselves
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with that useless track
2:58 p.m.
like
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that's
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beyond bitter town if u ask me
2:58 p.m.
esp with a 24hr break in between too
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tough decision
3:01 p.m.
CATbang
3:01 p.m.
the people who died have a easier time catsit
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Zen
but for me is probs aeo with afk no?
What?
3:03 p.m.
That's like
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impossibel
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The most bizarre pairing you could make
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impossible
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for me its one or the othe r
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The most bizarre pairing you could make
imagine all that fighting catto_ohmy
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That's like saying "Ace + Star is the wolf team"
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NOT Aeroyi
That's like saying "Ace + Star is the wolf team"
thats insane
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ace! ★
for me its one or the othe r
who?
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NOT Aeroyi
That's like saying "Ace + Star is the wolf team"
plot teist we are
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no joke but
3:04 p.m.
mafia probably laughing at us so bad rn catto_ohmy
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day 3 and we still haven’t even gotten 1 mafia out
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What?
eh either way i could see it being u with either afk or cam
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no clue who cuz i don't really fucking know other maf like i said
3:06 p.m.
but for you aeo
3:06 p.m.
yeah
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im starting to wonder if this is really a newcomer game pepemeltdown
3:06 p.m.
the sp was easier at some point
3:07 p.m.
i mean it's very newbie friendly i think
3:07 p.m.
deaths are all revealed
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not for me pepemeltdown
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easy scripts
3:07 p.m.
idk
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i only play games with actions
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would have been worse if no roles revealed on death
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the ones with no actions, i suck pepemeltdown
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the ones with no actions, i suck pepemeltdown
hugs
3:08 p.m.
kinda same but with more
3:08 p.m.
actual gameplay ones
3:08 p.m.
over just action based ones like tos
3:08 p.m.
actually catching people in the act is so much more of a thrill
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Zen
deaths are all revealed
Why would they not
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NOT Aeroyi
Why would they not
in short games they arent
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I played 1 flipless game (witch hunt) and they are just different
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NOT Aeroyi
Why would they not
cuz in other games u can have them not be
3:09 p.m.
?
3:09 p.m.
wut
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Yeah
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other games have wills
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But I mean it's uncommon, right
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and if they dont write it, cant help
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NOT Aeroyi
But I mean it's uncommon, right
nopeee
3:09 p.m.
its very common catto_ohmy
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NOT Aeroyi
But I mean it's uncommon, right
uhh not really for video game sdg
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other games have wills
Ohhhh so that's how they get around the flipless obstacles
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it's way more common to have nothing
3:09 p.m.
in those
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Ohhhh so that's how they get around the flipless obstacles
yeah, the roles could be chosen to be revealed
3:09 p.m.
but no fun in that
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I played a game where it was supposed to be flipless but it wasn't
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you’ve never played the mafia bot on discord?
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i mean most video games i play have it be more like
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That and it was basically 4 wolves versus 200 town in the form of the unholy Abomination
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you know someone did die
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but not who
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or what role they were
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i know if you play flicker it doesnt
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(roblox one)
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and you basically need to talk to people to figure it outs
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you’ve never played the mafia bot on discord?
Not really? I'm more of a longform player
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Not really? I'm more of a longform player
ohh
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That and it was basically 4 wolves versus 200 town in the form of the unholy Abomination
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3:10 p.m.
that sounds pain
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you should try the short ones
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Zen
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It was no contest in the end
3:11 p.m.
The host was kind
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you should try the short ones
I've played many turbos on MU and they are quite difficult
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idk what those are
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shortform games require much different skills than longform ones and I have huge respect for people who play them
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but there is a mafia bot on discord (like this one) and they host short ones
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idk what those are
Short games ~10 players that last about an hour in length
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the few mafia speeds i've played i've always been pretty drunk
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Short games ~10 players that last about an hour in length
the one im talking about is 25 players lasting 30 minutes to 2 hours
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and it makes it pretty funs
3:13 p.m.
like 1-2 hour games
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im currently in one
3:13 p.m.
i died pepemeltdown
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i suck at gaslighting frogtea
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shortform games require much different skills than longform ones and I have huge respect for people who play them
they are easier, with more roles that give info
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they are easier, with more roles that give info
Meh
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im joking
3:14 p.m.
i died like 700 times
3:14 p.m.
im so done
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they normally end up really cursed
3:15 p.m.
Like
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There was one game where 40% of rhe players were millers, which was a 0.0625% chance There was one game where my wolf buddy contacted me unknowingly because he didn't see I was a lost wolf
3:16 p.m.
Do any of you play on Mafia.gg?
3:19 p.m.
no
3:19 p.m.
wait
3:19 p.m.
whats mafia.gg
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a website
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i don'ttt either
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...
11:41 p.m.
vore sleep
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Do any of you play on Mafia.gg?
Like 5 games
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-30 8:07 a.m.
Catongue
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Do any of you play on Mafia.gg?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-30 8:07 a.m.
its dead lol
8:09 a.m.
i actually went there to see if i could join any quick games then found out its dead
8:10 a.m.
that was before i joined this server
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but there is a mafia bot on discord (like this one) and they host short ones
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-30 8:11 a.m.
yess its more fun
8:16 a.m.
oh right prods
8:16 a.m.
haven't been on all day
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haven't been on all day
tbf i don't think really anyone has 💀
8:21 a.m.
we all decided we'd be very active the first 24hrs
8:21 a.m.
and now super quiet lol
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its dead lol
have u heard of 5up
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-30 8:25 a.m.
no
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I played a bunch of games on M.gg with a bunch of 5uppers and it was really fun
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-30 8:26 a.m.
what is that
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5 up community discord server
8:26 a.m.
I think it's a place dedicated to an amongii streamer?
8:27 a.m.
i used to watch some of their vids when the amogus craze was all abouts
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Yeah
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-30 8:28 a.m.
oh
8:28 a.m.
i played mafia.gg with some online friends before back when we didn't need to log in to play
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-06-30 11:05 a.m.
gn guys Sip
11:09 a.m.
night
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yess its more fun
have you played on it? ive never seen you in the server
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Zen
and now super quiet lol
i think we all gave up catsit
12:05 p.m.
if we skip the day, isnt it just going to be the same, but with one less person? FLOOFconfusion
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why not take the risk and vote someone out pepeHmm
12:41 p.m.
star loves gamba
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star loves gamba
Froggie_Yes
1:48 p.m.
winning or losing doesnt do much anyways
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a few seconds left
1:59 p.m.
froggiesip
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-06-30 2:30 p.m.
EOD
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-01 1:42 p.m.
Start of Day 4
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-07-01 1:42 p.m.
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-01 2:00 p.m.
@Alive Line NE speak
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here we are
2:01 p.m.
back again
2:01 p.m.
pepemeltdown
2:01 p.m.
everyone disappeared nom
2:02 p.m.
sungni_dance2
2:04 p.m.
so cute
2:04 p.m.
FrogConfetti
5:06 p.m.
come on, someone give info pepemeltdown
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okay
7:24 p.m.
who's alive
7:24 p.m.
who's dea
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NOT Aeroyi
who's alive
you. me, zen, camyrn, afk
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NOT Aeroyi
who's dea
everyone else is dead
9:30 p.m.
more time to talky talks
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Eow
9:33 p.m.
Don't vote pls
9:57 p.m.
why do you keep saying to not voe
9:57 p.m.
vote
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i don't want to be prodded
10:00 p.m.
that's literally all
10:03 p.m.
anyways
10:03 p.m.
let's make sure we vote today tho pls
10:03 p.m.
like
10:03 p.m.
d3
10:04 p.m.
i was the only one who actually had a registered vote 💀
10:04 p.m.
if i was mafia there town would have just lost
10:04 p.m.
so
10:04 p.m.
pls
10:04 p.m.
remember to vote this time around
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i don't want to be prodded
i dont think we would
1:32 a.m.
pepeHmm
1:32 a.m.
can ask laga
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-02 1:41 a.m.
the rules for prods have not changed
1:41 a.m.
it’s still 20 messages per 24 hours
1:43 a.m.
and Zen’s method of writing one word per line ^^^ FacepalmLmao
1:43 a.m.
is not the solution
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oh yeah but
1:43 a.m.
that's just
1:44 a.m.
how i normally type
1:44 a.m.
lmao
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-02 1:44 a.m.
So do I
1:44 a.m.
sometimes
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
it’s still 20 messages per 24 hours
Still game related or not
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should be yea?
1:53 a.m.
why would it change
1:54 a.m.
Idk
1:54 a.m.
I'm just trying to reach the post min
1:54 a.m.
Meow
1:54 a.m.
kitty cat
1:54 a.m.
kirbypat
1:55 a.m.
I've been told this is void
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who's void
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A player from mu
1:56 a.m.
We were wolfing together once
1:56 a.m.
And he changed his pfp to a catboy maid
1:56 a.m.
And it pocketed everyone and
1:56 a.m.
We won
1:56 a.m.
the ultimate tactic
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and then on another game that was ongoing at the same time
1:57 a.m.
He won on his alt account literally called meow meow
1:58 a.m.
1:58 a.m.
Which prompted this
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Still game related or not
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-02 1:59 a.m.
They need to be game related
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
They need to be game related
PART ONE Chapter 1 It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. Winston Smith, his chin nuzzled into his breast in an effort to escape the vile wind, slipped quickly through the glass doors of Victory Mansions, though not quickly enough to prevent a swirl of gritty dust from entering along with him. The hallway smelt of boiled cabbage and old rag mats. At one end of it a coloured poster, too large for indoor display, had been tacked to the wall. It depicted simply an enormous face, more than a metre wide: the face of a man of about forty-five, with a heavy black moustache and ruggedly handsome features. Winston made for the stairs. It was no use trying the lift. Even at the best of times it was seldom working, and at present the electric current was cut off during daylight hours. It was part of the economy drive in preparation for Hate Week. The flat was seven flights up, and Winston, who was thirty-nine and had a varicose ulcer above his right ankle, went slowly, resting several times on the way. On each landing, opposite the lift-shaft, the poster with the enormous face gazed from the wall. It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that the eyes follow you about when you move. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, the caption beneath it ran.
2:01 a.m.
Inside the flat a fruity voice was reading out a list of figures which had something to do with the production of pig-iron. The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely. He moved over to the window: a smallish, frail figure, the meagreness of his body merely emphasized by the blue overalls which were the uniform of the party. His hair was very fair, his face naturally sanguine, his skin roughened by coarse soap and blunt razor blades and the cold of the winter that had just ended. Outside, even through the shut window-pane, the world looked cold. Down in the street little eddies of wind were whirling dust and torn paper into spirals, and though the sun was shining and the sky a harsh blue, there seemed to be no colour in anything, except the posters that were plastered everywhere. The black-moustachio'd face gazed down from every commanding corner. There was one on the house-front immediately opposite. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, the caption said, while the dark eyes looked deep into .
2:01 a.m.
Winston's own. Down at street level another poster, torn at one corner, flapped fitfully in the wind, alternately covering and uncovering the single word INGSOC. In the far distance a helicopter skimmed down between the roofs, hovered for an instant like a bluebottle, and darted away again with a curving flight. It was the police patrol, snooping into people's windows. The patrols did not matter, however. Only the Thought Police mattered. Behind Winston's back the voice from the telescreen was still babbling away about pig-iron and the overfulfilment of the Ninth Three-Year Plan. The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live--did live, from habit that became instinct--in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized
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PART ONE Chapter 1 It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. Winston Smith, his chin nuzzled into his breast in an effort to escape the vile wind, slipped quickly through the glass doors of Victory Mansions, though not quickly enough to prevent a swirl of gritty dust from entering along with him. The hallway smelt of boiled cabbage and old rag mats. At one end of it a coloured poster, too large for indoor display, had been tacked to the wall. It depicted simply an enormous face, more than a metre wide: the face of a man of about forty-five, with a heavy black moustache and ruggedly handsome features. Winston made for the stairs. It was no use trying the lift. Even at the best of times it was seldom working, and at present the electric current was cut off during daylight hours. It was part of the economy drive in preparation for Hate Week. The flat was seven flights up, and Winston, who was thirty-nine and had a varicose ulcer above his right ankle, went slowly, resting several times on the way. On each landing, opposite the lift-shaft, the poster with the enormous face gazed from the wall. It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that the eyes follow you about when you move. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, the caption beneath it ran.
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-02 2:02 a.m.
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Surely this is not 1984 again right
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-02 2:02 a.m.
okay now I prolly have more posts than most players
2:02 a.m.
carry on
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carry on
Winston kept his back turned to the telescreen. It was safer; though, as he well knew, even a back can be revealing. A kilometre away the Ministry of Truth, his place of work, towered vast and white above the grimy landscape. This, he thought with a sort of vague distaste--this was London, chief city of Airstrip One, itself the third most populous of the provinces of Oceania. He tried to squeeze out some childhood memory that should tell him whether London had always been quite like this. Were there always these vistas of rotting nineteenth-century houses, their sides shored up with baulks of timber, their windows patched with cardboard and their roofs with corrugated iron, their crazy garden walls sagging in all directions? And the bombed sites where the plaster dust swirled in the air and the willow-herb straggled over the heaps of rubble; and the places where the bombs had cleared a larger patch and there had sprung up sordid colonies of wooden dwellings like chicken-houses? But it was no use, he could not remember: nothing remained of his childhood except a series of bright-lit tableaux occurring against no background and mostly unintelligible. The Ministry of Truth--Minitrue, in Newspeak [Newspeak was the official language of Oceania. For an account of its structure and etymology see Appendix.]--was startlingly different from any other object in sight. It was an enormous pyramidal structure of glittering white concrete, soaring up, terrace after terrace, 300 metres into the air. From where Winston stood it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face in elegant lettering, the three slogans of the Party: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
2:04 a.m.
Winston turned round abruptly. He had set his features into the expression of quiet optimism which it was advisable to wear when facing the telescreen. He crossed the room into the tiny kitchen. By leaving the Ministry at this time of day he had sacrificed his lunch in the canteen, and he was aware that there was no food in the kitchen except a hunk of dark-coloured bread which had got to be saved for tomorrow's breakfast. He took down from the shelf a bottle of colourless liquid with a plain white label marked VICTORY GIN. It gave off a sickly, oily smell, as of Chinese rice-spirit. Winston poured out nearly a teacupful, nerved himself for a shock, and gulped it down like a dose of medicine. Instantly his face turned scarlet and the water ran out of his eyes. The stuff was like nitric acid, and moreover, in swallowing it one had the sensation of being hit on the back of the head with a rubber club. The next moment, however, the burning in his belly died down and the world began to look more cheerful. He took a cigarette from a crumpled packet marked VICTORY CIGARETTES and incautiously held it upright, whereupon the tobacco fell out on to the floor. With the next he was more successful. He went back to the living-room and sat down at a small table that stood to the left of the telescreen. From the table drawer he took out a penholder, a bottle of ink, and a thick, quarto-sized blank book with a red back and a marbled cover.
2:04 a.m.
strictly kept, because there were various things, such as shoelaces and razor blades, which it was impossible to get hold of in any other way. He had given a quick glance up and down the street and then had slipped inside and bought the book for two dollars fifty. At the time he was not conscious of wanting it for any particular purpose. He had carried it guiltily home in his briefcase. Even with nothing written in it, it was a compromising possession. The thing that he was about to do was to open a diary. This was not illegal (nothing was illegal, since there were no longer any laws), but if detected it was reasonably certain that it would be punished by death, or at least by twenty-five years in a forced-labour camp. Winston fitted a nib into the penholder and sucked it to get the grease off. The pen was an archaic instrument, seldom used even for signatures, and he had procured one, furtively and with some difficulty, simply because of a feeling that the beautiful creamy paper deserved to be written on with a real nib instead of being scratched with an ink-pencil. Actually he was not used to writing by hand. Apart from very short notes, it was usual to dictate everything into the speak-write which was of course impossible for his present purpose. He dipped the pen into the ink and then faltered for just a second. A tremor had gone through his bowels. To mark the paper was the decisive act. In small clumsy letters he wrote:
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aeo has gone mental
2:05 a.m.
lmao
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April 4th, 1984. He sat back. A sense of complete helplessness had descended upon him. To begin with, he did not know with any certainty that this was 1984. It must be round about that date, since he was fairly sure that his age was thirty-nine, and he believed that he had been born in 1944 or 1945; but it was never possible nowadays to pin down any date within a year or two. For whom, it suddenly occurred to him to wonder, was he writing this diary? For the future, for the unborn. His mind hovered for a moment round the doubtful date on the page, and then fetched up with a bump against the Newspeak word DOUBLETHINK. For the first time the magnitude of what he had undertaken came home to him. How could you communicate with the future? It was of its nature impossible. Either the future would resemble the present, in which case it would not listen to him: or it would be different from it, and his predicament would be meaningless.
2:05 a.m.
water like a porpoise, then you saw him through the helicopters gunsights, then he was full of holes and the sea round him turned pink and he sank as suddenly as though the holes had let in the water, audience shouting with laughter when he sank. then you saw a lifeboat full of children with a helicopter hovering over it. there was a middle-aged woman might have been a jewess sitting up in the bow with a little boy about three years old in her arms. little boy screaming with fright and hiding his head between her breasts as if he was trying to burrow right into her and the woman putting her arms round him and comforting him although she was blue with fright herself, all the time covering him up as much as possible as if she thought her arms could keep the bullets off him. then the helicopter planted a 20 kilo bomb in among them terrific flash and the boat went all to matchwood. then there was a wonderful shot of a child's arm going up up up right up into the air a helicopter with a camera in its nose must have followed it up and there was a lot of applause from the party seats but a woman down in the prole part of the house suddenly started kicking up a fuss and shouting they didnt oughter of showed it not in front of kids they didnt it aint right not in front of kids it aint until the police turned her turned her out i dont suppose anything happened to her nobody cares what the proles say typical prole reaction they never----
2:06 a.m.
wound several times round the waist of her overalls, just tightly enough to bring out the shapeliness of her hips. Winston had disliked her from the very first moment of seeing her. He knew the reason. It was because of the atmosphere of hockey-fields and cold baths and community hikes and general clean-mindedness which she managed to carry about with her. He disliked nearly all women, and especially the young and pretty ones. It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy. But this particular girl gave him the impression of being more dangerous than most. Once when they passed in the corridor she gave him a quick sidelong glance which seemed to pierce right into him and for a moment had filled him with black terror. The idea had even crossed his mind that she might be an agent of the Thought Police. That, it was true, was very unlikely. Still, he continued to feel a peculiar uneasiness, which had fear mixed up in it as well as hostility, whenever she was anywhere near him.
2:06 a.m.
The next moment a hideous, grinding screech, as of some monstrous machine running without oil, burst from the big telescreen at the end of the room. It was a noise that set one's teeth on edge and bristled the hair at the back of one's neck. The Hate had started. As usual, the face of Emmanuel Goldstein, the Enemy of the People, had flashed on to the screen. There were hisses here and there among the audience. The little sandy-haired woman gave a squeak of mingled fear and disgust. Goldstein was the renegade and backslider who once, long ago (how long ago, nobody quite remembered), had been one of the leading figures of the Party, almost on a level with Big Brother himself, and then had engaged in counter-revolutionary activities, had been condemned to death, and had mysteriously escaped and disappeared. The programmes of the Two Minutes Hate varied from day to day, but there was none in which Goldstein was not the principal figure. He was the primal traitor, the earliest defiler of the Party's purity. All subsequent crimes against the Party, all treacheries, acts of sabotage, heresies, deviations, sprang directly out of his teaching. Somewhere or other he was still alive and hatching his conspiracies: perhaps somewhere beyond the sea, under the protection of his foreign paymasters, perhaps even--so it was occasionally rumoured--in some hiding-place in Oceania itself.
2:07 a.m.
or Eastasia, since when Oceania was at war with one of these Powers it was generally at peace with the other. But what was strange was that although Goldstein was hated and despised by everybody, although every day and a thousand times a day, on platforms, on the telescreen, in newspapers, in books, his theories were refuted, smashed, ridiculed, held up to the general gaze for the pitiful rubbish that they were--in spite of all this, his influence never seemed to grow less. Always there were fresh dupes waiting to be seduced by him. A day never passed when spies and saboteurs acting under his directions were not unmasked by the Thought Police. He was the commander of a vast shadowy army, an underground network of conspirators dedicated to the overthrow of the State. The Brotherhood, its name was supposed to be. There were also whispered stories of a terrible book, a compendium of all the heresies, of which Goldstein was the author and which circulated clandestinely here and there. It was a book without a title. People referred to it, if at all, simply as THE BOOK. But one knew of such things only through vague rumours. Neither the Brotherhood nor THE BOOK was a subject that any ordinary Party member would mention if there was a way of avoiding it.
2:08 a.m.
of Asia, and Goldstein, in spite of his isolation, his helplessness, and the doubt that hung about his very existence, seemed like some sinister enchanter, capable by the mere power of his voice of wrecking the structure of civilization. It was even possible, at moments, to switch one's hatred this way or that by a voluntary act. Suddenly, by the sort of violent effort with which one wrenches one's head away from the pillow in a nightmare, Winston succeeded in transferring his hatred from the face on the screen to the dark-haired girl behind him. Vivid, beautiful hallucinations flashed through his :
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mind. He would flog her to death with a rubber truncheon. He would tie her naked to a stake and shoot her full of arrows like Saint Sebastian. He would ravish her and cut her throat at the moment of climax. Better than before, moreover, he realized WHY it was that he hated her. He hated her because she was young and pretty and sexless, because he wanted to go to bed with her and would never do so, because round her sweet supple waist, which seemed to ask you to encircle it with your arm, there was only the odious scarlet sash, aggressive symbol of chastity. The Hate rose to its climax. The voice of Goldstein had become an actual sheep's bleat, and for an instant the face changed into that of a sheep. Then the sheep-face melted into the figure of a Eurasian soldier who seemed to be advancing, huge and terrible, his sub-machine gun roaring, and seeming to spring out of the surface of the screen, so that some of the people in the front row actually flinched backwards in their seats. But in the same moment, drawing a deep sigh of relief from everybody, the hostile figure melted into the face of Big Brother, black-haired, black-moustachio'd, full of power and mysterious calm, and so vast that it almost filled up the screen. Nobody heard what Big Brother was saying. It was merely a few words of encouragement, the sort of words that are uttered in the din of battle, not distinguishable individually but restoring confidence by the fact of being spoken. Then the face of Big Brother faded away again, and instead the three slogans of the Party stood out in bold capitals
2:09 a.m.
this sub-human chanting of 'B-B!...B-B!' always filled him with horror. Of course he chanted with the rest: it was impossible to do otherwise. To dissemble your feelings, to control your face, to do what everyone else was doing, was an instinctive reaction. But there was a space of a couple of seconds during which the expression of his eyes might conceivably have betrayed him. And it was exactly at this moment that the significant thing happened--if, indeed, it did happen. Momentarily he caught O'Brien's eye. O'Brien had stood up. He had taken off his spectacles and was in the act of resettling them on his nose with his characteristic gesture. But there was a fraction of a second when their eyes met, and for as long as it took to happen Winston knew--yes, he KNEW!--that O'Brien was thinking the same thing as himself. An unmistakable message had passed. It was as though their two minds had opened and the thoughts were flowing from one into the other through their eyes. 'I am with you,' O'Brien seemed to be saying to him. 'I know precisely what you are feeling. I know all about your contempt, your hatred, your disgust. But don't worry, I am on your side!' And then the flash of intelligence was gone, and O'Brien's face was as inscrutable as everybody else's.
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automatic action. And it was no longer the same cramped, awkward handwriting as before. His pen had slid voluptuously over the smooth paper, printing in large neat capitals-- DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER over and over again, filling half a page. He could not help feeling a twinge of panic. It was absurd, since the writing of those particular words was not more dangerous than the initial act of opening the diary, but for a moment he was tempted to tear out the spoiled pages and abandon the enterprise altogether. He did not do so, however, because he knew that it was useless. Whether he wrote DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, or whether he refrained from writing it, made no difference. Whether he went on with the diary, or whether he did not go on with it, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed--would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper--the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed for ever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you.
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It was always at night--the arrests invariably happened at night. The sudden jerk out of sleep, the rough hand shaking your shoulder, the lights glaring in your eyes, the ring of hard faces round the bed. In the vast majority of cases there was no trial, no report of the arrest. People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: VAPORIZED was the usual word. For a moment he was seized by a kind of hysteria. He began writing in a hurried untidy scrawl: theyll shoot me i don't care theyll shoot me in the back of the neck i dont care down with big brother they always shoot you in the back of the neck i dont care down with big brother---- He sat back in his chair, slightly ashamed of himself, and laid down the pen. The next moment he started violently. There was a knocking at the door. Already! He sat as still as a mouse, in the futile hope that whoever it was might go away after a single attempt. But no, the knocking was repeated. The worst thing of all would be to delay. His heart was thumping like a drum, but his face, from long habit, was probably expressionless. He got up and moved heavily towards the door.
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# are we ready for chapter 2?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-02 6:20 a.m.
lmfao chat has derailed
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NOT Aeroyi
# are we ready for chapter 2?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-02 6:21 a.m.
yes
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come on, someone give info pepemeltdown
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-02 6:24 a.m.
ace died game hasn't ended star's crying zen's not prodded aeo's talking random stuff and im probably getting prodded again if i don't talk
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oh no
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should've sent that in several msges
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have you played on it? ive never seen you in the server
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-02 6:26 a.m.
yes
6:26 a.m.
pinged u in that server but u never responded 😭
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okay 8 messages
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we can do this
6:27 a.m.
got a bunch of hw to do so im just gonna try to reach 20 msges first Sip
6:29 a.m.
guess ill just tinfoil
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so my d1 d2 suspects were off
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hel and pixel
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lets say my d3 sus - aeo is wrong
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star/zen/cam
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i don't rly see cam as maf
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star/zen don't seem possible
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lmfao what am i doing
6:35 a.m.
how many ppl are left again
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5?
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ok what if i list out every possible combo
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then cross out from there
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cabbate , zenew , aeoliae , staururio , dswdbgsn
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cam/zen, cam/aeo, cam/star, cam/afk zen/cam, zen/aeo, zen/star, zen/afk aeo/cam, aeo/zen, aeo/star, aeo/afk afk/cam, afk/zen, afk/aeo, afk/star
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i feel like im doing mendel's law thing
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oh wait where did star's go
6:41 a.m.
cam/zen, cam/aeo, cam/star, cam/afk, zen/aeo, zen/star, zen/afk, aeo/star, aeo/afk, star/afk
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cam/zen, cam/aeo, cam/star, cam/afk, zen/aeo, zen/star, zen/afk, aeo/star, aeo/afk, star/afk
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-02 6:42 a.m.
y'all can use this
6:47 a.m.
THIS DOES NOT HELP ANYTHING 😭
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-02 6:58 a.m.
if i cross cam out then im left with zen/aeo, zen/star, aeo/star ~if i cross aeo then it leaves me with zen/star only but no ~zen/aeo is actually a bit weird and i don't rly trust to vote with zen but i also don't wanna cross out aeo cuz zen/star is a no -aeo/star maybe cuz of sure maf read to sure town read on star if i don't cross out cam idk
6:58 a.m.
i feel like things would be so much easier if we could cross out one person catsit
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then we'd have 2/3 chance
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ace died game hasn't ended star's crying zen's not prodded aeo's talking random stuff and im probably getting prodded again if i don't talk
yes i am crying pepemeltdown
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
pinged u in that server but u never responded 😭
OH DID YOU
11:38 a.m.
i probably didnt see, sorry catsit
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star/zen don't seem possible
right
11:38 a.m.
ive been thinking and thinking
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i feel like things would be so much easier if we could cross out one person catsit
oh nom
11:40 a.m.
i thought about it last night
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and mine were pike
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like
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zen/cam aeo/cam
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its one of the two
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because if you realized, cam hasnt talked at all since this day started
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she only provided a lot of details on d1
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then on d2 it was okay amount
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on d3 she has way less than both d1 and d2 combined
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and then on d4 she hasnt shown up yet
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at this point, we will just have to randomly vote based on majority pepeHmm
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no voting = lose
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voting has a 50% chance of lynching a mafia and 50% chance of lynching a town
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and if im being fr, the day ends at tmr at 1 pm for me, might not make it in time frogtea
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haii y'all
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just got home from works
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and i see we're abts nowhere lmao
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and i'm still getting sussed even tho i could have insta won it for maf if i wanted yesterday Amogus
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okay
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but anyways
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idk i'm still set on aeo
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unless fucking
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afk and cam have masterminded this so hard and it's both of them
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but like
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surely fucking not
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and ig if it is then well done to them
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either way am probs voting aeo unless something big happens
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Zen
either way am probs voting aeo unless something big happens
what about aeo/cam
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froggiesip
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the more that i think about it
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aeo fought with each of us using facts except cam
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and afk doesnt show mafia vibes because they check in almost every day
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still has aeo chad
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so voting aeo
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plus i dont think a mafia will spend everytime writing paragraphs
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Zen
still has aeo chad
Froggie_Yes
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idk we'll have more time to figure out 2nd maf esp on who they kill
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if we get 1
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dont vote just yet
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cuz now whoever they kill would reveal a lot
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dwdw i won't
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because we cant remove our votes
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am waiting
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just saying
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waht am doing
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so is known
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and not like a last min
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wth why u voting them
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i think im dying next lol pepe_popcorn
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kinda deal
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i think im dying next lol pepe_popcorn
i mean
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probs yeah
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or me
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if we kill aeo
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well im talking too much nom
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eh if anyone is talking too much it's afk lmao
3:05 p.m.
well then
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aeo/cam would be more
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HMM
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well hopefully cam can come on and talk game a bit more
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because now that i think about it, i think aeo has sussed me, you, and afk
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but not really cam?
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since they've been very quiet
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i mean i know cam talked a lot on d1
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but now they are so quiet
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but not really cam?
ig but tbf aeo seems to be way more
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and they both have 2 prods
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nom
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retaliatory than the aggressor
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idk if that's mafia like or town like
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or null
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idk
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well i could say why
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but they're way more counter attacky it seems
3:07 p.m.
which is cool cuz they're not just goign brrr brr on everyone all the time (altho they kinda did anyways)
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but is also
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not cool
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cuz a town should
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tryna solve the game and accusing peeps
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AA_Keqing_Think
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eh
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idk
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aeo
  • they are quick to reply to everything against them with reasoning that sometimes doesnt make any sense
  • asked for a track (1000%) sure mafia wouldve known about goon’s actions and not showing up in the track
  • posting whatever for the last days
  • keeps saying not to vote
3:09 p.m.
i mean voting would mean prods
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but there are mid game prods too
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PEPEhmmsus
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plus its 20 messages per 24 hours
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it was only like a few hours in yet they are really worried about prods
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sus
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also they keep saying not to vote (i mean if we vote wrong person = mafia wins)
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seems they dont wanna take a gamble like me frogtea
3:12 p.m.
seems like they are pushing for town not to vote at all
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which results in an automatic mafia win awkward
3:16 p.m.
aw man, everyone disappeared on me again pepemeltdown
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aw man, everyone disappeared on me again pepemeltdown
kirbypat
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seems they dont wanna take a gamble like me frogtea
lmao u really wanted to vote lots
3:24 p.m.
how come?
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like
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a lot
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oh because i dont really care who wins
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lots of things
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if mafia wins, good job aworryPartyTime
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you trolled us all
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if town wins
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good job for a tough end aworryPartyTime
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fair enoughss
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am just glad we're more calm now
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than
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the
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i mean it doesnt benefit us much if we win or not
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shouty shouts
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its just an experience
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is just for funs
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o star
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do u like
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no matter which side wins, at least we learned something from each orher
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majora's mask
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?
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majora’
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?
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Zen
is just for funs
Froggie_Yes
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have reorch song from it
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froggiesip
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is a zelda game
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my fav
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FLUFFcry
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is really good i recommend playing it even if u don't enjoy typical zelda games
3:27 p.m.
or maybe watching a video essay on it
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SailorMoonSmile
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oh right
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what do you work as? froggiesip
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i work in a
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im kind of bored now that everyone is gone pepeHmm
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big tool/hobby shop
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thats cool
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i mean is just basic works
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but i enjoy it
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lovely people i work with
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and customers are mostly nice
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unlike when u work in grocery stores
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im kind of introverted pepemeltdown
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cuz people act wanna go to the tool/hobby shop most of the time they go
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compared ot grocery where they need to go
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if u get it
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im kind of introverted pepemeltdown
hugs hugs
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if u don't wanna be introverted
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Zen
compared ot grocery where they need to go
ohh
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Froggie_Yes
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u can grow out of it
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i did
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but it's easier said than done tbh
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u kinda just need to fake being an extrovert
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till u become one
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real reason is my parents want me to pick up the phones
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PEPEhmmsus
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so do we all agree on aeo?
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nom
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real reason is my parents want me to pick up the phones
lmao
3:34 p.m.
pats
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Zen
pats
pepemeltdown
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so do we all agree on aeo?
and lmao idk if literally anyone but me does
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everyone always seems so against it
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but that's what my heart be screaming
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so
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idk
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im not that sure either
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hard to tell since out of us 5, only 3 are town PEPEhmmsus
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would be easier for mafia to identify whose the other one frogtea
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originally i had an idea to figure out who the other towns are
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but i think it backfired
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pepeHmm
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what happened
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because the two mafias might be suspicious of each other in here
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but in their private chat they might be plotting something big
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HMMM
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yeaahhh at this point idt mafia wouldn't have like attacked each other at least once
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cuz that'd stick out more
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probs
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oh crabby
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well who are we voting
11:53 p.m.
HMMM
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i love talking to myself pepemeltdown
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just a warning beforehand
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if no one gives any info before the day ends
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im just going to random vote
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pepeHmm
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because no voting is an automatic lose
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and thats no fun
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and beware, we cant unvote pepeHmm
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i love talking to myself pepemeltdown
lmao
12:09 a.m.
at least someone’s here
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lets say my d3 sus - aeo is wrong
oh btw how is this wrong
12:10 a.m.
and who are you even doubting
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oh btw how is this wrong
i think they're more saying
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like as a hypothetical
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they sound like they are saying aeo isnt mafia
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because of the message after that
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she crossed out everyone (aeo and cam)
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leaving us two
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FLOOFconfusion
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then said it isnt possibl
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e
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so who is she saying the mafia group is
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if i cross cam out then im left with zen/aeo, zen/star, aeo/star ~if i cross aeo then it leaves me with zen/star only but no ~zen/aeo is actually a bit weird and i don't rly trust to vote with zen but i also don't wanna cross out aeo cuz zen/star is a no -aeo/star maybe cuz of sure maf read to sure town read on star if i don't cross out cam idk
i think this is more their reads?
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idk afk is a rambler
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lol
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pretty sure they're just tryna look at every mafia team
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AA_Keqing_Think
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and im pretty sure
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that they are sure
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aeo and cam are not magia
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mafia
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and they obviously know they, themselves, are not mafia
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which leaves us two
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noted
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but also that confirms one thing
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they arent mafia because mafia will not put in so much effort to write all that
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-07-03 3:56 a.m.
hi
3:59 a.m.
im sorry ive been on vacation
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 5:55 a.m.
6 pings is scary
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OH DID YOU
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:02 a.m.
yeah in mafia-lobby
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because if you realized, cam hasnt talked at all since this day started
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:03 a.m.
tbf the only reason id say cam is maf is her inactivity after d1 meowdy
6:04 a.m.
^^that was also mentioned during d2
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no voting = lose
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:04 a.m.
true lol
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at this point, we will just have to randomly vote based on majority pepeHmm
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:06 a.m.
but i think we shouldn't randomly vote and discuss on who to vote on cuz we could end up in a tie again and this time we can't change votes anymore
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Zen
afk and cam have masterminded this so hard and it's both of them
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:08 a.m.
devil
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aeo fought with each of us using facts except cam
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:08 a.m.
what facts tho 😭
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i think im dying next lol pepe_popcorn
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:09 a.m.
orrr we get maf out tonight Sip
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orrr we get maf out tonight Sip
i think they meant if we got a maf out today
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cuz like
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if we don't then game ends
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
devil
also cute evil panda
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:10 a.m.
👀
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:11 a.m.
me d1 d2
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so do we all agree on aeo?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:13 a.m.
im fine with that HMMM
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would be easier for mafia to identify whose the other one frogtea
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:13 a.m.
mafia knows who everyone is
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oh btw how is this wrong
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:15 a.m.
oh no i just said that cuz hel and pixel (my d1 d2 sus) were both town and im just saying what if my d3 sus - aeo - was wrong
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maybe 3rd time's the charm? holdingbacktears
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and who are you even doubting
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:15 a.m.
wym
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so who is she saying the mafia group is
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:16 a.m.
idek ;-;
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that they are sure
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:17 a.m.
not rly its just a what-if-i-cross-cam-out situation
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
hi
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:18 a.m.
hihi
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i think they meant if we got a maf out today
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:20 a.m.
oh right mb
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i thought it was a vote maf out and win or vote town out and lose
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 6:27 a.m.
looking back at the time lol that ~9 hours of dead chat
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i was at school tho
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 8:30 a.m.
where are u peopleeeee
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-07-03 10:03 a.m.
hi sorry ive been
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om vacation
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Lol
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also hai cam
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hope ur vacay is going wells
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uhm
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but yeah we needs
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to at least vote today
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before time ends
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@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] @NOT Aeroyi @star y'all existing too?
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well alr then
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we love activity 🔥
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 11:30 a.m.
omg i almost turned off my pc
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um
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u haven't even voted
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Sob
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at least vote before u get off
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 11:31 a.m.
ill just vote aeo
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or is like
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so lost
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welp
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okay
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are u just off after this or?
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-03 11:32 a.m.
at least that was what today's chat has kinda concluded on idk
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gtg
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okayyy
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sleep well
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ill just vote aeo
Thanks for outing yourself
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no way bestie stays quiet in terms of game for like 5 days straight
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and just counter votes
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also damn you really struggle with the commands
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 11:43 a.m.
@NOT Aeroyi you need to fix your vote -- see the channel
11:43 a.m.
as of now, it doesn't count
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laga if they don't come back can we just count it as a vote pls?
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so we at least have some chance if we do end up voting afk
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instead of at best a tie vote
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 11:45 a.m.
idk, i pinged him before when his vote didn't register and he never fixed it zzz
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i mean personally am still not very on board with aeo being any sorta good but if they are then that sucks so much
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ig everyone is busy tho
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besides star
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but they're not here atm
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big sade
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 11:47 a.m.
hopefully aeo comes back and i don't need to make this decision
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hopefully
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 11:55 a.m.
i don't know why aeo is having trouble with the bot, but since it's lylo and so close to EOD, i will count his vote manually
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just everyone else please use the bot
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If there's a tie can we resolve it via duel
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 12:09 p.m.
yes, or if you don't
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then laga flips a coin
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zzzz
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
then laga flips a coin
Lame ending
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Read this for the context
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tbf the only reason id say cam is maf is her inactivity after d1 meowdy
ohh
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺]
orrr we get maf out tonight Sip
we can only get one out
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Zen
@[𝙰𝙵𝙺] @NOT Aeroyi @star y'all existing too?
HERE
12:45 p.m.
oh
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wait who am i voting
12:46 p.m.
lord
12:50 p.m.
but all im seeing here is, aeo only votes for the person who attacks them
12:50 p.m.
pepeHmm
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at least they actually voted ig
12:59 p.m.
but yeah aeo kinda forced the vote
12:59 p.m.
to be them or afk
1:00 p.m.
oh well
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Zen
oh well
who are you voting?
1:04 p.m.
ill vote with you
1:04 p.m.
because idk either
1:04 p.m.
froggiesip
1:08 p.m.
but there is also only 52 minutes left
1:08 p.m.
votes still tied
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oh boi yea
1:26 p.m.
Am like half busy till elim
1:27 p.m.
I'll probs vote aeo on this seeing as literally no new info has come up besides aeo acting even more funky
1:27 p.m.
I'm gonna try to wait in case cam is here last min tho
1:27 p.m.
But like
1:27 p.m.
99% voting aeo
1:31 p.m.
ill too
1:31 p.m.
sorry aeo
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Zen
I'm gonna try to wait in case cam is here last min tho
i am 100% sure she will not be online within the next hour
1:33 p.m.
lagaaa nom
1:33 p.m.
will the night be skipped when all actions are in
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star
i am 100% sure she will not be online within the next hour
Oof
1:36 p.m.
pepeHmm
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Welp not much to do then ig
1:36 p.m.
now
1:36 p.m.
i wonder if its a win for mafia or town
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gg either way
1:37 p.m.
gg
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 1:39 p.m.
EOD
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 1:49 p.m.
Postgame Talk
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 pinned a message to this channel. 2024-07-03 1:50 p.m.
1:50 p.m.
sry
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i feel bad for that ngl
1:50 p.m.
i think u guys should have won
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so i was right since the start
1:50 p.m.
pepeHmm
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 1:50 p.m.
@star was right
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star
so i was right since the start
i mean i never saw u sus us before like d3 but if u were thinking so then gj ye
1:50 p.m.
Start of d2 star stated the mafia team
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oh d2 yeah*
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 1:51 p.m.
Town supported her at first
1:51 p.m.
but toward the end
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they thought i was mafia
1:51 p.m.
pepeHmm
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Danger!? Luka! 2024-07-03 1:51 p.m.
Town never wins a game on discord mafia istg
1:51 p.m.
I will do this once I get to pc
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town should have won sobs
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oh so i was right about tracker too
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cam got too busy
1:52 p.m.
and aeo
1:52 p.m.
uhh
1:52 p.m.
kinda poofed
1:52 p.m.
after that one day
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so idk
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Star deserved way better
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you two and hel knew who tracker was since d1
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i still don't get why aeo made themselves so sus tho
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 1:52 p.m.
i feel like @star solved it, but then town left her mostly alone with only the mafia to talk to 😭
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star
you two and hel knew who tracker was since d1
oh yeah u did reply to that but imma be real i never picked up on it even tho i replied
1:53 p.m.
it was afk who did
1:53 p.m.
lmao
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
i feel like @star solved it, but then town left her mostly alone with only the mafia to talk to 😭
they literally lynched the active ones pepemeltdown
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Danger!? Luka!
I will do this once I get to pc
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 1:53 p.m.
Hi Luka! (edited)
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so was a right read but also wrong kek
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Zen
it was afk who did
thats what i was thinking
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This ended huh
1:53 p.m.
pkf_okden
1:53 p.m.
zenith lost
1:53 p.m.
sad
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the better zen won
1:54 p.m.
jkjk
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no cuz i did a background check on zen too
1:54 p.m.
nom
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star
no cuz i did a background check on zen too
oop what does this even mean
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Zen
oop what does this even mean
sp51 i think
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like read thru my msgs or
1:54 p.m.
ohhh on the
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special game i told u abt
1:54 p.m.
?
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what abt it tho
1:55 p.m.
Confused
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winning as a neutral is not easy
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plus i played with ace before
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yeah but i was lucky
1:55 p.m.
lmao
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i know how he plays
1:55 p.m.
nom
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i'm not that good ass u probs saw this game kek
1:56 p.m.
was just kinda lucky and town and evils self destructed
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Zen
town should have won sobs
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 1:56 p.m.
Zen if mafia chat feeling bad for town This is real 💀
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and i just did clean up
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
Zen if mafia chat feeling bad for town This is real 💀
WELL IT'S TRUE THO
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they had the solution but got ruined to afk and aeo not wanting to engage the game
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Zen
i'm not that good ass u probs saw this game kek
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 1:57 p.m.
i think you got better and better as the game went on
1:57 p.m.
i was alone in this battle
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
i think you got better and better as the game went on
i mean i got less and less busy ig
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star
i was alone in this battle
Mhm
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but i think mostly it was just
1:57 p.m.
aeo making
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silly choices
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to let me do stuff
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star
Click to see attachment 🖼️
AG_Hugs
1:57 p.m.
am sorry star
1:58 p.m.
ur so scrunkly
1:58 p.m.
am sad i was on the enemy team
1:58 p.m.
u deserve so many pats
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i actually trusted zen and afk for a split second cooldudesdontcry
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come be mafia with us instead of dying
1:58 p.m.
uwu
1:59 p.m.
okay welp
1:59 p.m.
i'll try not to leave the server
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but probs won't do another game
2:00 p.m.
until like
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i get the random urge to do another maf game in a year or two
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if i do play another game
2:00 p.m.
please put me with active people
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pepemeltdown
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the inactiveness was not good
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pepemeltdown
2:01 p.m.
it wasn't
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big sade
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sp51 i think
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 2:01 p.m.
oh nice, good job (edited)
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like if me and afk just decided to be silent too for some reason
2:01 p.m.
there would literally
2:01 p.m.
only be
2:02 p.m.
star schizo posting to themselves
2:02 p.m.
😭
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
oh nice, good job (edited)
Skull
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Smh
2:03 p.m.
that happened
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sp51 i think
oh it was sp15
2:04 p.m.
not 51
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sp51 i think
sp51 is still goin on and zen isnt even there unless you're talking about zenith
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tried to find it
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Zen
oh it was sp15
Oh
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
Hi Luka! (edited)
Danger!? Luka! 2024-07-03 2:04 p.m.
Hi Laga!!!
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Free's Main
sp51 is still goin on and zen isnt even there unless you're talking about zenith
yeahh lmao i was confused when i looked up my name and saw it being posted abt recently
2:04 p.m.
i was like
2:05 p.m.
why are people talking abt this game again
2:05 p.m.
but was the new game
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Danger!? Luka!
Hi Laga!!!
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 2:05 p.m.
Maybe dm players are just good at scum?
2:05 p.m.
the one i was in
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
Maybe dm players are just good at scum?
Danger!? Luka! 2024-07-03 2:05 p.m.
I'd argue it's the inverse but possibly
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also apparently there's also been a role with the same name
2:05 p.m.
funky
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Danger!? Luka!
I'd argue it's the inverse but possibly
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 2:05 p.m.
we are bad at town then okay okay
2:06 p.m.
though this game was 100% newcomers
2:06 p.m.
altho
2:06 p.m.
hel, afk, aeo and cam were all def
2:07 p.m.
a bit
2:07 p.m.
higher than newcomer
2:07 p.m.
sob
2:07 p.m.
also star ngl
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 2:07 p.m.
well on this server tho
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 2:07 p.m.
yeah, i think everyone in the game has played other places
2:08 p.m.
but a lot of people are used to role madness type games i think
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Zen
i'll try not to leave the server
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 2:11 p.m.
you don't like you 100% win rate Hehe
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
you don't like you 100% win rate Hehe
Nah I Don't have 100%
2:13 p.m.
It's at 50% iirc?
2:13 p.m.
Idk if the other games I played weren't archived tho
2:13 p.m.
I know for sure I played one
2:13 p.m.
Where I was SK
2:14 p.m.
And eqsy sussed me cuz I was asking for help to understand stuff
2:14 p.m.
Cuz I really needed the help sjdhsg
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And then got voted d1 cuz of it
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Lmao
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This was an experience
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Interesting
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-07-03 2:14 p.m.
LOL gg
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ngl better than previous mafia games I've played on discord
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-07-03 2:15 p.m.
i was too afk but i had the right rwad rip
2:15 p.m.
😭
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So both of my initial TLs were incorrect
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Zenith
So both of my initial TLs were incorrect
U town leaned me?? Sob
2:15 p.m.
Am sorry for getting u killed ngl
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Nah it's alright
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I really wanted to talk with u more
2:15 p.m.
I just wanted to have a vote down d1
2:15 p.m.
And then suddenly two people followed it
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Well we can do that in the next game
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And I was cri
2:16 p.m.
BPTiredofThis
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unless you decide to lynch me again
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Lmao I'll try not to
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-07-03 2:16 p.m.
ggs tho sorry for being useless vacation and life caught up </3
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I kind of had AFK as null later
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-07-03 2:17 p.m.
im mad bc i had the read of them being paired but got too busy nooo
2:17 p.m.
😭
2:17 p.m.
Sob
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
ggs tho sorry for being useless vacation and life caught up </3
Nah it's all good. Vacations are meant to be enjoyed.
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Ur like really good tho cam
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-07-03 2:17 p.m.
LMFAO IM DRF NOT BUT TY
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Shame with the afk but hope ur vacay is wonderful!!
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-07-03 2:18 p.m.
tyty ggs again !
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camryn (✿◠‿◠) 2024-07-03 2:20 p.m.
noooooooo
2:20 p.m.
sobs
2:21 p.m.
this is on me for being afk rip
2:21 p.m.
😭
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Nah you did good.
2:21 p.m.
Evidently better than the rest of us.
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also can i say tho
2:22 p.m.
why did no one vote the day before
2:22 p.m.
i could have just ended the game right there by last min voting
2:22 p.m.
i just didn't cuz it'd be cheap
2:22 p.m.
but like
2:23 p.m.
damn
2:23 p.m.
😭
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 2:23 p.m.
It's true, mafia could have won d3 by voting in the last few seconds (edited)
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Zen
oh it was sp15
oh
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
yeah, i think everyone in the game has played other places
ive only played the ones with the more info roles froggiesip
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omg messenger moment???
2:32 p.m.
Messenger is my signature 8er setup Being the only decent setup I designed myself!
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ive only played the ones with the more info roles froggiesip
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 2:33 p.m.
yeah, but you seem to be p good at reading people it takes practice but you did good for you first time without all those roles
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Zen
why did no one vote the day before
i was going to
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I wish I could read new players like I could before
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
yeah, but you seem to be p good at reading people it takes practice but you did good for you first time without all those roles
im not amazing at reading people, considering my win rate in the other server froggiesip but tysm! froggieheart
2:35 p.m.
wait now im confused
2:35 p.m.
who was rolecop?
2:35 p.m.
nom
2:36 p.m.
being honest, i thought afk was mafia because of the time the actions were submitted too
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who was rolecop?
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 2:54 p.m.
zen was mafia role cop
2:54 p.m.
oh i'll post a spreadsheet of everything
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 3:01 p.m.
I screenshot the game spreadsheet with everyone's role and actions and put it in info
3:01 p.m.
tysm froggieheart
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 3:01 p.m.
two honorable mentions Helvaria -- for saving ace n1
3:01 p.m.
Ace- was tracking AFK the night died
3:02 p.m.
shouldve tracked afk n2
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 3:03 p.m.
true!
3:03 p.m.
well whatever nom
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 3:04 p.m.
also, helvaria being outed was a turning point for town
3:05 p.m.
i realize ace thought that hel might be the mafia rolecop
3:05 p.m.
was why
3:05 p.m.
but to mafia
3:05 p.m.
they ofc knew hel was the doc
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Seems like it
3:08 p.m.
i kind of wanted an action
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Join a sp game next
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if we were fr though, i would’ve gotten lynched way earlier
3:08 p.m.
froggiesip
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Zenith
Join a sp game next
i joined one as my first game
3:09 p.m.
it didnt go well
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It is basically too many roles in a game.
3:09 p.m.
Chaos But people enjoy that too
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the last one i joined
3:10 p.m.
i didnt know mafia team only had 4
3:11 p.m.
froggiesip
3:11 p.m.
the neutral on our team got me outted
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How many people were there?
3:11 p.m.
wait in the game?
3:12 p.m.
20 players setup
3:12 p.m.
I think it's the same for all sp games
3:13 p.m.
yeah i think so
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i didnt know mafia team only had 4
One of them must have been the recruit
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The addition of jackal makes you question people on your own side.
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Who were mafia mentors
3:14 p.m.
Kiri and who else
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they outted me because i had an ability that survives a lynch, but left the wrong mafia alive catto_ohmy
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they outted me because i had an ability that survives a lynch, but left the wrong mafia alive catto_ohmy
poliwhirl_eyes_reverse
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You were Jackal
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Free's Main
poliwhirl_eyes_reverse
wasnt me fault froggiesip
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Zenith
You were Jackal
sp games have different setups e
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i didnt know froggiesip
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wasnt me fault froggiesip
I srsly dk why did I even trust cheetah's claim even tho it made zero sense(well it did make sense for me since they explained bout their accompanying ability but it was after I explicitly asked) (edited)
3:15 p.m.
AA_Paimon_Happy
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I srsly dk why did I even trust cheetah's claim even tho it made zero sense(well it did make sense for me since they explained bout their accompanying ability but it was after I explicitly asked) (edited)
catto_ohmy
3:16 p.m.
i was ordered to sound sus
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and guess what it was completely made upsed
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Free's Main
and guess what it was completely made upsed
catto_ohmy
3:20 p.m.
i straight up went, IM MAFIA
3:20 p.m.
and everyone believed me
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Who were mafia mentors
Days w/o misreading Kaz: 0 2024-07-03 3:25 p.m.
Me
3:25 p.m.
Afk did really well on their own though
3:25 p.m.
Personal mvp
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What about zenew
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Days w/o misreading Kaz: 0 2024-07-03 3:26 p.m.
Idk who her mentor was
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Days w/o misreading Kaz: 0
Afk did really well on their own though
Days w/o misreading Kaz: 0 2024-07-03 3:27 p.m.
Oh I mean like without my help 😭
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Days w/o misreading Kaz: 0 2024-07-03 3:27 p.m.
Zen also played really well
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ig everyone had a mentor?
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i joined one as my first game
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 3:28 p.m.
sometimes there are games in the main queue that have more pr's (special roles) the newcomer games usually only have 2 -3 out ot 9 players
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ig everyone had a mentor?
Everyone was given an option I think
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
sometimes there are games in the main queue that have more pr's (special roles) the newcomer games usually only have 2 -3 out ot 9 players
ohh
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Zenith
Everyone was given an option I think
i know
3:30 p.m.
i didnt ask for one though nom
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but still
3:30 p.m.
tysm laga for the help
3:30 p.m.
froggieheart
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ig everyone had a mentor?
I wish i couldve mentor you
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Thanks Laga for hosting this
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Ngekop
I wish i couldve mentor you
oh catsit
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Zenith
Thanks Laga for hosting this
this too
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ohh
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 3:31 p.m.
in the main queue (ma) the games are ususally pretty balanced sp queue games can be really chaotic and crazy (not all of them but like they are less standard than main games) then ne is usually 9 player games with like i said just a few prs (plus you can have a mentor and more help from the host)
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Thanks Laga for hosting this
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 3:32 p.m.
You're welcome! I enjoy hosting (edited)
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That's great. It seems like a lot of work.
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 4:41 p.m.
it kinda is a lot of word
4:41 p.m.
k
4:41 p.m.
so i try to space out how often i do it
4:49 p.m.
truth was i knew town wasnt going to win
4:49 p.m.
pepe_popcorn
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Days w/o misreading Kaz: 0 2024-07-03 5:38 p.m.
You lost when both prs were outed D2 imo
5:57 p.m.
but also because of the info
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 6:16 p.m.
town could have still won
6:17 p.m.
like after that
6:17 p.m.
star said the team
6:17 p.m.
cam and aeo seemed to agree
6:17 p.m.
i think ace too
6:17 p.m.
but town didn't work together after that
6:17 p.m.
you don't need prs to win
6:17 p.m.
at that point they were confirmed town that mafia would night kill (edited)
6:17 p.m.
but you knew not to lynch them
6:18 p.m.
so it made towns job easier
6:18 p.m.
ace for sure sussed the actual team
6:18 p.m.
they had their track on zen and then switched to afk (edited)
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
at that point they were confirmed town that mafia would night kill (edited)
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 6:19 p.m.
but mafia was gonna night kill someone anyway
6:20 p.m.
so it was still winnable by town
6:21 p.m.
mid d2 i even thought town would fs win
6:21 p.m.
but town fell off and mafia kept doing their stuff
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look at how they massacred my boy
7:15 p.m.
i should have helped this game dammit
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star asking for the wording of host communication was the reason why I townread her
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NOT Aeroyi
star asking for the wording of host communication was the reason why I townread her
oh
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
but town didn't work together after that
they all went their own way
9:58 p.m.
Sticker
9:59 p.m.
i actually believed them when they said the goon wouldn’t show up in kills
9:59 p.m.
but i was lied to catto_ohmy
9:59 p.m.
both mafias would’ve shown up in track
10:00 p.m.
and that goon does the killing while rolecop does the tracking
10:04 p.m.
also, because only the mafias were more active, i got confused
10:04 p.m.
also with aeo typing random stuff, it made it even more confusing pepe_cry
10:06 p.m.
i mean at least i didnt get lynched, even though i was sussed for 2 days straight nom
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i mean at least i didnt get lynched, even though i was sussed for 2 days straight nom
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-03 10:14 p.m.
Yes! That’s an important skill too. To learn how to make it obvious you are town when you are
10:15 p.m.
And the other stuff, well maf can work all kinds of ways
10:15 p.m.
and it makes the game fun to slowly figure out possibilities and can alway learn
10:15 p.m.
new things (edited)
10:32 p.m.
Froggie_Yes
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also with aeo typing random stuff, it made it even more confusing pepe_cry
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
i feel like @star solved it, but then town left her mostly alone with only the mafia to talk to 😭
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:18 a.m.
fr that's so sad
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Zen
oh yeah u did reply to that but imma be real i never picked up on it even tho i replied
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:19 a.m.
bro it was so obvious 😭
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star
they literally lynched the active ones pepemeltdown
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:19 a.m.
zenith was active rip but pixel wasn't active
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
Zen if mafia chat feeling bad for town This is real 💀
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:20 a.m.
they literally got us but we just got lucky cam and aeo went afk sjdsfjkh
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star
i actually trusted zen and afk for a split second cooldudesdontcry
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:22 a.m.
i mean we didn't leave u all alone tho ;-;
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Zen
but probs won't do another game
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:22 a.m.
same ngl
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
Maybe dm players are just good at scum?
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:22 a.m.
whats dm players
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Zen
hel, afk, aeo and cam were all def
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:22 a.m.
im new tho 😭
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camryn (✿◠‿◠)
i was too afk but i had the right rwad rip
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:23 a.m.
yeahhh
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:25 a.m.
would still be better if ace didn't out themselves d1 aaaaaaa
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whats dm players
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-04 7:25 a.m.
dm = discord mafia, as in us!
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:25 a.m.
rolecop was no use rip
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:25 a.m.
me too, games are more fun with action
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:26 a.m.
tyyy meowdy
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:26 a.m.
mini maid
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would still be better if ace didn't out themselves d1 aaaaaaa
Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃 2024-07-04 7:26 a.m.
although, it mean helvaria knew who to protect and so you had no night 1 kill and if hel's role had stayed secret then could have kept protecting ace night after night...
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
dm = discord mafia, as in us!
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:27 a.m.
ohhh
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Lagavulin is sometimes a tree 🍃
although, it mean helvaria knew who to protect and so you had no night 1 kill and if hel's role had stayed secret then could have kept protecting ace night after night...
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:27 a.m.
i meant ace not outting tracker (edited)
7:28 a.m.
ace could've tracked one of us too
7:28 a.m.
and it would be easy asf to win for town
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also, because only the mafias were more active, i got confused
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:32 a.m.
yeah it was totally weird that the only ones talking in chat were 2 mafs and you
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both mafias would’ve shown up in track
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:33 a.m.
both mafias can kill and only the mafia that performs the action will get tracked
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 7:35 a.m.
actually felt like u were maf team's member lmao
7:36 a.m.
it was nice having another person to talk to
7:36 a.m.
when i was bored asf
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Afk responding to msgs like we're still in the game
9:44 a.m.
Or do u just normally do that lmao
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Zen
Or do u just normally do that lmao
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 9:46 a.m.
yeah kind of 💀
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yeah kind of 💀
Cute
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 9:46 a.m.
i didn't mean to send so many msges 😭
9:46 a.m.
but like-
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Hello mafia team, congrats on the win.
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 9:47 a.m.
when i scrolled back down i realised there's already a lot
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but like-
Bestie doesn't wanna get prodded
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Helvaria
Hello mafia team, congrats on the win.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 9:47 a.m.
hi hel meowdy
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If I was alive, I probably would've mislynched too.
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Helvaria
Hello mafia team, congrats on the win.
Hoi
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Helvaria
If I was alive, I probably would've mislynched too.
Pat pat
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It felt like town kind of gave up at d3+.
9:47 a.m.
Was a shane
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Helvaria
If I was alive, I probably would've mislynched too.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 9:47 a.m.
this is why i said we should've kept doc alive FacepalmLmao
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But oh well
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Helvaria
It felt like town kind of gave up at d3+.
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 9:47 a.m.
yeah
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this is why i said we should've kept doc alive FacepalmLmao
Yeah but then ace tracks go btrr
9:48 a.m.
So like
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Zen
Yeah but then ace tracks go btrr
[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 9:48 a.m.
rip
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The mafia team were the most active members of town
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[𝙰𝙵𝙺] 2024-07-04 9:48 a.m.
i wanted to go afk toooo
9:49 a.m.
anyways i learnt smth from this game
9:49 a.m.
reads are uselessss
9:56 a.m.
Real
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both mafias can kill and only the mafia that performs the action will get tracked
oh
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oh
Yeah that's why aeo's hypothetical track clear was very bs too
2:08 p.m.
Cuz even if they were goon they could just not have done the kill
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